Natalee Case Discussion #728 2/10 - 2/11/08

[Anna]

you know what i think is strange too?
i the very beginning, a friend of joran said a cellphone from him was stolen.
since then i never read anywhere if they investigated that (i may have overlooked this) but even if the phone was stolen, they could still ask the provider for info and details.

And in his PV he said he told Freddie about it being stolen but didn't report to the phone company.

'Then Joran telling Freddie the HI and Fisherman hut stories.

What is Freddie?  The designated witness maybe?

[klaasend]

you know what i think is strange too?
i the very beginning, a friend of joran said a cellphone from him was stolen.
since then i never read anywhere if they investigated that (i may have overlooked this) but even if the phone was stolen, they could still ask the provider for info and details.

Strange indeed.  Joran's friend Sander Gottenbos gave a statement to ALE.  Sander claims his cell phone was lost/stolen at school on 5/30/05.

[caesu]

just something for entertainment

Laten we geen oude koeien uit de Sloot halen

"Let us not pull an old cow out of the ditch"

this is a saying meaning:

"Let us not start talking about bad stories from the past"

this saying effectively encourages cover-ups

it is used for example at a birthday party when someone brings up a earlier disagreement or a fight.
as in: shut up, we are having fun now.

http://www.onzetaal.nl/advies/oudekoeien.php

Well, I guess they can try!   


But we won't go away or stop talking about the cow.   


 

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maybe it shows a bit about dutch mentality that we even have this saying.
leaving a cow to die in a ditch for the reason that it is old is a cruel thing to do.

but there are also sayings discouraging cover-ups, but i can't think of one right from my head 

[Nut44x4]

you know what i think is strange too?
i the very beginning, a friend of joran said a cellphone from him was stolen.
since then i never read anywhere if they investigated that (i may have overlooked this) but even if the phone was stolen, they could still ask the provider for info and details.

Correct....that would be Sander Gottenbo's phone.

[vms]

Debra Who is this in the pic? This is the same pic that I asked about not to long ago...

I don't know about the one on the left but Pearl at BFN found a photo album I believe it was at Webshots.  The one on the right was in it and was apparently with a group of tourists including a large number of girls. 

Name may have been "tony" or something like that.

Someone else will recall this far better than I.  Anyway, he does not seem to be involved in anything other than his group.

The one on the left looks mean to me.

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The one on the left is Mark Purcell Jr.

Since he's the topic for the moment, just found this interesting.


Christian Porn God's Interests  
General Love to bartend espeically love the bar-tending to me and my drunken needs. I live on an island so swimming is an everyday event. I like to chill on the beach in the middle of the night (it's just not so hot when the sun is gone). I also enjoy not being able to speak any other language besides english (the Queens language). In that manor I am your typical american who is perfectly comfortable letting others cater to my needs!!! I also love to raise a rukus but there is no one on this island who will get immature from time to time, just to f*ck sh*t up old school style with. Damn I miss being in high school and not caring about the world around me.

Myspace Link

His profile pic still ticks me off. 
 

[hotping]

Debra Who is this in the pic? This is the same pic that I asked about not to long ago...

I don't know about the one on the left but Pearl at BFN found a photo album I believe it was at Webshots.  The one on the right was in it and was apparently with a group of tourists including a large number of girls. 

Name may have been "tony" or something like that.

Someone else will recall this far better than I.  Anyway, he does not seem to be involved in anything other than his group.

The one on the left looks mean to me.

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The one on the left is Mark Purcell Jr.

Thanks Pita! The so called married gay guy...well that's what one of His friends called Him on His MYspace!

[Nut44x4]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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ENTER BY FEBRUARY 15, 2008
Enter now for an escape to Aruba.  Grand Prize: A 5-day/4-night trip for four (4) to the Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino in Palm Beach, Aruba, consisting of round-trip coach air transportation from major airport near winner's residence in the U.S., Plaza Club ocean view double occupancy accommodations (two rooms/ 2 people per room), three (3) spa treatments for winner and each guest during the trip.

http://www.spaflyer.com/2008/02/spaflyer-saturd.html

[Anna]

Debra Who is this in the pic? This is the same pic that I asked about not to long ago...

I don't know about the one on the left but Pearl at BFN found a photo album I believe it was at Webshots.  The one on the right was in it and was apparently with a group of tourists including a large number of girls. 

Name may have been "tony" or something like that.

Someone else will recall this far better than I.  Anyway, he does not seem to be involved in anything other than his group.

The one on the left looks mean to me.

.

The one on the left is Mark Purcell Jr.

 


Thank you, pita.  I didn't know that.  Is this the one who was arrested for Ecstasy and his mother had some excuse that he needed it for medical or some such reason?  Bartender at Moomba Bar very close to C&C?

[Pita]

Debra Who is this in the pic? This is the same pic that I asked about not to long ago...

I don't know about the one on the left but Pearl at BFN found a photo album I believe it was at Webshots.  The one on the right was in it and was apparently with a group of tourists including a large number of girls. 

Name may have been "tony" or something like that.

Someone else will recall this far better than I.  Anyway, he does not seem to be involved in anything other than his group.

The one on the left looks mean to me.

.

The one on the left is Mark Purcell Jr.

Since he's the topic for the moment, just found this interesting.


Christian Porn God's Interests  
General Love to bartend espeically love the bar-tending to me and my drunken needs. I live on an island so swimming is an everyday event. I like to chill on the beach in the middle of the night (it's just not so hot when the sun is gone). I also enjoy not being able to speak any other language besides english (the Queens language). In that manor I am your typical american who is perfectly comfortable letting others cater to my needs!!! I also love to raise a rukus but there is no one on this island who will get immature from time to time, just to f*ck sh*t up old school style with. Damn I miss being in high school and not caring about the world around me.

Myspace Link

His profile pic still ticks me off. 
 

Yes this pic of his says it all....

[Destiny]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

LIFETIME'S GET OUT OF THE COLD SWEEPSTAKES
ENTER BY FEBRUARY 15, 2008
Enter now for an escape to Aruba.  Grand Prize: A 5-day/4-night trip for four (4) to the Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino in Palm Beach, Aruba, consisting of round-trip coach air transportation from major airport near winner's residence in the U.S., Plaza Club ocean view double occupancy accommodations (two rooms/ 2 people per room), three (3) spa treatments for winner and each guest during the trip.

http://www.spaflyer.com/2008/02/spaflyer-saturd.html

Well...with no tourists coming...they have to get people to rob/rape/kill there someway......

I'm going back to my corner with face to wall

[Anna]

vms,

I wonder if it is true he sells T shirts with that on them?  I have never seen something like that about a victim before either.  What kind of person would even think something like that!

Well, obviously this person.  And Joran.

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[Pita]

Debra Who is this in the pic? This is the same pic that I asked about not to long ago...

I don't know about the one on the left but Pearl at BFN found a photo album I believe it was at Webshots.  The one on the right was in it and was apparently with a group of tourists including a large number of girls. 

Name may have been "tony" or something like that.

Someone else will recall this far better than I.  Anyway, he does not seem to be involved in anything other than his group.

The one on the left looks mean to me.

.

The one on the left is Mark Purcell Jr.

 


Thank you, pita.  I didn't know that.  Is this the one who was arrested for Ecstasy and his mother had some excuse that he needed it for medical or some such reason?  Bartender at Moomba Bar very close to C&C?

I know he bartends at Moomba's but I don't know anything about an arrest.  Moomba is on the beach next to the Holiday Inn.  It's a bit of a distance from CnC's.

[Rob]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

LIFETIME'S GET OUT OF THE COLD SWEEPSTAKES
ENTER BY FEBRUARY 15, 2008
Enter now for an containment to Aruba.  Grand Prize: A 5-day/4-night trip for four (4) to the Montanja19 Rape Shack & Casino in Palm Beach, Aruba, consisting of one way baggage compartment air transportation from minor airport near loser's residence in the U.S., Plaza Ocean Grave view double casket accommodations (two rooms/ 2 corpses per room), three (3) autopsy treatments for loser and each corpse during the containment.

http://www.spaflyer.com/2008/02/spaflyer-saturd.html

That's how it should read.

[vms]

vms,

I wonder if it is true he sells T shirts with that on them?  I have never seen something like that about a victim before either.  What kind of person would even think something like that!

Well, obviously this person.  And Joran.

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I agree. It is unbelievable that someone would even think of something like that. I will never understand it.

[Destiny]

ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

LIFETIME'S GET OUT OF THE COLD SWEEPSTAKES
ENTER BY FEBRUARY 15, 2008
Enter now for an containment to Aruba.  Grand Prize: A 5-day/4-night trip for four (4) to the Montanja19 Rape Shack & Casino in Palm Beach, Aruba, consisting of one way baggage compartment air transportation from minor airport near loser's residence in the U.S., Plaza Ocean Grave view double casket accommodations (two rooms/ 2 corpses per room), three (3) autopsy treatments for loser and each corpse during the containment.

http://www.spaflyer.com/2008/02/spaflyer-saturd.html

That's how it should read.

Yep!

[Anna]

Oh, so it has to be true he sells that on T shirts because it has the sizing information on the sides of the hateful design!!!

[klaasend]

Oh, so it has to be true he sells that on T shirts because it has the sizing information on the sides of the hateful design!!!

Anna - I'm no fan of MPjr but I believe that image that he has on his Myspace originated from one of the old Dutch satire sites.  The same site that had that photo of Joran in a jeep with bones on the ground...remember that one? 

I'll try to find a link to the site.

[hotping]

vms,

I wonder if it is true he sells T shirts with that on them?  I have never seen something like that about a victim before either.  What kind of person would even think something like that!

Well, obviously this person.  And Joran.

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Look right under the screenprint it says click here to order....

[Destiny]

Oh, so it has to be true he sells that on T shirts because it has the sizing information on the sides of the hateful design!!!

Anna...there was a pic of Urine wearing that shirt posted here a few days back...I don't know if it is real or photoshopped

[vms]

Oh, so it has to be true he sells that on T shirts because it has the sizing information on the sides of the hateful design!!!

I think it may be that he took the pic from tshirthell.com because he liked it.