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« Reply #380 on: February 14, 2008, 09:33:41 PM »

please explain the marshall rule?

In the US, if local law enforcement needs assistance with enforcing the peace, our armed forces will assist the local law enforcment.  This is known as marshal LAW.  Should it be declared the the local law enforement is corrupt, our military will establish martial rule. Im other words, the military becomes government, law enforcement, etc.

If you need further clarification, check out 'Jericho' on CBS.
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« Reply #381 on: February 14, 2008, 09:35:13 PM »

I do feel bad for Sebastian  ...I always have. He didn't ask for any of this.
  Is that Poppin' Fresh?  There is a Sebastian vanderSloot at one of the universities.  Maybe Poppin' was named for him.
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« Reply #382 on: February 14, 2008, 09:36:21 PM »

What does everyone make of the 2nd FBI statement by Katherine "Madison" Whatley?

the one about the girls taking a nap in the room and someone in a dark uniform trying to open the sliding glass door.

could be the mini bar man... they seem to have a habit of showing up at the worst times. They barely even knock and they're in.
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« Reply #383 on: February 14, 2008, 09:36:34 PM »

just read on the Dutch news than joran will not go to jail again.... aruban OM thinks he has a personality disorder.
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So people with personality disorders aren't capable of committing a crime?

OCD, Bipolar, Antisocial....these people don't have breaks from reality.  They are very well aware of right and wrong. Why does a disorder excuse a criminal act? 
You have been told a hundred times by Arleen, "we don't understand their system."
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« Reply #384 on: February 14, 2008, 09:38:07 PM »

ala_gunslinger, if you can explain to me what the marshall rule is, maybe i can answer your question

In the United States, our armed forces may be activated to assist local law enforcement in keeping the peace.  This is known as marshal law.  If it is suspected that local law enforcement/government is corrupt, our armed forces may be activated to replace local law enforcement and local government.  This is known as marshal rule.
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« Reply #385 on: February 14, 2008, 09:38:29 PM »

Same announcement.  This one out of Curacao, where the court is held.

http://www.wereldomroep.nl/news/domestic/5643224/Joran-van-der-Sloot-niet-opnieuw-opgepakt
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« Reply #386 on: February 14, 2008, 09:39:24 PM »

just read on the Dutch news than joran will not go to jail again.... aruban OM thinks he has a personality disorder.
OMG

So people with personality disorders aren't capable of committing a crime?

OCD, Bipolar, Antisocial....these people don't have breaks from reality.  They are very well aware of right and wrong. Why does a disorder excuse a criminal act? 
You have been told a hundred times by Arleen, "we don't understand their system."

I think we can tell Arlene with the whorish red lips, that we now have Aruba's number She looks as if she is dressing as a replacment for the aging Rentahoe
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« Reply #387 on: February 14, 2008, 09:39:56 PM »

This is rumored to be Paulus's brother -



Marco

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On Dana's show of 12/14/2006, Jossy mentioned Marco as Paulus' brother and said he is involved with the government in the NL, specifically with economic policy.

I have had this saved forever not sure if any o it is true.

Please note that Tilburg University is deeply involved in this case and should almost certainly be a point of origin with the Babylonian Elders. These brothers certainly are the reason that this case is stuck where it is. Particularly Marco.


PVDS has several brothers in Holland. They hold some very interesting positions...

1) Let's start with Marco van der Sloot. He holds the title of Coördinator van de commissie MKE (Mobiliteit, Kennis en Economie) of the The Volkspartij voor Vrijheid en Democratie (People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy, VVD) and is an active member of the VVD, the 3rd largest political party in the Netherlands.

The VVD holds alot of power, bc the President of the Tweede Kamer(the House of Representatives of the Dutch Parliament) is a VVD big-wig, he is Mr F. W. (Frans) Weisglas, President of the House of Representatives. The head of the Tweede Kamer Economic Commission, Mr. P.H. Hofstra, is also a VVD big-wig, and Marco is rumored to be his favorite protoge, largely due to the success of Marco's pet project, the Kennisalliantie, which has generated quite a bit of money for the party.

Marco plays a key role in the Ministry of Economic Affairs for the VVD, particularly in developing the Kennisalliantie, a successful program focused on developing partnerships between the public and private sectors for economic development of various types of infrastructure projects in critical areas such as Energy, Transportation, Water, etc. He is a Civil Engineer by training, and you can access his CV on his website.

The links below will tell you all about Marco van der Sloot and his role in the VVD, from the spear-heading the Kennisalliantie program (The Knowledge Alliance of South-Holland), to winning a contract (money) for a water treatment plant in SURINAM, to being a member of the VVD's Delegation to Prince Alexander. He looks alot like his brother, PVDS. You can phone Marco if you wish at tel. 06 45470983.

BY THE WAY, their are a few other interesting names that pop up among the VVD parliment members, including Marcus Lens van Rijn (isn't that Lorenzo's last name?) and Ms. E.I. Schippers ( does the name Arlene Ellis-Schippers ring a bell?) Then there is Mr. Nico Janssens, another VVD bigshot parliment member....

http://www.houseofrepresentatives.nl/index.jsp
http://www.houseofrepresentatives.nl/meet_the_tweede_kamer/i ndex.jsp
http://www.vvdrotterdam.nl/intranet/mod/smb/public_smb2.cfm
http://www.vvdzuidholland.nl/
http://www.vvdprinsalexander.nl/

http://www.vvdprinsalexander.nl/
http://www.vvdrotterdam.nl/intranet/mod/smb/public_smb2.cfm
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/PB_CWP_mke.doc
Marco van der Sloot
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/_private/CV-SLOOTNL2005.pdf
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/interest.htm
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/MKEartikelnieuwsbrief2003beg roting.doc
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/PB_CWP_mke.doc
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/photo.htm
http://home.planet.nl/~sloo0013/provincie.htm
http://www.vvd.nl/index2.asp?ItemCode=VVD&HomePage=True

http://www.houseofrepresentatives.nl/members_of_parliament/p resident_of_the_house/index.jsp

http://www.vvdzuidholland.nl/
http://www.zuid-holland.nl/overig/zoeken/zoekresultaten.jsp
http://www.zuid-holland.nl/thema/economie_en_werk/index.jsp
http://www.pzh.nl/thema/economie_en_werk/kenniseconomie/inde x.jsp

http://www.pzh.nl/
http://www.parlement.nl/
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/leden_commissies_fracties/commissi es/index.jsp

http://www.pzh.nl/thema/economie_en_werk/kenniseconomie/inde x.jsp
http://www.pzh.nl/thema/economie_en_werk/kenniseconomie/inde x.jsp

http://www.vvd.nl/index2.asp?ParentItemID=0&ItemID=37&Select edItemID=296

http://www.vvd.nl/index2.asp?ParentItemID=0&ItemID=37&Select edItemID=297

http://www.vvdrotterdam.nl/wethouders/nicojanssens.htm

http://www.kennisalliantie.nl/
http://www.zuid-holland.nl/images/126_98984.doc
http://www.pzh.nl/overig/zoeken/zoekresultaten.jsp

http://www.kennisalliantie.nl/index.php?n0=1
http://www.pzh.nl/thema/economie_en_werk/kenniseconomie/kenn isalliantie/index.jsp


2) Brother #2 is Hans van der Sloot. Hans is a LANDFILL EXPERT!!! Another Civil Engineer by training, he is a senior researcher at the quasi-governmental enterprise, The Energy Research Centre of the Netherlands. He has authored numerous article on decomposition of organic and inorganic materials at dump sites, and is the Director of Project HORIZONTAL which started in December 2002 with the aim to develop horizontal and harmonised European standards in the field of sludge, soil, and treated biowaste. He is a world-renowned expert in waste treatment and landfill management. Ironic, huh? You can email Hans at: vandersloot@ecn.nl

and read all about his expertise in LANDFILLS by following these links.


http://www.ecn.nl/
http://www.ecn.nl/horizontal/
http://www.cenorm.be/cenorm/workarea/sectorfora/construction +sector+network/vandersloot3.pdf
http://search.surfnet.nl/cgi-bin/qsearch.pl
http://www.ecn.nl/library/reports/2003/rx03034.html
http://www.ecn.nl/docs/library/report/2003/rx03034.pdf
http://www.ecn.nl/library/reports/2002/rx02061.html
http://www.ecn.nl/cgi-ecn/ecn/publauth.pl?author=Sloot,+H.A. +van+der&unit=SF〈=NL

http://www.ecn.nl/docs/library/report/2002/rx02067.pdf

http://www.ecn.nl/cgi-ecn/ecn/publauth.pl?author=Sloot,+H.A. +van+der&unit=SF〈=NL

http://www.ecn.nl/index.en.html

http://www.ecn.nl/horizontal/
http://www.ecn.nl/horizontal/news.php

http://www.cenorm.be/cenorm/workarea/sectorfora/construction +sector+network/vandersloot3.pdf
http://www.cenorm.be/cenorm/workarea/sectorfora/construction +sector+network/vandersloot21.pdf

http://www.ath.aegean.gr/srcosmos/generic_pinakas.aspx?pinak as=cited_refs&id=29157&alpharef=Van-Der-sloot%20HA

http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/test/pdfs/internl.pdf



3) Last but not least we have Ko. van der Sloot, a Scientific Programmer and professor of Faculty of Arts,
Language and Information Science at Tilburg University, aka, Paulus' Alma Mater. The quiet one, Ko sticks to writing boring technical manuals, teaching, and doing his research as a Scientific Programmer in IT Services Infrastructure & Development. He can be reached at Language and Information Science Department
Room L124
P.O. Box 90153
NL-5000 LE Tilburg, The Netherlands
Phone +31 13 466 3202
Fax +31 13 466 3189
E-mail: Ko.vanderSloot@uvt.nl

While he leads a rather inconspicuous life, Ko might soon come in handy for PVDS, since it is likely that the after PVDS buys son Joran's way out of jail, the only university in the world that will take the notorious Aruban teen will be daisysistah other than Tilburg University, where daddy PVDS went to school, and uncle Ko is a professor.

http://www.tilburguniversity.nl/university/
http://www.uvt.nl/webwijs/english/show.html?anr=155659


More on Marcos' Economic Development Program:

The Knowledge Alliance of South-Holland
The Lisbon strategy stated that by 2010 Europe should become "the most competitive and dynamic knowledge based economy in the world with sustainable economic growth, more and better jobs, and greater social cohesion".
In this context the "Kennisalliantie" (Knowledge Alliance) aims to increase knowledge intensive activities within the province of South Holland (Zuid-Holland) to help establish one of the leading, and most competitive regions within this international knowledge based economy.
Our main focus is to facilitate the process of creating an economy that is based on the provision of competitive high-value services, and the development of innovative products. It is not simply about pushing back the frontiers of knowledge; it is also about the more effective use and exploitation of all types of knowledge, in all forms of economic activity.
All the ingredients for the creation of a sustainable knowledge based economy are present in the region: numerous knowledge institutions (universities, international institutions, research institutes), superb infrastructure (Rotterdam Harbour, Schiphol Airport), and the presence of 30 multinational headquarters and thousands of small and medium-size enterprises (SMEs).
Thus, the Kennisalliantie brings together a network of government, private sector and knowledge institutions to create a sustainable and competitive knowledge-based economy in our region. The Kennisalliantie is a platform aimed at coordinating events and jointly taking knowledge-intensive business and innovation to a higher level. With all major players in the regional knowledge infrastructure united, success is within reach.
The Kennisalliantie focuses on four main projects:
Project 1: Knowledge to the Market
Project 2: SME Match (Small and Medium-size Enterprise-Match)
Project 3: IPTS (Information Point Techno Start-ups)
Project 4: Think Tank
Project 1: Knowledge to the Market
The purpose of this project was to set up clusters of government, private sector, and knowledge institutions within nine highly knowledge-intensive categories. These nine clusters are:
 Water & Delta Technology
 ICT & Telecom
 Aerospace & Composites
 Life Sciences
 Shipping, Trade, Transport & Logistics
 Sensor & Nanotechnology
 International Law
 Glasshouse Horticulture
 Process Industry
Key players within the cluster identify themes and projects in which the application of (new) technologies or the uses of existing technologies from other fields form the principle focus.
The Kennisalliantie nurtures the innovation process by organizing facilitating activities. It organizes workshops and meetings for targeted groups of technology experts and specialists from industries working in the field. These events result in the establishment of consortia consisting of the parties concerned for the purpose of conducting feasibility studies and/or pilot studies that will lead to the development and commercialization of new products and services.
Project 2: SME-Match (Small and Medium-size Enterprise Match)
In a competitive environment, innovation is a key driver of economic growth. While small and medium-size enterprises constitute the region’s largest body of employers, they often lack the time and capacity to realize their innovative goals.
The objective of SME Match is to create the opportunity for SMEs to employ highly qualified students who can facilitate in realizing those innovative goals.
The internships run from three to five months. Only students in their final year at higher educational levels are eligible. A limited budget is available to enable participating companies to accumulate external knowledge where needed.
Project 3: IPTS (Techno Start-up Information Point)
Starting entrepreneurs quite often need a lot of information and support to start up or consolidate their businesses. A wide range of such services, including housing, research facilities, coaching, business planning and funding is available from a number of support organizations.
It is essential to be able to find the right services for any given type of business. The Kennisalliantie has created a portal that includes a digital map of all related services available in Zuid-Holland. The purpose of this online guiding system is to help Techno start-ups match the most suitable services to their specific needs.
The power of the IPTS is that it helps Techno Start-ups reduce the time, cost and energy invested in searching for the most appropriate services.
Project 4: Think Tank
A Think Tank has also been set up for the purpose of developing a vision and strategy for the creation of an innovative regional economy. National and international experts contribute to the development of this regional vision - not only by making use of analyses and up-to-date research methods, but also by conducting studies of the available literature and interviews with local experts. The results of the first (out of five) research project are currently being processed.


and Hans' Landfill Project:

Project HORIZONTAL started in December 2002 with the aim to develop horizontal and harmonised European standards in the field of sludge, soil, and treated biowaste to facilitate the regulation of these major streams in the multiple decisions related to different uses and disposal governed by EU Directives. The work started with desk studies on all topics relevant in the project to evaluate the feasibility of the development of a horizontal standard or horizontal standards for sampling, biological parameters, hygienic parameters, organic parameters, inorganic parameters, mechanical properties and leaching in the fields of sludge, soil and treated biowaste.

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« Reply #388 on: February 14, 2008, 09:39:56 PM »

Good night ya'll, I am repeating myself, and having trouble spelling!   
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« Reply #389 on: February 14, 2008, 09:40:34 PM »

Marshall law was established in both Germany and Japan and it was called the Marshall plan. IIRC and I think I do.
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« Reply #390 on: February 14, 2008, 09:40:40 PM »

just read on the Dutch news than joran will not go to jail again.... aruban OM thinks he has a personality disorder.
OMG

So people with personality disorders aren't capable of committing a crime?

OCD, Bipolar, Antisocial....these people don't have breaks from reality.  They are very well aware of right and wrong. Why does a disorder excuse a criminal act? 
You have been told a hundred times by Arleen, "we don't understand their system."

I hate to admit it...but...Arleen was right.  Odd though, I do understand the Dutch system....must be that Aruban "sovereign nation" business.
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« Reply #391 on: February 14, 2008, 09:40:47 PM »

I do feel bad for Sebastian  ...I always have. He didn't ask for any of this.
  Is that Poppin' Fresh?  There is a Sebastian vanderSloot at one of the universities.  Maybe Poppin' was named for him.

Neither did Val, his momma volunteered him
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« Reply #392 on: February 14, 2008, 09:40:50 PM »

hey caesu,
ik kwam misschien een beetje bitcherig over in mn post, maar zo bedoelde ik het niet hoor. ik begrijp dat je het je aantrekt en je bent terecht verontwaardigd over de gang van zaken.
maar ik ben bang dat als de PVV zich hiermee gaat bemoeien, dat het kabinet het dan doodzwijgt aleen al omdat het de partij van wilders is.
en ik denk ook ... kijk, corruptie zit overal dus in nederland ook echt wel.... maar we moeten hier wel uitkijken dat we niet onbedoeld heel nederland corrupt laten lijken.
degenen die uit nederland komen en corrupt zijn moeten goed afgestraft worden.
maar balkenende is er al mee bezig... benieuwd wat hij vrijdag gaat zeggen op aruba want st.maarten (vrouwenhandel, georganiseerde misdaad) heeft hij goed de les gelezen.

wat peter r de vries betreft... die had al tips achter de hand, ben ik van overtuigd. die zet niet alles op een kaart, is hij veel te gis voor.
ik hoop echt dat hij het weer oppakt.
caesu, ik wens je een goede nachtrust voor straks, en denk om je bloeddruk.... wij kunnen het helaas niet 1 2 3 oplossen dus het wordt toch afwachte hoe het balletje verder rolt.
maar ik zou ook heel graag gerechtigheid zien in deze zaak, en liefst snel.
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« Reply #393 on: February 14, 2008, 09:42:51 PM »

Same announcement.  This one out of Curacao, where the court is held.

http://www.wereldomroep.nl/news/domestic/5643224/Joran-van-der-Sloot-niet-opnieuw-opgepakt

Joran van der Sloot not re-arrested
Published: Friday, February 15, 2008 01:23 UTC
Last updated: Friday, February 15, 2008 01:23 UTC

Curacao - Joran van der Sloot is not re-arrested in the Holloway case. This is the Common Court of Justice in Curaçao. In the course of Friday, the Court with a detailed explanation.
According to the Dutch lawyer Van der Sloot, the Court determined that the programme of Peter R. De Vries is not sufficient for a new arrest. The confession that Van der Sloot did it in front of a mole would not be supported by other data.

Furthermore, according to the lawyer included that the student Arnhemse often has lied about the events in Aruba. The Court and the PPS do not preclude Van der Sloot has a severe personality disorder, according to his lawyer.

Van der Sloot has been twice previously locked in the verdwijningszaak. Therefore, the Court finds that there is significant evidence to bring him again to arrest.
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« Reply #394 on: February 14, 2008, 09:43:46 PM »

I'm just catching up. Ugh. Greta will have "important news out of Aruba tonight" -- this is obviously the story, that Joran will not be arrested. I think it might be martial law, as in law enforced by people with guns. Not marshal law, as in law enforced by Marshal Matt Dillon. I will not try to look it up. So disappointing but not surprising.

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« Reply #395 on: February 14, 2008, 09:43:49 PM »

I wrote this a few days ago, I think it underscores the strategy of the corrupt:

You just nailed it. That is how deep this cover-up runs that you would bring a guy back in knowing full well you don't have any new evidence. Why do that? The only reason is to, as you say, "elevate the bar", so that the standard that would have to be applied IF new evidence were to surface in the future would be completely out of reach, giving the prosecution no possible means to secure a conviction.

What is truely amazing is that they have gone to extraordinary lengths to protect the Van Der Satan's all the while causing so much collateral damage one has to wonder which crime is more heinous.

May GOD have mercy on their souls.
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« Reply #396 on: February 14, 2008, 09:44:00 PM »

Buckeye - I totally get it now... and so does Klaas... and so does Yvonne DeVries.

and so do you...
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« Reply #397 on: February 14, 2008, 09:46:18 PM »

Here's martial law, from Encarta:

mar·tial law


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control by armed forces: the control and policing of a civilian population by military forces and according to military rules, imposed, e.g. in wartime or when the civilian government no longer functions
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« Reply #398 on: February 14, 2008, 09:46:20 PM »

ala_gunslinger, i have heard of that before. its in the middle of the night here, so i cant call anyone on the phone right now.but i now someone who knows a lot about laws, i can ask him tomorrow (and will).please keep the question in mind, its an interesting one.
i believe the marshall rule applies here too, but just to be sure i will inform about it tomorrow.
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« Reply #399 on: February 14, 2008, 09:47:44 PM »

Here's marshal law, from Encarta:

No results found for  "marshal law"

Multiple Words
The words "marshal law" do not appear together, but you can try a search on the individual words.
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