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« Reply #100 on: February 14, 2008, 05:14:45 PM »

Spock - could very well be the same guy and dog. 
I think so too. I wonder why NO ONE has run a story on the aru-bay videos. Maybe we could get Dana to feature the videos and have Jossy and few other guests discuss what is happening there in early June 2005. Dana are you listening?

Jossy has been asked about the videos on Dana Pretzer before and he really didn't offer much information.  I don't think Jossy has any idea what the aru-bay videos were about.

I agree though, I'd love to see more attention to them.  Maybe it's something Peter DeVries can look into?

Klass I sent him all my screen shots yeaterday he said he would look into it for me.
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« Reply #101 on: February 14, 2008, 05:15:39 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: February 14, 2008, 05:16:12 PM »

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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem

Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police made errors in the case Joran van der Sloot

Firstly to the police

Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation let Van der Sloot to confess, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.

Civilian infiltrants

This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.

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« Reply #103 on: February 14, 2008, 05:16:37 PM »

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Debra,

Thank you for your kind words.

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« Reply #104 on: February 14, 2008, 05:17:06 PM »

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Politie negeerde aanbod Van der Eem

Minister Hirsch Ballin van Justitie geeft toe dat de politie fouten heeft gemaakt in de zaak Joran van der Sloot.

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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem

Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police made errors in the case Joran van der Sloot[/size]

http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/14/binnenland/0214_2245_Justitie_Patrick_van_der_Eem_infor_Joran.xml

IMO this is the first REAL news since the broadcast sunday 3th february

http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/14/binnenland/0214_2245_Justitie_Patrick_van_der_Eem_infor_Joran.xml

Entire article through the google translator:

First to the politie
Tegen appointments, information submitted by Patrick van der Eem, which Van der Sloot on hidden camera did confess, can not passed to the PPS. Before joining Peter R. Aanklopte de Vries, Van der Eem first went to the Gelderse police.

Burgerinfiltranten

Dat corps gave the information to the Corps in Rotterdam, but both forces left after this to the public prosecutor's office to report. According to the minister, it is not plausible that the testimony of Van der Eem have been used. The CDA would therefore a discussion on the role of burgerinfiltranten in criminal cases.
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« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2008, 05:17:52 PM »

Anyone know what van this is?
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« Reply #106 on: February 14, 2008, 05:19:48 PM »

Sunny,

Thanks, it just seems odd they were able to get an arrest with nothing and now they are rejected.

Has Paulus reviewed the judges appeal decision yet, you know, reviewed the wording?

I still am angry at the media for not coming out and saying Daury has to be Paulus.

The superior court saying Paulus met Natalee twice that evening. We know the first was in the casino but where could the second meeting have taken place given the timeline?

YW Frank.....I still believe MOS had new evidence....but 'someone' stopped him dead in his tracks....wish we had the answers to all those questions.....and why in the hell it was never addressed legally......it was enough to stop papa slop from getting what he felt was his monetary due!!
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« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2008, 05:21:22 PM »

They should swab Glenda's mouth and check it for just how many different male DNA's that can locate in there. I bet the answer is a world's record. They don't call her Rentahoe for nothing.

eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww whoever did the swabbing would certainly need to wear a hazmat suit.....eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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« Reply #108 on: February 14, 2008, 05:21:51 PM »

Isn't it true that Mos saw a copy of de vries's video before he arrested Joran the last time?

Can anyone confirm this?

The reason I'm asking is Mos knew he had no "new" evidence and yet managed to get an arrest warrant issued, setting the bar even higher when he knew this interview would come out.

It just keeps on stinking more and more...

Frank, Peter said urine was arrested the last time BEFORE they could start the sting

Hmm.  I thought the sting was interrupted by that last arrest.  Just when they were getting to the heart of the matter, JVDS got busted and they had to wait to get him to go further on tape.  The first person he called when he got back to Holland was Patrick.

Did I imagine the above?
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« Reply #109 on: February 14, 2008, 05:22:02 PM »

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Politie negeerde aanbod Van der Eem

Minister Hirsch Ballin van Justitie geeft toe dat de politie fouten heeft gemaakt in de zaak Joran van der Sloot.

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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem

Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police made errors in the case Joran van der Sloot[/size]

http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/14/binnenland/0214_2245_Justitie_Patrick_van_der_Eem_infor_Joran.xml

IMO this is the first REAL news since the broadcast sunday 3th february

It sure is!!!!  so now what are they gonna do about it

this is good news.
an error has been made.
so now there are questions asked.
and answers. more questions... and so on.

interesting is also.
that on monday right after the broadcast a fellow member of Hero Brinkman asked for an emergence debate about exactly this issue.
but other parties didn't want a debate???
why not? 

i think this is a start for some more.

also to bring this news on friday late evening is smart.
no parlaiment sessions over the weekend.
also next week the parlaiment has one week off!!!!!
so what they hope is, that in a week from now everybody has forgotten!

i won't 
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« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2008, 05:22:47 PM »


I don't know....seems doubtful.  The battery must have still been good for them to see the numbers stored on the phone.  Also, it doesn't say if the teacher used that phone to call those numbers, but if he did you would think that the phone had not been missing for very long or the service would have been disconnected.  Unless it was one of those prepaid phones.  Would one of those still have battery life left?

I think I read the teacher called the last number called...like redial and papa slop answered (I hope I didn't dream that) I lost a cell phone when we moved....didn't find it for over 3 months...the battery was dead...but when we recharged it I had calls and messages....so what if the phone wasn't missing for  a long time...but perhaps urine used Val's phone instead of his own.....even after nearly 3 years would any of those calls still be able to be traced?  As you might I have guessed I am cell phone illiterate   I just don't believe in coincidences like that
They can still find what calls were made even if the battery was dead through the SIM card or emei number on the phone. They probably have history going back 3 years with setar.

thanks "O".....dare I ask if anyone thinks that has been done?
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« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2008, 05:23:53 PM »

Posted by Glenda in the thread MF started regarding Pittbull's wife:



sounds like just cause for a search warrant to me.
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hahahahaha....quick some get that darn number...Destiny is on a roll!!!
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« Reply #112 on: February 14, 2008, 05:24:41 PM »

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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem

Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police made errors in the case Joran van der Sloot

Firstly to the police

Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation let Van der Sloot to confess, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.

Civilian infiltrants

This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.

source RTL nieuws

Is this like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?  Good grief.
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« Reply #113 on: February 14, 2008, 05:25:22 PM »

Are we confirming that once again the 8 day rule for appeal has been fudged?

Really. What a shock.

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« Reply #114 on: February 14, 2008, 05:26:11 PM »

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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem

Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police made errors in the case Joran van der Sloot

Firstly to the police

Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation let Van der Sloot to confess, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.

Civilian infiltrants

This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.

source RTL nieuws

Is this like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?  Good grief.

Hi Peaches!

Sorta like the right hand doesn't even know there is a left hand!
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« Reply #115 on: February 14, 2008, 05:27:00 PM »

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SEVERAL PEOPLE REPORTED SHOT AT NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY

**Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more 

These incidents in Illinois are becoming more and more common and becoming more and more worrisome.
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« Reply #116 on: February 14, 2008, 05:27:26 PM »

Isn't it true that Mos saw a copy of de vries's video before he arrested Joran the last time?

Can anyone confirm this?

The reason I'm asking is Mos knew he had no "new" evidence and yet managed to get an arrest warrant issued, setting the bar even higher when he knew this interview would come out.

It just keeps on stinking more and more...

Frank, Peter said urine was arrested the last time BEFORE they could start the sting

Hmm.  I thought the sting was interrupted by that last arrest.  Just when they were getting to the heart of the matter, JVDS got busted and they had to wait to get him to go further on tape.  The first person he called when he got back to Holland was Patrick.

Did I imagine the above?

I think we are both right....in referring to the sting I was thinking the cameras and microphones....but I might be wrong...and yes he did call patrick and if I remember correctly brought him a present
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« Reply #117 on: February 14, 2008, 05:28:19 PM »

caesu, I hope you're right.

Last nite, UPS delivered the loveliest dozen tulips from my father for me on Valentine's Day.  Normally, I would have frowned because they are tulips but so many of our recent Dutch monkeys have been so generous with their time and info, that I'm starting to rething my "tulip" boycott.  Besides, they're beautiful and my dad sent them. 

But I'm still never going to Aruba.
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« Reply #118 on: February 14, 2008, 05:29:18 PM »

O/T

SEVERAL PEOPLE REPORTED SHOT AT NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY

**Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more 

These incidents in Illinois are becoming more and more common and becoming more and more worrisome.

I agree.  If the students and faculty are licensed to carry, they should be allowed to carry on school grounds.  I bet that would stop most of this crazy shit!
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« Reply #119 on: February 14, 2008, 05:30:17 PM »

When ski masks are outlawed, only outlaws will have ski masks.

 
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