Natalee Case Discussion #728 2/10 - 2/11/08

[klaasend]

June 2005



April 2007

[Destiny]

The following three images are from a 'suicide'. I understand the scene was particularly grisly. The deceased man was a migrant construction worker. There was a dead body here. Note the attire.







The white funeral van is own by Ad Patres Funeral Home. Their website now appears to be closed.

Rob...this appears to be a different location than the previous photos posted in this thread...and, why would VDS and Karen be present at a migrant workers' *suicide* ?

[Anna]

Bonde is Karin Janssen standing next to Van der Straaten.  The rest are ALE forensic and maybe some FBI...not sure.

I thought in the original search of Joran's shed, the FBI had to stay outside the fence and could only look from afar.

Just from my memory.  I do also recall they were only there a very few hours, maybe 4-6 and it was all over. 

Biohazard suits. Yet they were not there long enough to do any detailed forensics.  Was it for show or what?

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[Rob]

Rob...this appears to be a different location than the previous photos posted in this thread...and, why would VDS and Karen be present at a migrant workers' *suicide* ?

Destiny, it is a different location and those pictures are from 07.

I was just showing the attire used at the scene of a dead body.

[Anna]

Klaas,

I thought those photos were of the KLPD in 2007, especially the guy with the measuring tape.  Wasn't that the Dutch search and not the original ALE one/

[klaasend]

Destiny - the suicide photos were simply for reference showing the attire, it has nothing to do with the NH case.

[klaasend]

Klaas,

I thought those photos were of the KLPD in 2007, especially the guy with the measuring tape.  Wasn't that the Dutch search and not the original ALE one/

June 2005 is the original ALE.  April 2007 is KLPD.  I didn't specify when I posted the photos but yes.

[Destiny]

Bonde is Karin Janssen standing next to Van der Straaten.  The rest are ALE forensic and maybe some FBI...not sure.

I thought in the original search of Joran's shed, the FBI had to stay outside the fence and could only look from afar.

Just from my memory.  I do also recall they were only there a very few hours, maybe 4-6 and it was all over. 

Biohazard suits. Yet they were not there long enough to do any detailed forensics.  Was it for show or what?

.

Whi isn't everyone in biohazards suits....?  standing so close to a gurney...I would want one like the others...

[jackb]

Who are the others in the photo?

That is not Vanderstratten, not the Chief Vanderstratten anyway.  That dude is heading up the Dutch investigators (forensic) and is from Holland, I believe.  Jan Vanderstratten looks nothing like this guy.   jack blue

[klaasend]

Bonde is Karin Janssen standing next to Van der Straaten.  The rest are ALE forensic and maybe some FBI...not sure.

I thought in the original search of Joran's shed, the FBI had to stay outside the fence and could only look from afar.

Just from my memory.  I do also recall they were only there a very few hours, maybe 4-6 and it was all over. 

Biohazard suits. Yet they were not there long enough to do any detailed forensics.  Was it for show or what?

.

That's why I said what I have highlighted above.  There are questions if FBI was allowed to participate at all.

[Destiny]

Rob...this appears to be a different location than the previous photos posted in this thread...and, why would VDS and Karen be present at a migrant workers' *suicide* ?

Destiny, it is a different location and those pictures are from 07.

I was just showing the attire used at the scene of a dead body.

Thank You Rob...I always need clarification...lol

[Nut44x4]

Biohazard suits for use around stinky sweat 

[Anna]

Klaas,

I thought those photos were of the KLPD in 2007, especially the guy with the measuring tape.  Wasn't that the Dutch search and not the original ALE one/

June 2005 is the original ALE.  April 2007 is KLPD.  I didn't specify when I posted the photos but yes.

Thanks for labeling them.  I am taking pain meds for an abscessed tooth and may be BUI.  Easily confused today.

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[Auntiem]

I guess because they are not going to "touch" anything!!!

[klaasend]

Who are the others in the photo?

That is not Vanderstratten, not the Chief Vanderstratten anyway.  That dude is heading up the Dutch investigators (forensic) and is from Holland, I believe.  Jan Vanderstratten looks nothing like this guy.   jack blue

Jack - you are wrong on this one.  That is Jan van der Straaten and that photo was from 2005 not 2007 when KLPD searched. 

[cubbeegirl]

The following three images are from a 'suicide'. I understand the scene was particularly grisly. The deceased man was a migrant construction worker. There was a dead body here. Note the attire.







The white funeral van is own by Ad Patres Funeral Home. Their website now appears to be closed.

Rob.... is that the same attire that was worn at the arubay rock scene?

[Rob]

Pic from June 05

Blown to 300% and Cropped


Colors inverted


In my opinion, looks like a stretcher possibly located in that frame.

[Nut44x4]

I was just thinking that cubbee...same attire as rocks pix.

[Debra]

>>>>taps toes<<<

REPLY to Rob's "Wine cellar" photo

"On the beach"...Moomba/Marriott beach

All the interviewed suspects worked on the beach
They were all "pimps" preying on ALL the students

Things were stolen
Rooms attempted to be broken into
Free drinks/Free ego stroking for them
ALL the students were set up..It was the p.i.m.p.s. game.

Joran
Guido
Freddy
Steve Croes
Geoffrey
Security guards
more....

Who was "working" on the beach, talking to Natalee (most likely rejected),
was at C&C & then back to the beach....Who's family and friends are the misdirection campaign.  Who is the "wild & crazy guy jealous of Joran"

[Rob]

Rob.... is that the same attire that was worn at the arubay rock scene?

yes it it. Those are bio-suits. Not Haz-Mat suits. Those suits you see here, are to keep biological material off your skin. They are not to prevent you from breathing toxic fume.