Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 /08 - 2/15/08
caesu:
Quote from: Peaches on February 14, 2008, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: caesu on February 14, 2008, 05:16:12 PM
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Police ignored offer of Van der Eem
Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin acknowledges that the police made errors in the case Joran van der Sloot
Firstly to the police
Against agreement in information originating from Patrick of van der Eem, whose under-cover operation let Van der Sloot to confess, was not forward to the OM. Before contacted Peter R. de Vries, Van der Eem firstly to the Gelderland police.
Civilian infiltrants
This police force passed on the information, however, to the police in Rotterdam, but both police forces did not communicate this the to OM. According to the minister it is not plausible that the under-cover Van der Eem would have been usable anyway. For this reason governement coalition party CDA wants a discussion concerning the role of civilian infiltrants in criminal matters.
source RTL nieuws
Is this like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing? Good grief.
exactly!! this is simular to what happened in the IRT-affair 1994.
in the IRT-affair they did use infiltrants and it went wrong.
now they didn't use a infiltrant and it went wrong.
because of IRT-affair Hirsch Ballin resigned a justice minister.
also Rudy Croes - justice minister before 1994 was involved in that.
now they are both justice minister again and hate eachother.
also in the netherlands after the IRT-affair they started BOB-operations.
that's like special investigation tactics. why didn't they use that?
aruba has no BOB. why not?
::MonkeyHaHa::
all politics but things are coming together. nice. ::MonkeyWink::
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parlementaire_enqu%C3%AAtecommissie_opsporingsmethoden
Tylergal:
Quote from: Frank on February 14, 2008, 05:25:22 PM
Are we confirming that once again the 8 day rule for appeal has been fudged?
Really. What a shock.
Said they would definitely have a decision whether or not to arrest within the next 24 hours.
SunnyinTX:
Quote from: Peaches on February 14, 2008, 05:28:19 PM
caesu, I hope you're right.
Last nite, UPS delivered the loveliest dozen tulips from my father for me on Valentine's Day. Normally, I would have frowned because they are tulips but so many of our recent Dutch monkeys have been so generous with their time and info, that I'm starting to rething my "tulip" boycott. Besides, they're beautiful and my dad sent them.
But I'm still never going to Aruba.
LOL...enjoy your tulips...they are filled with love.....and I am never going to aruba again either unless it's for a memorial for Natalee...!...hated it the only time I was there and would not want to contribute one cent to the island...except for Natalee
caesu:
i am not watching it but on tv show Pauw / Witteman they started bashing Hero Brinkman!
what a surprise ::MonkeyWink::
Tamikosmom:
Quote from: Frank on February 14, 2008, 05:10:13 PM
Sunny,
Thanks, it just seems odd they were able to get an arrest with nothing and now they are rejected.
Has Paulus reviewed the judges appeal decision yet, you know, reviewed the wording?
I still am angry at the media for not coming out and saying Daury has to be Paulus.
The superior court saying Paulus met Natalee twice that evening. We know the first was in the casino but where could the second meeting have taken place given the timeline?
Frank ... the Superior Court ruling that reversed the compensation previously awarded Paulus for wrongful detention was based on taped evidence (casino video?) as well as Paulus' words (declaration?) spoken in front of witnesses at the Twitty group encounter on the morning of May 31, 2005.
I contend that Paulus lied when he stated that he up Natalee and Joran at 4:00 AM and then took Natalee to the Holiday Inn on the morning of May 30, 2005. I speculate that Paulus was attempting to either create an alibi for his son or ... an alibi for himself in the event that someone had witnessed him in the Marriot Beach area. I suspect that Paulus' presence in the Marriott Beach area on the morning of May 30, 2005 had everything to do with a panic call from his son and ... had everything to do with a deceased Natalee.
Paulus later denied that he made that statement to the Twitty group that he picked up Natalee and Joran that morning but ... the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.
Janet
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Superior Court Ruling
January, 2007
The possible involvement of Paulus with that could then be deducted from the file with the official reports of witnesses, amongst which two people suggested a contact existed between Paulus and Natalee Holloway the night of her disappearance, and a taped report (that was given by the Prosecutor in her final note 1 to the Court). The taped information and his declaration that he picked up Joran and Natalee by the McDonalds Palm Beach and brought them to the Holiday Inn, are clearly understood by the Dept. of Justice, and could in the judgement of this Superior Court, be considered as an indication of the involvement of Paulus in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
Jossy Mansur
Dana Pretzer Show
December 14, 2006
PRETZER: When you look at this case, a question keeps coming up. I am looking at the picture on my PC. It is the alleged picture of a person in the casino with Natalee that looks a lot like Paul. Has there been any update on this issue?
MANSUR: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul.
Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
August 12, 2005
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: ... Paulus Van Der Sloot stated that he picked up at 4:00 AM on May the 30th. Then -- we don`t know who they were, but then even as far as June 16 and June 17, Mr. Van Der Sloot was still stating this 4:00 AM pickup. Only until around -- maybe it was when he was picked up or arrested did he change it to 11:00 PM that I had knowledge of.
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