Natalee Case Discussion #730 2/13 - 2/14/08

[Bladerunner]

just a little thought on video 24  if you look at the bottom right part of the bag and pause it you will see a small shark trying to breath.  my thought Natalee was feed to the sharks no body no case and showing this video with the bag and the shark  was just a way to say she will never be found

Holy shit! Has this alway been known? I never noticed before. I don't think the shark was put in their to tip someone off.

Think about it. Why would you put live bait into a bag??  The only possible reason would be to attract other, larger predators.

Are these the arubay video's we are talking about?

There is NO doubt that there is a small shark in that bag, you can see it opening its mouth!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5761570736613527036

2:48 into the clip

thanks..unfortunately for me...i don't see a shark...it just too grainy for me to make anything out

This is a four frame sequence, the sharks head moves from side to side. Its mouth also opens as it gasps for air.

[Nut44x4]

Photo looks like a white cigarette/joint lighter to me.

I think so also..

I agree.

[Blonde]

Here is a coke vial. I searched for it using the words - cocaine popper, cocaine grinder, and cocaine sniffer. I have heard it called those terms before and it did not come up with those search terms. 

Their is also a cocaine sniffer, cocaine inhailer , Like a one shot at a time thing. I saw someone useing it once. 

[lilibelle]

OMG!  How sharp of you to see that!  I've looked at those darned videos a few times and never saw that poor fish!  Amazing!

[MumInOhio]

Teacat….Sorry I took so long to respond…LOL trying to post on 2 threads…we can’t be sure who was on the plane with Anita. A poster checked and was told 3 peeps on the plane, but Paulus uses the boys as his alibi, so I hope someone checked it out.

Anita arrived back at 8PM June 1st. and Paulus does not remember if
Sebastion went with him to pick her up at the airport. She was gone 8 days for I think a 90th birthday party and I am not sure if dates were changed because of this. The first part of this I got from one of Paulus’ PVs…not positive about the age…and exactly what relatives birthday it was.

I’m sorry now I don’t remember what else you asked….It was rumored that Paulus arrived back on the 29th as well….but I don’t know!…

[Blonde]

IN MY OPINION , and a few others that is not a fish it's a GIRL maybe NATALEE

[Peaches]

Another site is confirming that the white tube, pointed to, by the blue arrow, is used for cocaine.   

Buckeye... Don't know how in the heck I missed the white tube .... but yes that is used for cocaine...no big surprise to me... JMO

I guess if you don't have crispy dollar bill that would work.  Would you want to share?  I don't think so.

[bleachedblack]

I didn't see any shark head but I'm going back to watch again.

[Bladerunner]

IN MY OPINION , and a few others that is not a fish it's a GIRL maybe NATALEE

No image editing is needed to see this shark, I believe her body is in that bag too. But look at the photos I posted and watch the video its clear as day!

[ShinkinMonk]

ShinkinMonk

Joran could have any disorder.  I'm not very objective.  I vote sociopath.

True, he could have any diagnosis.  As I said, I never examined him.  However "sociopath", I guess you mean Anti-Social Personality Disorder is one possibility.

[klaasend]

Here is that portion of Chicago video 24 (aru-bay smallmovie17) where some see a shark.  Personally, I don't see a shark I simply see the light weight plastic moving in the breeze.  The area to look at is the bottom right of the bag:

[Blonde]

You screen shot was at a different time as mine here is yours
after turning and hitting neigative

[Bladerunner]

I didn't see any shark head but I'm going back to watch again.

It's there. On its left side facing the camera, click pause and play frame by frame and watch it move. The head goes back and forth a few times.

[Sue]

Here is that portion of Chicago video 24 (aru-bay smallmovie17) where some see a shark.  Personally, I don't see a shark I simply see the light weight plastic moving in the breeze.  The area to look at is the bottom right of the bag:

my goodness your freaking me out that picture is moving .. how the hell did you do that

[bleachedblack]

ShinkinMonk

Joran could have any disorder.  I'm not very objective.  I vote sociopath.

True, he could have any diagnosis.  As I said, I never examined him.  However "sociopath", I guess you mean Anti-Social Personality Disorder is one possibility.

Early on I was willing to give joran the benefit of the doubt(?) and consider him a sociopath. I am afraid at this time, my observations and readings of his various statements i would now likely consider him a psychopath.MOO I m not  trained psychiatrist, so MOO

[ShinkinMonk]

I'm going to post off for now.  If anyone has any questions they'd like to ask me you can email me (TJDK1964@aol.com).  I'll likely check recent posts around 11pm tonight.

Later, monks!
Shrinking Monk

[littletxlady]

ShinkinMonk

Joran could have any disorder.  I'm not very objective.  I vote sociopath.

True, he could have any diagnosis.  As I said, I never examined him.  However "sociopath", I guess you mean Anti-Social Personality Disorder is one possibility.

Hi Monkeys, Just in case you were missing me I thought I'd better check in and give you a little chuckle......LOL!

 

[Blonde]

I took 60 screen shots in this time frame and only 2 showed up clear enught to see a face, Natalee's I believe.
With the water moving it was VERY hard to capture this shot.

[klaasend]

Here is that portion of Chicago video 24 (aru-bay smallmovie17) where some see a shark.  Personally, I don't see a shark I simply see the light weight plastic moving in the breeze.  The area to look at is the bottom right of the bag:

my goodness your freaking me out that picture is moving .. how the hell did you do that

   I downloaded a software program that will turn a video clip into an animated GIF.  Comes in handy 

[Bladerunner]

That picture is too grainy to see anything. Flipping the picture is not needed. Too me it is so plainly obvious because when it first comes into the frame it immediately opens its mouth. Keep focused on that area as the bag comes into view that is 100% a shark.