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« Reply #660 on: February 15, 2008, 09:25:30 AM »

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=oLpRl-OuAsY&feature=related

One person's opinion....possibly the opinion of millions....

Yep.....
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« Reply #661 on: February 15, 2008, 09:26:53 AM »

Is there an official statement from the , um, court?

Is Mos back from vacation?
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« Reply #662 on: February 15, 2008, 09:30:21 AM »

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AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot will not be arrested again for involvement in the disappearance of the American student Natalee Holloway. That its Dutch lawyer Bert the Rooij have heard Thursday night of the common Court of Justice on Curaçao, said the Council man on Radio 1.

Peter R. Freezes reacted disappointed to the pronouncement. "this is of course extremely sour", said the crime reporter, who it finds especially painful for the family of Holloway. "the case has been solved from the journalism side", thus Freeze, in a question conversation with BNR Nieuwsradio.

 

i hope he has some more...
he has to investigate again.

While we are on lineage, does anyone have a photo of Herman the Monster and Joran to show side by side. Me thinks Anita dallied with Herman and produced Joran. And I do apologize to Herman, you are sooooo much more attractive than your son

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« Reply #663 on: February 15, 2008, 09:32:56 AM »



Good Morning Everybody!!  Standing tall for Natalee.
Don't be upset about Juron not being rearrested.  I didn't expect him to be.  Trial is coming.  JMHO

Do not be discouraged

Do not be disheartened

Justice is coming



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Snoopy..... I did not expect URINE to be arrested either.... As for a trial, I wish I had as much confidence about that as you seem to have....Either way URINE's life is going to be a living hell.... He deserves no less..JMO
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« Reply #664 on: February 15, 2008, 09:34:22 AM »

http://news.diario-aruba.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1085&Itemid=30

(Diario ran this with the picture of Joran holding a “fan” of money … )

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Corte Comun a rechaza pa detene Joran       

Friday, 15 February 2008 

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Diahuebs anochi, abogado Joe Tacopina a revela na New York, cu el a ricibi confirmacion cu decision a worde tuma door di Corte Comun di Husticia di Aruba y Antiyas, cu nan ta rechaza e apelacion di Ministerio Publico, pa haya permiso pa detene Joran van der Sloot atrobe.

Ministerio Publico a habri e investigacion di nobo rond di desaparicion di Natalee Holloway, debi na detayenan nobo cu a worde graba den secreto di Joran van der Sloot, unda e ta admiti riba videotape cu Natalee a muri den su brazanan.

Pero aparentemente e tres Hueznan cu a revisa e apelacion, a dicidi cu no tin nada “nobo” cu ta bin dilanti den e recien revelacionnan, y asina a rechaza e peticion.

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corte comun owing to rechaza for detene joran

friday, 15 february 2008

oranjestad (aan): diahuebs night, advocate joe tacopina owing to revela at new york, cu past owing to ricibi confirmacion cu decision owing to worde take door of corte comun of husticia of aruba y antiyas, cu they're rechaza the apelacion of ministerio publico, for achieve permission for detene joran van der sloot again.

ministerio publico owing to open the investigacion of new rond of desaparicion of natalee holloway, debi at detayenan new cu owing to worde graba in secreto of joran van der sloot, where the is admiti on videotape cu natalee owing to die in his brazanan. 

but apparently the three hueznan cu owing to revisa the apelacion, owing to dicidi cu not have nothing “nobo” cu is come fast in the recien revelacionnan, y so owing to rechaza the peticion.

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« Reply #665 on: February 15, 2008, 09:39:19 AM »

 
Grr, I'm so angry I could just spit!  When will those responsible for Natalee's death and disappearance pay???  Let's pray that her remains will be found and speak for her.
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« Reply #666 on: February 15, 2008, 09:40:52 AM »




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« Reply #667 on: February 15, 2008, 09:48:00 AM »


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« Reply #668 on: February 15, 2008, 09:53:37 AM »

Hi Monkeys!
 Even after Joran has confessed to Natalee’s demise, called the Aruban law enforcement “f*cking idiots” and laughed in the face of the Aruban government, the judge has made the decision there will be no re-arrest of Joran. Now, more than ever, we need to unite and fight to get justice for Natalee.

The Boston Travel Show is being held February 22-24. Aruba is a supporting sponsor of this event. We need YOU there. We need to let Aruba know that we will not stand for this type of treatment of an American citizen.  We need to educate travelers on the cover up, corruption, and injustice that abounds on Aruba.

My son and I are driving 12 hours to get there. Six hours into the trip we are picking up fellow Monkey CJ. We have a hotel room in downtown Boston, 1.5 miles from the convention center, for $60 a night through Priceline.com. If I can do this, so can you. If you can only be there for 15 minutes, an hour, a day, we need to unite and stand strong for what we believe.

You don’t have to post here to be a Monkey; you don’t have to read here every day to be a Monkey. To me, the definition of a Monkey is someone who believes in justice for Natalee and all missing people.  Someone who believes that Aruban Government needs to do the right thing and if they don’t they need to suffer the consequences.
I know there are Monkey’s that are closer to Boston than we are. WE NEED YOU THERE!!!

If you are able to join us at the Boston Travel Show, please contact Vicki at JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com for details.

Here is a link for the travel show  http://www.bostonglobetravelshow.com/

WE STAND WITH THE GIRL NATALEE HOLLOWAY!  (If we don't, who will?)
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« Reply #669 on: February 15, 2008, 10:09:21 AM »

Was Natalee Holloway Drugged?

By CHRIS FRANCESCANI
ABC News Law & Justice Unit
Feb. 15, 2008

Medical experts tell ABC News that the description Joran van der Sloot gave of convulsions apparently experienced by Natalee Holloway on the night she disappeared could be consistent with the date rape drug GHB, and not simply alcohol intoxication.

The question has resurfaced after a Dutch undercover documentary aired last week on ABC News in which Van der Sloot, the prime suspect, describes in harrowing detail how Holloway went into convulsions during an amorous encounter on an Aruban beach the night she disappeared.

Doctors and pharmacologists who spoke to ABC said that it's in general unlikely that alcohol poisoning alone could have caused the otherwise healthy Alabama teen to convulse the way Van der Sloot described it to a man who he believed was a friend but who was actually working undercover for a Dutch investigative journalist.

The documentary rapidly revived the dormant case. Aruba's chief prosecutor hailed the work of Dutch journalist Peter R. De Vries, calling the information uncovered "valuable" and "important to the investigation."

Prosecutor Hans Mos said he believes the undercover tapes will be legally admissible in an Aruban court, but a judge late Thursday denied prosecutors' appeal for an arrest warrant, a bid that had been previously denied by a lower court judge, Joe Tacopina, Van der Sloot's lawyer told ABC News.

That means that unless prosecutors develop new information — they have claimed to be receiving dozens of e-mail tips since the documentary aired last week — it will be difficult if not impossible to bring charges against Van der Sloot.

The court ruled that Van der Sloot's admissions on the tape are inconsistent with other evidence and not sufficient to detain him. He has been arrested and released twice since Holloway's May 2005 disappearance.

Aruban prosecutors could not immediately be reached for comment on Thursday's court decision.

Van der Sloot has denied the claims he made on hours of undercover video over the course of several days last month, reportedly telling prosecutors in an interview last week that he made up the allegations because he was high on marijuana. He has also said he was trying to impress Patrick Van der Eem, 34, who was actually working undercover for a Dutch investigative reporter.

Van der Sloot's attorneys have vigorously denied claims from the documentary maker and Aruban authorities that Van der Sloot's damning admissions on the tape are legal proof that he is, in fact, responsible for Holloway's disappearance.

On the tape he said Holloway went into convulsions and then became limp. Fearing she was dead, he claimed on the tapes that he called an unknown accomplice who came and took the body out to sea, where it was dumped overboard about 2 kilometers off the Aruban coastline.

Searches by boats equipped with sonar detection have failed to turn up any evidence of a body off the coast. A private, nonprofit Texas search and rescue team has been scouring the waters off the Aruban coast for the last two months, according to Holloway's father, Dave.


Convulsions 'Consistent' With Date Rape Drug
"If you gave me a choice based on [Van der Sloot's description of the convulsions], alcohol would be lowest on the list and GHB the highest," said Paul Doering, distinguished service professor of pharmacy practice at the University of Florida's College of Pharmacy.

"Chronic alcoholics who suddenly discontinue the use of alcohol can experience convulsions, but it's generally not part of the acute toxic phase of alcohol poisoning,'' Doering said. "When people die from alcohol alone, the levels [of alcohol] get so high that they essentially tell the body's respiratory center to stop. They just stop breathing."

"When GHB [gamma hydroxy butyrate] was at its peak use, 10 years ago, [convulsions] would be a commonly reported thing," Doering said, adding that witnesses to GHB overdoses described a person as "looking like he was dead, and then, scarily, he would start shaking like a mackerel on the deck of a fishing boat."

Doering, like all medical experts who spoke to ABC News, cautioned that their impressions were entirely speculative and that without a body to examine it would be impossible to determine definitively what happened.

Holloway's father, Dave, said he's always suspected that she was given a date rape drug before she disappeared.

"The first thing that was told to me by the lead detective on the case when this first happened was that when you go to Carlos N Charlie's [the nightclub where Van der Sloot said he met Holloway], watch your drink, because people have a tendency to put stuff in them. He even indicated to me that he puts on a presentation at the local schools on a monthly basis, warning students about the dangers of date rape drugs."

Witnesses, police reports and Van der Sloot have described Holloway as being intoxicated at Carlos N Charlie's. Police reports say that Van der Sloot told them he bought her a shot of Bacardi 151 proof rum before the pair retired to a secluded beach on the northwest coast of the island.

Dave Holloway believes that Van der Sloot's self-described decision not to call for medical help when Holloway reportedly began to convulse and then went limp was because he knew doctors would discover the presence of a drug like GHB in the Alabama teen's bloodstream.

"A normal person would have called for medical attention," Holloway said Thursday. "My thought is that GHB would be been found present [in her blood]."

Paul Kolecki, of the emergency medicine department at Thomas Jefferson University's Jefferson Medical College, concurred that in general convulsions were more likely the result of a drug and alcohol combination.

"It doesn't happen with alcohol but with GHB it can happen, " he said. "GHB was used by anesthesiologists back in the '50s or '60s, and they had to stop because they were seeing these convulsions," he said. "To convulse and go limp, GHB is classic for that," he said, adding that other drugs like cocaine and ecstasy can also cause convulsions when mixed with too much alcohol.

But Bruce Goldberger, a toxicology expert and the director of Florida's William R. Maples Center for Forensic Medicine, noted that convulsions could have simply signaled Holloway's death from alcohol poisoning.

"When people die, often times their bodies will seize," he said.


More Than Two Dozen Detectives Chasing Leads
Meanwhile, the investigation into the disappearance appears to be back in full swing, with 25 detectives working the case, compared to just four last month, according to the Dutch newspaper het Algemeen Dagblad, which quotes Aruban authorities as saying they have hired drug experts to evaluate Van der Sloot's claim that he made up the stories he told in the undercover tapes because he was high on marijuana.

The newspaper says that the experts' initial impressions seem to be that drug users generally do not make up stories when they've used drugs.

"That means that Joran's story is most certainly an important supporting piece of evidence in our further investigation," a spokesman for the prosecutor's office told the newspaper. "We are also awaiting reports from experts about the way in which Joran says Natalee Holloway died."

A decision from an Aruban judicial appeals court is expected soon on whether prosecutors have enough new evidence to rearrest Van der Sloot, who spoke with prosecutors for more than two hours last week.


Record Breaking
The documentary had a powerful impact on Holland, according to Peter R. De Vries, the investigative reporter who recorded more than 20 hours of conversations between Van der Sloot and Van der Eem, an ex-con who served a year in a Dutch prison for drug trafficking.

Van der Eem independently targeted Van der Sloot and befriended him, before going to De Vries with his belief that he'd won Van der Sloot's confidence and that the younger man would finally reveal what he knew about Holloway's disappearance.

The documentary broke viewership records in Holland, De Vries said, drawing 7 million of the country's approximately 17 million residents to their televisions. ABC News' "20/20" special on the case also drew record-breaking audiences.

"People in Holland were flabbergasted and shocked and everyone's talking about it," De Vries told ABC News.

De Vries has a history of pursuing Van der Sloot. At the end of a taping of a Dutch television show late last year, Van der Sloot picked up a glass of wine and threw it in De Vries' face, challenging the reporter to promise to apologize to him publicly if his allegations that Van der Sloot was involved in the disappearance were proven false.

But unknown to Van der Sloot, De Vries already had some of the young man's compromising statements about Holloway on tape.

De Vries says he doesn't buy Van der Sloot's defense that he was high on marijuana.

"Everyone who does a little thinking or who has smoked soft drugs themselves at some point, has to realize that Joran's story of the weed cigarettes can't hold up," De Vries wrote on his Web site.


"Joran made elaborate statements during five different car rides, on different days — sometimes with more than a week in between. In every subsequent ride he repeated his confession, and confirmed and expanded them. Not once did he say that he was talking nonsense the previous time because he was under the influence."


Reaction
"It's a big deal here," said Ineke Oomens, 58, who lives in Breda, about 100 kilometers from Amsterdam. "There's a discussion going on whether De Vries was doing a good job, because he had a deal in a car with marijuana and now some are thinking here in the Netherlands that that is not a serious confession [from] Joran. And there is another discussion going on about why is Joran on trial by newspapers and television and why isn't he on trial by the justice system?"

"Some people are now saying, 'this is over for Joran — he can never get a job here [in Holland], he can never have friends here,' which is OK, but we would like now his trial."

Oomens said many of her fellow citizens admire De Vries for what he's done, but still entertain conflicting feelings about the case.

"He has done a good job, because he did what lawyers and the police couldn't do, but it's still a trial by newspapers and television."

Fransje van der Waals, 57, said many of the Dutch people point out that Van der Sloot was raised in Aruba, not in the Netherlands.

"This boy grew up not in the Netherlands he grew up in Aruba and that's a different situation," Van der Waals said. "People think there was too much freedom, not good schools, not enough supervision."

Holloway, Natalee's father, declined to characterize his feelings about Van der Sloot after watching the undercover video. At one point in the tape, Van der Sloot describes "shaking the b--" when she went limp and saying to himself, as Holloway apparently laid lifeless in his arms, "Why does this sh-- happen to me?"

"As you could imagine, as a father, it goes without saying," Holloway began, pausing and seeming to choose his words carefully.

"As anyone would, you're … you're looking for blood," he said. "That's a cold, callous sociopath," Holloway said of Van der Sloot.

"It wasn't easy to watch."

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« Reply #670 on: February 15, 2008, 10:29:24 AM »

"De Vries has a history of pursuing Van der Sloot. At the end of a taping of a Dutch television show late last year, Van der Sloot picked up a glass of wine and threw it in De Vries' face, challenging the reporter to promise to apologize to him publicly if his allegations that Van der Sloot was involved in the disappearance were proven false. "

This is an important point to keep in mind--Joran assaulted PDV, suckered punched him if you will. I have no doubt that we are going to see more fireworks related to the cover-up as the world sees more of this part of the story.
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« Reply #671 on: February 15, 2008, 10:42:19 AM »

Not sure if this is up yet.

http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/080215-holloway-confession

Court ignores confessions in Holloway case
Suspect said he dumped body in oceanby Rob Kievit

15-02-2008

Joran van der Sloot, the major suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance case, will not be rearrested after his recent on-camera confessions. Law court officials on the Dutch Antillean island of Curaçao say that Mr Van der Sloot's secretly filmed statements that he was with the girl when she died, and that he disposed of her body, do not constitute new legal evidence.

Joran van der Sloot being filmed on hidden camera
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The suspect's lawyer, Bert de Rooij, claims that his client intentionally lied to the informer who caught the statements on video tape using a hidden camera in his car.

Bitter
Investigative journalist Peter R. de Vries who televised Van der Sloot's confessions in a nationwide TV programme is disappointed by the Curaçao court's decision. Mr De Vries told BNR Radio that this is a bitter pill to swallow, particularly for the family.

"It highlights the distinction between journalistic evidence and legal evidence. I think that the entire nation has been able to see on TV how this man repeated his confessions on five different days: that he was on the beach [in Aruba] with the girl when she died, that he disposed of her body. He never retracted any of this, in fact he reaffirmed it time after time. It is bitter that this information cannot be used. The only reason for him to get rid of the girl's body is that he did not want the police or anybody else to determine what had happened to her."


Shoes
One of the court's arguments to let Mr Van der Sloot off for the time being is that no new legal evidence has come to light as a result of theTV confessions.

Mr De Vries points out that Mr Van der Sloot said he had thrown away a pair of Natalee's shoes. Earlier he had claimed he had forgotten them on the beach. The investigative journalist is suggesting that these shoes may still be around somewhere on Aruba, and that they might yield some forensic evidence.

Improper
Mr De Vries says that Joran van der Sloot has hindered the legal process of establishing the truth. He also questions the view of the Curaçao court, as expressed by a spokesperson, that Mr Van der Sloot may be suffering from a mental condition. Mr De Vries says:

"It is curious for a court spokesman to say anything about a suspect's mental make-up. As far as I know, Joran van der Sloot has never undergone any psychiatric tests, so the court is apparently speaking on the basis of impressions only. I believe that is improper."

Suspect gone into hiding 
Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. "He's not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reasons to fear that if he goes out he won't make it to the other side of the street."

He was referring to the consequences of the televised confession by Joran van der Sloot broadcast on Dutch television on 3 February. The nearly two-hour show, in which the suspect was filmed by hidden camera, was viewed by seven million viewers more than any Dutch TV programme this century. The undercover operation was the brainchild of Peter R de Vries, the Netherlands' top crime reporter.

Mr de Rooij says that some of the statements Mr Van der Sloot made to Mr De Vries's informer couldn't possibly be true. Referring to a statement by his client that he made a local call to someone on the island of Aruba for help: "The public telephone he said he called from can only be used for international calls."
 
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« Reply #672 on: February 15, 2008, 10:45:52 AM »

"De Vries has a history of pursuing Van der Sloot. At the end of a taping of a Dutch television show late last year, Van der Sloot picked up a glass of wine and threw it in De Vries' face, challenging the reporter to promise to apologize to him publicly if his allegations that Van der Sloot was involved in the disappearance were proven false. "

This is an important point to keep in mind--Joran assaulted PDV, suckered punched him if you will. I have no doubt that we are going to see more fireworks related to the cover-up as the world sees more of this part of the story.


Bladerunner...I had been thinking that the Sloots may sue him, but not sure that they can after assaulting him.
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« Reply #673 on: February 15, 2008, 10:48:25 AM »

Can someone translate this hard hitting piece from diario this morning?

Online Pap translation:

corte comun owing to rechaza for detene joran

friday, 15 february 2008

oranjestad (aan): diahuebs night, advocate joe tacopina owing to revela at new york, cu past owing to ricibi confirmacion cu decision owing to worde take door of corte comun of husticia of aruba y antiyas, cu they're rechaza the apelacion of ministerio publico, for achieve permission for detene joran van der sloot again.

ministerio publico owing to open the investigacion of new rond of desaparicion of natalee holloway, debi at detayenan new cu owing to worde graba in secreto of joran van der sloot, where the is admiti on videotape cu natalee owing to die in his brazanan.

but apparently the three hueznan cu owing to revisa the apelacion, owing to dicidi cu not have nothing “nobo” cu is come fast in the recien revelacionnan, y so owing to rechaza the peticion.
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« Reply #674 on: February 15, 2008, 10:51:57 AM »

Is there an official statement from the , um, court?

Is Mos back from vacation?

I think Mos just got off vacation. (sarcasm)
What a coincidence !!!!!!!!

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« Reply #675 on: February 15, 2008, 10:51:57 AM »

Source: http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/international/5643380/Suspect-in-Natalee-Holloway-case-fears-for-life

Suspect in Natalee Holloway case fears for life
Published: Friday 15 February 2008 08:06 UTC
Last updated: Friday 15 February 2008 08:06 UTC
Hilversum - Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. "He's not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reasons to fear that if he goes out he won't make it to the other side of the street."

He was referring to the consequences of the televised confession by Joran van der Sloot broadcast on Dutch television on 3 February. The nearly two-hour show, in which the suspect was filmed by hidden camera, was viewed by seven million viewers more than any Dutch TV programme this century. The undercover operation was the brainchild of Peter R de Vries, the Netherlands' top crime reporter.

Mr de Rooij says that some of the statements Mr Van der Sloot made to Mr De Vries's informer couldn't possibly be true. Referring to a statement by his client that he made a local call to someone on the island of Aruba for help: "The public telephone he said he called from can only be used for international calls."

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« Reply #676 on: February 15, 2008, 10:54:44 AM »

Hello all monkeys old and new.  Let's just take a step back and think about all this for a minute.  For the first time in over 2 years we are hearing what we have prayed for...corruption.  I am sure DeVries is feeling that old slap in the face as so many of us have before.  He will not be made a fool over this...his entire reputation is at stake.  If I read the Dutch correctly, being made to look foolish is not something they tend to take lightly.  Yes, the wine throwing incident was just the catalyst and now that Joran has skirted the law once again there will be more to come.

I doubt DeVries will let this go...at least we will all be here to help if needed...we can always stir the pot a little if necessary.  Truth is, we all knew Joran had no chance of being arrested...Mos clearly indicated it back in December when he told Greta there wasn't enough evidence.  I know so many of you still hold Mos in high regard, but until he takes these perps to trial I withhold judgement. I am still waiting to see him do something in this case that makes sense.

The corruption and cover up is massive.  We all know this...we have been in this for years now and it's nothing new.  So I say we have won a battle here...one that we have wanted for a while.  Aruba is now associated with the words corruption and cover up all over the world.  People are watching.  Joran can't go back to Aruba because they don't want him...how long can his parents continue to live there?  Eventually everyone will turn on the Sloots.  Nothing short of a murder conviction will get Aruba's tourism and money back.  Aruba is now persona non grata to the world. They have done nothing and due to a few people...now....nothing can be done.  The Dutch have to do something now too....they are linked with the Sloots...it's only a matter of time....something will happen...someone is going to talk...someone is going to give up the truth....we just have to be patient and stand with the girl.  My rant and my opinion for today.
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« Reply #677 on: February 15, 2008, 11:02:50 AM »

Lala's mom,

I agree that the word corruption and coverup attached to Aruba is good, but the window is still small right now and the media is too far behind.

I'm concerned that de vries uses the expression "the case is solved." I'm worried that he said as of yesterday, that from a journalistic perspective it's over.

I'm not happy with these terms. I think only squeezing the family of Paulus, by any means necessary or the Kalpoes, we may be waiting years.

Our own government is not much help.
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« Reply #678 on: February 15, 2008, 11:03:09 AM »




While the resemblance is striking....at least Herman had a heart.
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« Reply #679 on: February 15, 2008, 11:03:35 AM »

Hi Monkeys!
 Even after Joran has confessed to Natalee’s demise, called the Aruban law enforcement “f*cking idiots” and laughed in the face of the Aruban government, the judge has made the decision there will be no re-arrest of Joran. Now, more than ever, we need to unite and fight to get justice for Natalee.

The Boston Travel Show is being held February 22-24. Aruba is a supporting sponsor of this event. We need YOU there. We need to let Aruba know that we will not stand for this type of treatment of an American citizen.  We need to educate travelers on the cover up, corruption, and injustice that abounds on Aruba.

My son and I are driving 12 hours to get there. Six hours into the trip we are picking up fellow Monkey CJ. We have a hotel room in downtown Boston, 1.5 miles from the convention center, for $60 a night through Priceline.com. If I can do this, so can you. If you can only be there for 15 minutes, an hour, a day, we need to unite and stand strong for what we believe.

You don’t have to post here to be a Monkey; you don’t have to read here every day to be a Monkey. To me, the definition of a Monkey is someone who believes in justice for Natalee and all missing people.  Someone who believes that Aruban Government needs to do the right thing and if they don’t they need to suffer the consequences.
I know there are Monkey’s that are closer to Boston than we are. WE NEED YOU THERE!!!

If you are able to join us at the Boston Travel Show, please contact Vicki at JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com for details.

Here is a link for the travel show  http://www.bostonglobetravelshow.com/

WE STAND WITH THE GIRL NATALEE HOLLOWAY!  (If we don't, who will?)



Hi guys,
What would you think about posting this info over at Websleuths?  I am  a newbie there also, but they are a wonderful group of people who also do some amazing things for missing people.  They have a very active Natalee Holloway thread, and I bet they would like to know about this.  If someone here is a veteran member there also, feel free to do so or advise me against it if it is a bad idea.  Just a thought! 
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