Natalee Case Discussion #728 2/10 - 2/11/08

[Dayhiker]

Peter DeVries and Mark Furman both predict Joran will go to trial.

Ahhhhhhhh...would that be a closed door hearing with a single judge?

If it's Rick Smid again we'll KNOW they're corrupt.

[JuJu]

Does anyone have a link so I can watch the interview from tonight?  TIA

[Observer]

Furman was awesome! Says that people are being too reserved in not wanting to call out Papa Van Der Satan. Says that Joran called someone who was not his peer, and could only be a family member.

Geraldo, Beth and Furman did do a great job of transferring Daury over to Paulus. Joran's own words were more parental sounding than some friend he would call in the wee hours of the morning. Agree, Furman was super Bladerunner.

So who did Paulus call with a boat? Lorenzo? Koen? Croes?

Yup,I think he was talking about two people..Daddy and ? One of the above..Don't think it was Croes though..I think LVR plays a part just not sure what yet. I wonder who owns the boat Pair of dice?
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April 17, 2006

"The former lead investigater in the case(DOMPIG) said his son worked for a watersports company and overheard a group of people tell a story about someone using a boat to get rid of Natalee's body"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UKeEDXG3K7w
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From Dave's book, pgs. 118-119...

He (Michael Dompig) then started talking about the case, and during this conversation he mentioned that he had heard that Paulus van der Sloot had borrowed a friend's boat on either the night of Natalee's disappearance or the next day and that he was allegedly involved with Natalee's murder. That brought to mind one of Joran's statements. Apparently, this friend's father owned a boat. The message was that this boat was used to take Natalee out to sea. Another boat that was also mentioned by him was the Pair A Dice, which is a local boat from Aruba.

[klaasend]

Does anyone have a link so I can watch the interview from tonight?  TIA

I'm sure Carpe will have it in youtube shortly.  When he does I'll post the link.

[Destiny]

Klaas, can we start a poll?

Is Joran getting arrested?

Yes

or

No

Or...commit Suicide...

[AZSunny]

I love the new confident moxie of Beth...yep she will name names!    She is ready to take them all on and to hell with being politicallly correct...I love it!!

I laughed at Geraldo saying at least twice to Peter that 'professional to professional'...I think he is trying to put himself into the international scene of sloving cases.  I think he said to Beth 2 yrs. and 9 months ago....that he willl be with her everyday to the solving of this case.  Well, Hi Geraldo...you back now?  Did you see Beth lower her eyes when he said that!   

[Dayhiker]

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/article2040821.ece

Through translator:

zondag 10 februari 2008

"We try to live as simply as possible '
By PETER DE KNEGT

ORANJESTAD - The parents of Joran van der Sloot like to pick up the thread again. It says the mother, Anita van der Sloot, against the AD. ,, We try life as good and as bad as it is just as possible to tackle. We have more children, you know,''
 


Paul and Anita van der Sloot, the parents of Joran.

Anita van der Sloot looks excited. When pruning in the garden pulls them out to the media last week amply paid attention to the broadcast of Peter R. De Vries. They told their son under the eye of hidden cameras what almost three years ago with the missing American girl Natalee Holloway on the beach of Aruba would have happened.

,, The media distort the facts and only one side of the story ever told. It is better not to say too much. Everything is still against our intentions explained,''says the mother of Joran.
Anita van der Sloot naročil the broadcast of De Vries which told her son that his father illegally a mobile phone in the cell had smuggled, as "terrible". She is sorry that she, her husband and Joran in the talk of Pauw and Witteman have taken their seats. ,, That was very stupid. That we must not do.''
After the broadcast Joran threw a glass of red wine in the face of Peter R. De Vries. Pictures of this were soon out.

and then she starts talking anyway.
therefore: lie

LOL Caesu! Reminds me of an old Bugs Bunny line. "Eeeh, shut up shuttin' up!"

[klaasend]

POLL AT THE TOP OF THE THREAD 

[texasmom]

The 48 Hours Hard Evidence Natalee Holloway "New Clues" is on Direct Tv Channel 285 (ID) at 9pm in my viewing area. 

If this has already been posted, please delete this post Klaas.  TIA

[Dayhiker]

I love the new confident moxie of Beth...yep she will name names!    She is ready to take them all on and to hell with being politicallly correct...I love it!!

I laughed at Geraldo saying at least twice to Peter that 'professional to professional'...I think he is trying to put himself into the international scene of sloving cases.  I think he said to Beth 2 yrs. and 9 months ago....that he willl be with her everyday to the solving of this case.  Well, Hi Geraldo...you back now?  Did you see Beth lower her eyes when he said that!   

She is letting it out a little at a time. A slice of the scalpel here, another slice there. Love it!

[Observer]

I love the new confident moxie of Beth...yep she will name names!    She is ready to take them all on and to hell with being politicallly correct...I love it!!

I laughed at Geraldo saying at least twice to Peter that 'professional to professional'...I think he is trying to put himself into the international scene of sloving cases.  I think he said to Beth 2 yrs. and 9 months ago....that he willl be with her everyday to the solving of this case.  Well, Hi Geraldo...you back now?  Did you see Beth lower her eyes when he said that!   

Bwahaha!!!!!! He has a long way to go after jumping all over the Natalee killed herself with cocaine bs!!!!! With his credibal high ranking Aruban source. Geraldo is a fool and nowhere near the league that Peter is in..He's looking for a big break to revive his career and he see's that in Natalee's case.

[klaasend]

The 48 Hours Hard Evidence Natalee Holloway "New Clues" is on Direct Tv Channel 285 (ID) at 9pm in my viewing area. 

If this has already been posted, please delete this post Klaas.  TIA

Thanks texasmom!  I'm not going to be able to watch.  Let me/us know if it's new or a repeat.  I suspect it's a repeat from 2006.

[Bladerunner]

Joran to Daury: I cant go to the police, so Daury says: Ill help you but you must go to school tomorrow, you must do normal things

Sorry Kermit, but if I may...

joran to daddy:  I can't go to the police, so daddy says:  I'll help you but you must go to school tomorrow, you must do normal things.

Yep.

He has been covering for the father - Kermit said it from the beginning.

J: "not my parents"

[Kermit]

Alpharetta PI tries hand in Aruba case
Holloway disappearance close to solution, he claims
By JEFFRY SCOTT
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/01/05
He believes the younger Van Der Sloot panicked and called his father, who either gave him advice or helped dispose of Holloway's body.
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stori...05/01aruba.html


PAULUS AND JORAN DID IT

* Paulus was in the casino talking to Natalee

* Paulus had TWO CONTACTS with Natalee the night she went missing



NATALEE WAS NOT KILLED AT THE BEACH

Geraldo: Did he make any admissions to your undercover?

DW: Well, he made an interesting admission that we haven’t heard before. He said after they left C&C, they didn’t go straight to the beach, they went to his home. The Kalpoe brothers waited outside and he and Natalee went inside for a while
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/10/03/joran-van-der-sloot-they-went-to-his-home-and-the


Kristina said: “They went to his home for a while and then to the Holiday Inn, where she was staying.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63326



its new...notice the shine, many finishes fade early in that much sun....thinking it belongs to Lorenzo? It's white so it's definitely a black guy. So has anyone looked at the posted friends of deepak on his site...is he trying to tell us anything there? does shitish have a cell? maybe satish took the car home with his brotgher's cell while deepak and Jurine gang raped Natalee at Jurine's apartmet. She could have tried running out, but at 5'4 she's gonna struggle to about the gate where Jurines longer stride would let him catch her as she's getting over the fence, and then she falls to hit her head on the other side...they drop her near the hotel, but she is not dead, however she is in severe pain and is found, but kept away from many in this investigation, to bring out evidence about all the suspects....

Nope...sorry i wasted the space on that one.......she is dead and disposed of well enough for jurine to be confident in it....

we should go shark fishing and look for bones......put a cow(Jurine's mom, Anita ) in the water to bring them in, and then toss in a stick of dynamite 100' away to knock them all out ....they float up and we cut them open and sort natalee's bones from Jurine's moms, i.e. the cow.
Posted by: three inch rope | July 16, 2005 07:07 PM




HIS FATHER IS WHO HELPED HIM GET RID OF NATALEE'S BODY AFTER HE WENT ONLINE AND CHECKED DRUGS/ALCHOL

VAN DER EEM: Did you try to resuscitate her?

VAN DER SLOOT: Of course! I tried everything, man. I tried to shake her. I was shaking the (Bitch). I was, like, What`s wrong with you, man? I almost wanted to cry. What (DELETED) happening?

I said to him, This is impossible. He took the boat. He went far out, and he threw her over the side. Then he came back and he docked his boat there. And he came by my house for a bit.



new girl Says:
June 29th, 2005 at 12:23 am
I also think it is POSSIBLE that there was a setup of sorts and Lorenzo actually left his house to meet up with Joran at the beach somewhere, hence the lack of witnesses to whatever happened to Natalee.
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b]DOMPIG[/b]

   Rita: Did any of these three ever admit to having sex with Natalee at any point chief?

    Dompig: No, they did not. They keep denying it, they only went as far as to say that they fondled sexually, at least Joran did that. The others denied everything.

    Rita: We have heard from the family chief that Joran stated that she was going in and out of consciousness, did you see that anywhere?

    Dompig: Yes, that is definitely in the statements. That is why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn’t accept that. That is basically a felony in Aruba.
http://rjames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6


Deputy Police Commissioner, Gerold Dompig, told The Associated Press that one of three young men arrested in the case ADMITTED "SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene. Prosecutors refused to comment on Dompig's statement, and DOMPIG HIMSELF REFUSED TO IDENTIFY WHICH OF THE THREE YOUNG MEN WHO TOOK HOLLOWAY TO THE NORTHERN BEACH THE NIGHT SHE WENT MISSING MADE THE STATEMENT



How would it look for Aruba Tourism to have a Judge and his son involved in drugging and raping an American 18 year old kid.

cover-up started the night they took Natalee
Paulus online looking up: attorney
Paulus meeting with Kalpoes around the pool Monday
Paulus told them what to do
Paulus was called by his "best friend" Jan van der Straten, bring the boy in for questioning. PAPA got Joran made a WITNESS - not suspect.
Paulus hired attorney's for Kalpoe brothers
Paulus was friends with the prosecutor Karin Janssen who botched the case, she left for Holland on vacation and Paulus went to clean out his desk, statements go missing.
Paulus and Arlene Ellis-Schipper worked together. She is on the board at CMB bank. The bank made two trips to. The bank that is next door to the Charles Croes owned company, Digicel
Paulus van der Sloot - failed becoming a judge, but did contracts.


the list goes on and on

[Rob]

From Dave's book, pgs. 118-119...

He (Michael Dompig) then started talking about the case, and during this conversation he mentioned that he had heard that Paulus van der Sloot had borrowed a friend's boat on either the night of Natalee's disappearance or the next day and that he was allegedly involved with Natalee's murder. That brought to mind one of Joran's statements. Apparently, this friend's father owned a boat. The message was that this boat was used to take Natalee out to sea. Another boat that was also mentioned by him was the Pair A Dice, which is a local boat from Aruba.

Michael Dompig never refuted that statement.

[private eye]

PI,

July 06, 2005 at 12:50 AM

I just thought we needed to clarify that and also that Paul and Beth currently have different feelings towards Aruba.

[Dayhiker]

Anita van der Sloot naročil the broadcast of De Vries which told her son that his father illegally a mobile phone in the cell had smuggled, as "terrible". She is sorry that she, her husband and Joran in the talk of Pauw and Witteman have taken their seats. ,, That was very stupid. That we must not do.''

Here's another interesting line from her interview, Caesu. Anita says they shouldn't have gone on the Pauw & Witteman show.

Didn't Joran tell Patrick they went on that show because Paulus said it would help them get money from the government?

[private eye]

PI,

July 06, 2005 at 12:50 AM

I just thought we needed to clarify that and also that Paul and Beth currently have different feelings towards Aruba.

Ooopsssssssssss, excuse me, THANK YOU:::))))))))

[Rob]

I love the new confident moxie of Beth...yep she will name names!    She is ready to take them all on and to hell with being politicallly correct...I love it!!

I laughed at Geraldo saying at least twice to Peter that 'professional to professional'...I think he is trying to put himself into the international scene of sloving cases.  I think he said to Beth 2 yrs. and 9 months ago....that he willl be with her everyday to the solving of this case.  Well, Hi Geraldo...you back now?  Did you see Beth lower her eyes when he said that!   

yeah, I loved the 'rip his face off' comment.

[Bladerunner]

I love the new confident moxie of Beth...yep she will name names!    She is ready to take them all on and to hell with being politicallly correct...I love it!!

I laughed at Geraldo saying at least twice to Peter that 'professional to professional'...I think he is trying to put himself into the international scene of sloving cases.  I think he said to Beth 2 yrs. and 9 months ago....that he willl be with her everyday to the solving of this case.  Well, Hi Geraldo...you back now?  Did you see Beth lower her eyes when he said that!   

Bwahaha!!!!!! He has a long way to go after jumping all over the Natalee killed herself with cocaine bs!!!!! With his credibal high ranking Aruban source. Geraldo is a fool and nowhere near the league that Peter is in..He's looking for a big break to revive his career and he see's that in Natalee's case.

That hand kiss at the end was just plain corny.