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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:14:45 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on February 14, 2008, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: Spock on February 14, 2008, 04:08:48 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 14, 2008, 04:03:38 PM
Spock
- could very well be the same guy and dog.
I think so too. I wonder why NO ONE has run a story on the aru-bay videos. Maybe we could get Dana to feature the videos and have Jossy and few other guests discuss what is happening there in early June 2005. Dana are you listening?
Jossy has been asked about the videos on Dana Pretzer before and he really didn't offer much information. I don't think Jossy has any idea what the aru-bay videos were about.
I agree though, I'd love to see more attention to them. Maybe it's something Peter DeVries can look into?
Klass I sent him all my screen shots yeaterday he said he would look into it for me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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O/T
SEVERAL PEOPLE REPORTED SHOT AT NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem
Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police
made errors
in the case Joran van der Sloot
Firstly to the police
Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation
let Van der Sloot to confess
, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.
Civilian infiltrants
This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.
source RTL nieuws
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Rob and Kermit...You guys RoCk![/quote]
Debra,
Thank you for your kind words.
Is the photo in Maria Mai?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Quote from: caesu on February 14, 2008, 05:04:35 PM
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Politie negeerde aanbod Van der Eem
Minister Hirsch Ballin van Justitie geeft toe dat de politie fouten heeft gemaakt in de zaak Joran van der Sloot.
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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem
Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police
made errors
in the case Joran van der Sloot[/size]
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/14/binnenland/0214_2245_Justitie_Patrick_van_der_Eem_infor_Joran.xml
IMO this is the first REAL news since the broadcast sunday 3th february
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/14/binnenland/0214_2245_Justitie_Patrick_van_der_Eem_infor_Joran.xml
Entire article through the google translator:
First to the politie
Tegen appointments, information submitted by Patrick van der Eem, which Van der Sloot on hidden camera did confess, can not passed to the PPS. Before joining Peter R. Aanklopte de Vries, Van der Eem first went to the Gelderse police.
Burgerinfiltranten
Dat corps gave the information to the Corps in Rotterdam, but both forces left after this to the public prosecutor's office to report. According to the minister, it is not plausible that the testimony of Van der Eem have been used. The CDA would therefore a discussion on the role of burgerinfiltranten in criminal cases.
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Anyone know what van this is?
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Quote from: Frank on February 14, 2008, 05:10:13 PM
Sunny,
Thanks, it just seems odd they were able to get an arrest with nothing and now they are rejected.
Has Paulus reviewed the judges appeal decision yet, you know, reviewed the wording?
I still am angry at the media for not coming out and saying Daury has to be Paulus.
The superior court saying Paulus met Natalee twice that evening. We know the first was in the casino but where could the second meeting have taken place given the timeline?
YW Frank.....I still believe MOS had new evidence....but 'someone' stopped him dead in his tracks....wish we had the answers to all those questions.....and why in the hell it was never addressed legally......it was enough to stop papa slop from getting what he felt was his monetary due!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:21:22 PM »
Quote from: private eye on February 14, 2008, 05:05:15 PM
They should swab Glenda's mouth and check it for just how many different male DNA's that can locate in there. I bet the answer is a world's record. They don't call her Rentahoe for nothing.
eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww whoever did the swabbing would certainly need to wear a hazmat suit.....eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:21:51 PM »
Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 05:07:17 PM
Quote from: Frank on February 14, 2008, 05:03:40 PM
Isn't it true that Mos saw a copy of de vries's video before he arrested Joran the last time?
Can anyone confirm this?
The reason I'm asking is Mos knew he had no "new" evidence and yet managed to get an arrest warrant issued, setting the bar even higher when he knew this interview would come out.
It just keeps on stinking more and more...
Frank, Peter said urine was arrested the last time BEFORE they could start the sting
Hmm. I thought the sting was interrupted by that last arrest. Just when they were getting to the heart of the matter, JVDS got busted and they had to wait to get him to go further on tape. The first person he called when he got back to Holland was Patrick.
Did I imagine the above?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:22:02 PM »
Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: caesu on February 14, 2008, 05:04:35 PM
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Politie negeerde aanbod Van der Eem
Minister Hirsch Ballin van Justitie geeft toe dat de politie fouten heeft gemaakt in de zaak Joran van der Sloot.
Quote
Police ignored offer of Van der Eem
Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police
made errors
in the case Joran van der Sloot[/size]
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/14/binnenland/0214_2245_Justitie_Patrick_van_der_Eem_infor_Joran.xml
IMO this is the first REAL news since the broadcast sunday 3th february
It sure is!!!! so now what are they gonna do about it
this is good news.
an error has been made.
so now there are questions asked.
and answers. more questions... and so on.
interesting is also.
that on monday right after the broadcast a fellow member of Hero Brinkman asked for an emergence debate about exactly this issue.
but other parties didn't want a debate???
why not?
i think this is a start for some more.
also to bring this news on friday late evening is smart.
no parlaiment sessions over the weekend.
also next week the parlaiment has one week off!!!!!
so what they hope is, that in a week from now everybody has forgotten!
i won't
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Quote from: ******* on February 14, 2008, 05:12:30 PM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on February 14, 2008, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
Quote from: Nut44x4 on February 14, 2008, 04:38:53 PM
I don't know....seems doubtful. The battery must have still been good for them to see the numbers stored on the phone. Also, it doesn't say if the teacher used that phone to call those numbers, but if he did you would think that the phone had not been missing for very long or the service would have been disconnected. Unless it was one of those prepaid phones. Would one of those still have battery life left?
I think I read the teacher called the last number called...like redial and papa slop answered (I hope I didn't dream that) I lost a cell phone when we moved....didn't find it for over 3 months...the battery was dead...but when we recharged it I had calls and messages....so what if the phone wasn't missing for a long time...but perhaps urine used Val's phone instead of his own.....even after nearly 3 years would any of those calls still be able to be traced? As you might I have guessed I am cell phone illiterate
I just don't believe in coincidences like that
They can still find what calls were made even if the battery was dead through the SIM card or emei number on the phone. They probably have history going back 3 years with setar.
thanks "O".....dare I ask if anyone thinks that has been done?
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Rest in Peace Caylee
Natalee, We will never forget.
Zahra, run with the Angels
PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GET OVER IT! It's not about you or me.....It's about the Missing and the Murdered
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:23:53 PM »
Quote from: Destiny on February 14, 2008, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: dennisintn on February 14, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 14, 2008, 04:49:18 PM
Posted by Glenda in the thread MF started regarding Pittbull's wife:
sounds like just cause for a search warrant to me.
dennisintn
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hahahahaha....quick some get that darn number...Destiny is on a roll!!!
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Rest in Peace Caylee
Natalee, We will never forget.
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PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GET OVER IT! It's not about you or me.....It's about the Missing and the Murdered
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:24:41 PM »
Quote from: caesu on February 14, 2008, 05:16:12 PM
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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem
Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police
made errors
in the case Joran van der Sloot
Firstly to the police
Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation
let Van der Sloot to confess
, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.
Civilian infiltrants
This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.
source RTL nieuws
Is this like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing? Good grief.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Are we confirming that once again the 8 day rule for appeal has been fudged?
Really. What a shock.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Quote from: Peaches on February 14, 2008, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: caesu on February 14, 2008, 05:16:12 PM
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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem
Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police
made errors
in the case Joran van der Sloot
Firstly to the police
Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation
let Van der Sloot to confess
, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.
Civilian infiltrants
This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.
source RTL nieuws
Is this like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing? Good grief.
Hi Peaches!
Sorta like the right hand doesn't even know there is a left hand!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
O/T
SEVERAL PEOPLE REPORTED SHOT AT NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY
**Watch FOX News Channel or go to
http://foxnews.com
for more
These incidents in Illinois are becoming more and more common and becoming more and more worrisome.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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February 14, 2008, 05:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Peaches on February 14, 2008, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 05:07:17 PM
Quote from: Frank on February 14, 2008, 05:03:40 PM
Isn't it true that Mos saw a copy of de vries's video before he arrested Joran the last time?
Can anyone confirm this?
The reason I'm asking is Mos knew he had no "new" evidence and yet managed to get an arrest warrant issued, setting the bar even higher when he knew this interview would come out.
It just keeps on stinking more and more...
Frank, Peter said urine was arrested the last time BEFORE they could start the sting
Hmm. I thought the sting was interrupted by that last arrest. Just when they were getting to the heart of the matter, JVDS got busted and they had to wait to get him to go further on tape. The first person he called when he got back to Holland was Patrick.
Did I imagine the above?
I think we are both right....in referring to the sting I was thinking the cameras and microphones....but I might be wrong...and yes he did call patrick and if I remember correctly brought him a present
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
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caesu, I hope you're right.
Last nite, UPS delivered the loveliest dozen tulips from my father for me on Valentine's Day. Normally, I would have frowned because they are tulips but so many of our recent Dutch monkeys have been so generous with their time and info, that I'm starting to rething my "tulip" boycott. Besides, they're beautiful and my dad sent them.
But I'm still never going to Aruba.
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Quote from: Tylergal on February 14, 2008, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on February 14, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
O/T
SEVERAL PEOPLE REPORTED SHOT AT NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY
**Watch FOX News Channel or go to
http://foxnews.com
for more
These incidents in Illinois are becoming more and more common and becoming more and more worrisome.
I agree. If the students and faculty are licensed to carry, they should be allowed to carry on school grounds. I bet that would stop most of this crazy shit!
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When ski masks are outlawed, only outlaws will have ski masks.
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