Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24/08 -2/27/08

[Nut44x4]

I still think this Marcos' was just another diversion.

[Buckeye]

That goofy Brian Prediction place talks of Natalee and a tattoo. Maybe Angela M., who was hooked on psychics gave a tip to the police.

She is living in a small hotel room near by the club with her boyfriend, and the number 162 in on the door.  She looks nothing like she did before, her hair is very short, spiked and died black.  Her complexion is much darker than it was in the picture above and she has some sort of chain tattoo around her neck.  There is no way anyone could recognize her today from her pictures above...no way...this is way she has not been located.

Sorry, lost link.  Google words, if interested.

[Nut44x4]

Ahhhh yes.....I remember that freak. I have the site saved somewhere. I used to get so angry reading there...drove me nuts.

[Nut44x4]

http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings001.htm

http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/2712.htm

[cubbeegirl]

http://www.sheprofilers.com/joran.html

this is a good review of some of Joran's words from the past.

This is spot on!!!

[2NJSons_Mom]

http://www.briansprediction.com/warnings001.htm

http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/2712.htm

    I, too, had it at one time, and just was in there for a bit...had enough...

[Bearlyhere]

http://www.record-eagle.com:80/features/local_story_055100313.html

Published: February 24, 2008 10:03 am   

Kathy Gibbons: Before girls go wild, watch this
BY KATHY GIBBONS
Local Columnist




The confession of Joran Van der Sloot should be required viewing for any girl heading to Mexico or similar spot for spring break.

Van der Sloot is the Dutch student long suspected in having something to do with the 2005 disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway on spring break in Aruba. Her body was never found.

A Dutch reporter secretly taped Van der Sloot talking about her disappearance in a tale that seemed to fill in all the blanks: she left a bar with him and two of his friends, got dropped off on a beach alone with him, they started engaging in sexual activity, she supposedly went into convulsions and died, and he called a friend to got rid of her body.

He was arrogant, his scorn for her from the get-go clear: "So those b--ches ... they'd already been drinking the entire time ... she came up to me ... so the whore jumped on the bar and she wanted me to take a jelly shot out of her navel and I did it ... she's drunk, really drunk ... I was thinking, I'll just take the girl with me, we'll go ----" And then later, "She really wanted it."

Zero compassion for her. It was all and only about him.

It made me sick when I think of girls and their mind set when they go on these trips. They come out of American towns and cities where, if they drink, it's illegal, on the sly, and normally among friends. They head to unfamiliar places with their "nothing can happen to me" certainty, and where they can drink.

When we went to Mexico with a group of families my daughter's senior year spring break, they were all excited about going to clubs to dance every night. We parents were very much aware of the potential dangers and had a lot of discussion ahead of time. We expected their behavior to be on the same level as it is at home. We also had rules: stay together, and come back together, by a certain time.

Still, it was scary. We would have great days with families together poolside. We'd have dinner together. Then I'd go into internal panic mode when at about 10 p.m., off the kids went, on dark streets, where men with machine guns stood guard at jewelry stores. No cell phones. No one to call if they didn't return.

They pretty much followed the rules. Everyone survived. But as nice as it was, I was glad when the week was over.

Because even the greatest kids don't always make good choices. Throw in alcohol, and it's even worse. Every girl I can think of knows -- as I'm sure a sober Natalee Holloway knew -- that the most unsafe thing a girl can do is go off alone with strange guys, in a foreign country, at night, period, let alone drunk.

Before we went to Mexico, I kept trying to think of ways to impress on my daughter how unsafe this trip could be if she and her friends didn't use their heads. If we were going now, I would have the way. It's at www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_qYrEOdTn0.

What a sobering piece (no pun intended).  This should be shown to girls going away to college that might be tempted to go with someone not affiliated with the campus who just comes in to pick up Innocent girls. 

I think these guys prey on "the innocent"  who grow up in an untainted world.  Natalee was the perfect victim.  So trusting, so happy, involved in a world full of friends that would never hurt her.  It was all good until a predator entered that safe world and she was removed from that cocoon she always knew and trusted, not realizing she had been removed from her safe place, but trusting the world to be a safe place. 

[Bearlyhere]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

Klaas how long was Van der Straten Chief of Police in Bonaire.  TIA  I always wanted to do that.

2 years maybe?  I remember something about it being temporary.

Thanks Klaas.

So they forced him to temporarily retire because of his involvement.  Then he shows up in Bonaire temporarily so he can still keep his eye on what is happening and then his final destination with be the Netherlands where he will eventually be joined by Paulus as soon as Val finishes his senior year.  They will all be together like one big happy murdering family.
Maybe Karin Janssen and Anita will become best buds and she will invite her over for tea and they can discuss what a great job they both did in the cover-up.

Note to KJ watching your tea their might be something in it.

San, your words sent chills up and down my spine.

[2NJSons_Mom]

http://www.sheprofilers.com/joran.html

this is a good review of some of Joran's words from the past.

This is spot on!!!

This comment still grates on my nerves...among others:

17:25 "One day I will explain exactly what happened but right now I don't feel ready to do that."

[martini]

The NA before it became a retirement investment for the baby boomers, attracted mostly criminals or people with a dark past. I know I am reaching again but Marcus Wiggins, a 13 year old confessed to a murder in 1991, the police were accused of torturing him with electric shock. A judge threw out Wiggins' confession out the following year, and the charges were dismissed.
Could this be a relative? A son?

[Observer]

Hello Monkeys!! We had a HUUge day in Boston! We made a huge impact and a major blow to that ATA/Aruban Govt Travel show and them being a major sponsor. We kicked ass and it was all too easy! I have lot's to tell as it was a long day and plenty of action. Met again with Rob Smith for 10 minutes or so as well as 4 other Arubans. He told me three times he admired us for what we are doing but I have something to address with him as he is way over his head and the BS don't fly with us Monkeys!. It would be very embarrassing for him if he talked to me any longer but I respect him for being cordial. Head of security told me one of the Arubans was lying about me handing out info,showing my sweater..etc in the Travel Show as he did it for 2 days trying to get me kicked out. They aren't all good people at that booth and I take it back. At least two are dirtbags.

I am completely exhausted and will try to fill everyone in on all the details on the recording and here in the cage. A very successful day and a big thank you to the fellow Monkeys who came out with me and stood up for Natalee in Boston and those that gave support. It's amazing what we accomplished and I want to tell you all how important these events are after seeing it again today. We are underestimated big time!! Both here and at these shows.

[klaasend]

Hello Monkeys!! We had a HUUge day in Boston! We made a huge impact and a major blow to that ATA/Aruban Govt Travel show and them being a major sponsor. We kicked ass and it was all too easy! I have lot's to tell as it was a long day and plenty of action. Met again with Rob Smith for 10 minutes or so as well as 4 other Arubans. He told me three times he admired us for what we are doing but I have something to address with him as he is way over his head and the BS don't fly with us Monkeys!. It would be very embarrassing for him if he talked to me any longer but I respect him for being cordial. Head of security told me one of the Arubans was lying about me handing out info,showing my sweater..etc in the Travel Show as he did it for 2 days trying to get me kicked out. They aren't all good people at that booth and I take it back. At least two are dirtbags.

I am completely exhausted and will try to fill everyone in on all the details on the recording and here in the cage. A very successful day and a big thank you to the fellow Monkeys who came out with me and stood up for Natalee in Boston and those that gave support. It's amazing what we accomplished and I want to tell you all how important these events are after seeing it again today. We are underestimated big time!! Both here and at these shows.

    Exciting!  Can't wait to hear all the details!

[hotping]

Hello Monkeys!! We had a HUUge day in Boston! We made a huge impact and a major blow to that ATA/Aruban Govt Travel show and them being a major sponsor. We kicked ass and it was all too easy! I have lot's to tell as it was a long day and plenty of action. Met again with Rob Smith for 10 minutes or so as well as 4 other Arubans. He told me three times he admired us for what we are doing but I have something to address with him as he is way over his head. It would be very embarrassing for him if he talked to me any longer but I respect him for being cordial. Head of security told me one of the Arubans was lying about me handing out info,showing my sweater..etc in the Travel Show as he did it for 2 days trying to get me kicked out. They aren't all good people at that booth and I take it back. At least two are dirtbags.

I am completely exhausted and will try to fill everyone in on all the details on the recording and here in the cage. A very successful day and a big thank you to the fellow Monkeys who came out with me and stood up for Natalee in Boston and those that gave support. It's amazing what we accomplished and I want to tell you all how important these events are after seeing it again today. We are underestimated big time!! Both here and at these shows.

Wonderful News *******...I Can't wait to hear more after You have rested Up... 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hello Monkeys!! We had a HUUge day in Boston! We made a huge impact and a major blow to that ATA/Aruban Govt Travel show and them being a major sponsor. We kicked ass and it was all too easy! I have lot's to tell as it was a long day and plenty of action. Met again with Rob Smith for 10 minutes or so as well as 4 other Arubans. He told me three times he admired us for what we are doing but I have something to address with him as he is way over his head. It would be very embarrassing for him if he talked to me any longer but I respect him for being cordial. Head of security told me one of the Arubans was lying about me handing out info,showing my sweater..etc in the Travel Show as he did it for 2 days trying to get me kicked out. They aren't all good people at that booth and I take it back. At least two are dirtbags.

I am completely exhausted and will try to fill everyone in on all the details on the recording and here in the cage. A very successful day and a big thank you to the fellow Monkeys who came out with me and stood up for Natalee in Boston and those that gave support. It's amazing what we accomplished and I want to tell you all how important these events are after seeing it again today. We are underestimated big time!! Both here and at these shows.

 

[Magnolia]

Hello Monkeys!! We had a HUUge day in Boston! We made a huge impact and a major blow to that ATA/Aruban Govt Travel show and them being a major sponsor. We kicked ass and it was all too easy! I have lot's to tell as it was a long day and plenty of action. Met again with Rob Smith for 10 minutes or so as well as 4 other Arubans. He told me three times he admired us for what we are doing but I have something to address with him as he is way over his head and the BS don't fly with us Monkeys!. It would be very embarrassing for him if he talked to me any longer but I respect him for being cordial. Head of security told me one of the Arubans was lying about me handing out info,showing my sweater..etc in the Travel Show as he did it for 2 days trying to get me kicked out. They aren't all good people at that booth and I take it back. At least two are dirtbags.

I am completely exhausted and will try to fill everyone in on all the details on the recording and here in the cage. A very successful day and a big thank you to the fellow Monkeys who came out with me and stood up for Natalee in Boston and those that gave support. It's amazing what we accomplished and I want to tell you all how important these events are after seeing it again today. We are underestimated big time!! Both here and at these shows.

Hot dog!  You did good, *******.  I am waiting for details.

[Blue Moon]

Klaas, priceless.  I bet after this weekend he does feel like he has a monkey on his back

[Nut44x4]

http://www.sheprofilers.com/joran.html

this is a good review of some of Joran's words from the past.

This is spot on!!!

This comment still grates on my nerves...among others:

17:25 "One day I will explain exactly what happened but right now I don't feel ready to do that."

OH ME 2!! AAAARGggggggggggggggggg!! I hate him.

[Blonde]

This is a strange question...but why would the FBI be asking Whatley in her 302 about any tattoos that Natalee may have had?  Does anyone have any idea?

You know how we've talked about Freddy and videos....what if there is a video out there that the FBI has seen but couldn't determine if it was Natalee in the video?

Klaasend maybe for the same reason they kept asking Beth, Dave Jug if  Natalee ever had a history of seizures or epilepsy.
They must have something, and don't know how to bring it in without making their pimps look bad.
Maybe the pimps with their porn pay $$$ to ALE.

[Nut44x4]

The NA before it became a retirement investment for the baby boomers, attracted mostly criminals or people with a dark past. I know I am reaching again but Marcus Wiggins, a 13 year old confessed to a murder in 1991, the police were accused of torturing him with electric shock. A judge threw out Wiggins' confession out the following year, and the charges were dismissed.
Could this be a relative? A son?

What is NA and where did this happen?

[Buckeye]

Hello Monkeys!! We had a HUUge day in Boston! We made a huge impact and a major blow to that ATA/Aruban Govt Travel show and them being a major sponsor. We kicked ass and it was all too easy! I have lot's to tell as it was a long day and plenty of action. Met again with Rob Smith for 10 minutes or so as well as 4 other Arubans. He told me three times he admired us for what we are doing but I have something to address with him as he is way over his head and the BS don't fly with us Monkeys!. It would be very embarrassing for him if he talked to me any longer but I respect him for being cordial. Head of security told me one of the Arubans was lying about me handing out info,showing my sweater..etc in the Travel Show as he did it for 2 days trying to get me kicked out. They aren't all good people at that booth and I take it back. At least two are dirtbags.

I am completely exhausted and will try to fill everyone in on all the details on the recording and here in the cage. A very successful day and a big thank you to the fellow Monkeys who came out with me and stood up for Natalee in Boston and those that gave support. It's amazing what we accomplished and I want to tell you all how important these events are after seeing it again today. We are underestimated big time!! Both here and at these shows.

I'm proud of you, for this, but also for the impact you have had, on the Dutch blogs.
Get some, well deserved, rest......but maybe....after you fill us in....