Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24/08 -2/27/08

[Dihannah1]

OH, I hope the media grabs this info and shares it tonight!  Greta, Nancy, etc.....   Just to bring more attention to "One UNSAFE Island"! 

[kippy]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2083.msg273397#msg273397  Here is a link from "codebreaker" concerning the bird santuary.  I just read a post somewhere ?? yesterday about the bird santuary...the above wasn't the one I was looking for...I'll keep looking.  I seem to recall K2's mom may have worked near there.

Sorry, I read so much stuff yesterday me head was spinning  but I'm sure there was something significant about the bird santuary.

[private eye]

Sunday, November 05, 2006
A new suspect has emerged in the case of Natalee Holloway.

Mark Purcell, the balding rotund hotel employee at the Marriott Hotel in Aruba is the target of Dutch authorities who recently visited Aruba.

Mr. Purcell, who manages the tanning salon at the Marriott is married to the manager of Moombas. Marlene, his wife was recently questioned by Dutch authorities. Natalee Holloway was photographed in Moombas the night before she was murdered by the Van der sloots.

His son Mark Jr. is a bartender at Moombas.

It appears early on in the investigation, Mr. Purcell was found with a large quantity of Rohypnol, commonly known as a date rape drug. When asked about it, he claimed it was for "personal use." His wife backed up that claim, saying "Mark needs it to masturbate."

Purcell has blogged on the subject of Natalee Holloway using the screen name MIP6. He has trashed the Holloway family and Beth Holloway in particular. His activity on a Dutch funded site Blogs for Natalee is part of an effort by the murdering Van der sloot defenders to steer blame away from Joran van der sloot.

Mark Purcell, escaping his bankruptcy in the U.S. had his skin lightened, his belly enlarged and his propencity for lying in hyperdrive all to be accpted by the lowlife Dutch on the island of Aruba. "He kisses more Dutch ass than a drug addict in Amsterdam," said an official in Aruba.

Seems the bloated Mr. Purcell has some very Dutch traits, most notably, thin skin. Like the rest of the cowards in Aruba, he is unhappy with what some are saying about him.

"There was the time at the Marriott's Christmas party when Mark had too much to drink and did his impersonation of the Dutch boy with his finger in the dike. Marlene was unaware that she was to be the dike and was quite surprised by the re-enactment" said a friend.

He is believed to be seeking a transfer to the opening of a new Marriott in Bodie, Nevada.

http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/2006_11_01_archive.html

How can anyone else trash someone whose wife tells the world that he requires rohypnol to maturbate. I think whomever prescribed it for him should have been notified. However, she could have meant he could only maturbate to beautiful young girls who would only undress with him if they were drugged into a coma:) Is Aruba home of the all losers from the US?

[blah]

On another note,

Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends.  I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.

Now isnt that something.  Devries exposes Joran the murderer rapist and he tosses wine in his face.  Patrick exposes Joran using his own words and Joran has him attacked.

So, one can olny assume that the idiot keystone cops in Aruba knew this was going to happen ahead of time.  I mean, being the awesome detectives they are, with an open investigation, all of Jorans communications are tapped and they know everything he is saying to anyone.

Or, are the idiot Aruban cops and Hans Mos - "defender of the rapist" the ones who arranged for the attack?

[Keepthefaith]

On another note,

Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends.  I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.

Would love to know which friends they were!Polis we're obviously close at hand.Does anyone have the full story???

Keepthefaith

[Tamikosmom]

Who is Mark Purcell?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1896.0
Topic: MIP6 and REALITY - are they part of the disinformation team?

[blah]

On another note,

Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends.  I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.

 

Thanks OE.

I hope Patrick is okay. I hope he presses charges.

Oh -- that's right -- the police were involved. Patrick must have jumped himself .

yeah - the cops are probably the ones who arranged the whole thing.

They will write their reports to show that Patrick instigated the whole thing and he is just there causing trouble.  The Aruban police acting as Jorans personal defense team will show how Patrick cannot be trusted and has no credibility.   Cant wait to hear how they spin this crap.

[Tamikosmom]

On another note,

Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends.  I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.

Now isnt that something.  Devries exposes Joran the murderer rapist and he tosses wine in his face.  Patrick exposes Joran using his own words and Joran has him attacked.

So, one can olny assume that the idiot keystone cops in Aruba knew this was going to happen ahead of time.  I mean, being the awesome detectives they are, with an open investigation, all of Jorans communications are tapped and they know everything he is saying to anyone.

Or, are the idiot Aruban cops and Hans Mos - "defender of the rapist" the ones who arranged for the attack?

Why does the prosecution office feel the need to defend Joran van der Sloot against witch-hunts and ... condemns "journalistic investigations"?  Joran has his defence team?  Why does the prosecution office feel the need to provide protection for Joran van der Sloot ... Aruba has a Law Enforcement?
 
Joran van der Sloot has his defence ... law enforcement ... the judiciary and even the prosecution all acting on his behalf.  There does not appear to be one person in Aruba  ... who holds an official position of authority ...  advocating on behalf of Natalee Holloway and her family. 

Janet

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AMIGOE
February 9, 2008

<snipped>

The OM has called on the media in a press release not to launch a witch hunt around the Holloway-case and to abstain from investigations of their own.  “The interest for this case seems to degenerate into a witch hunt, whereby several people are being menaced in an intimidated manner”, is the opinion of justice.  To the OM, these practices are ‘unacceptable’.  People are being marked as suspects without any confirmation and menaced as such with all its consequences.  Besides, other than causing big unrest, journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice.   “Without wanting to harm the value of free press coverage, justice would like the media to be reserved, exactly for the above reasons.”   

“The cameras were all around his house”, informed district attorney Dop Kruimel.  “He had to take on a lawyer for the contact with us.”

If necessary, the OM will also protect the suspect Joran van der Sloot

<snipped>

http://www.amigoe.com/english/



Associated Press
April 13, 2006

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — The parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen who vanished during a high school graduation trip to Aruba, say they oppose moving their civil trial from New York to the Caribbean island because witnesses are too terrified to testify there.
The motion opposing the move, filed by Dave Holloway and Elizabeth Twitty in Manhattan's state Supreme Court, says they "and several other key witnesses in this case have been subject to intimidation, hostility and death threats."http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191599,00.html

[Kermit]

For what avail
the plough and sail
or land , or life
if freedom fail?

Are there any Bird Sanctuarys on Aruba?

[Blonde]

Posted by: private eye How can anyone else trash someone whose wife tells the world that he requires rohypnol to maturbate. I think whomever prescribed it for him should have been notified. However, she could have meant he could only maturbate to beautiful young girls who would only undress with him if they were drugged into a coma:) Is Aruba home of the all losers from the US?

You Kill Me

[klaasend]

Bird Sactuary - TES search - if I remember correctly the area was extreemly muddy like quicksand and difficult to search:

[blah]

On another note,

Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends.  I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.

Now isnt that something.  Devries exposes Joran the murderer rapist and he tosses wine in his face.  Patrick exposes Joran using his own words and Joran has him attacked.

So, one can olny assume that the idiot keystone cops in Aruba knew this was going to happen ahead of time.  I mean, being the awesome detectives they are, with an open investigation, all of Jorans communications are tapped and they know everything he is saying to anyone.

Or, are the idiot Aruban cops and Hans Mos - "defender of the rapist" the ones who arranged for the attack?

Why does the prosecution office feel the need to defend Joran van der Sloot against witch-hunts and ... condemns "journalistic investigations"?  Joran has his defence team?  Why does the prosecution office feel the need to provide protection for Joran van der Sloot ... Aruba has a Law Enforcement?
 
Joran van der Sloot has his defence ... law enforcement ... the judiciary and even the prosecution all acting on his behalf.  There does not appear to be one person in Aruba  ... who holds an official position of authority ...  advocating on behalf of Natalee Holloway and her family.  

Janet

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AMIGOE
February 9, 2008

<snipped>

The OM has called on the media in a press release not to launch a witch hunt around the Holloway-case and to abstain from investigations of their own.  “The interest for this case seems to degenerate into a witch hunt, whereby several people are being menaced in an intimidated manner”, is the opinion of justice.  To the OM, these practices are ‘unacceptable’.  People are being marked as suspects without any confirmation and menaced as such with all its consequences.  Besides, other than causing big unrest, journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice.   “Without wanting to harm the value of free press coverage, justice would like the media to be reserved, exactly for the above reasons.”   

“The cameras were all around his house”, informed district attorney Dop Kruimel.  “He had to take on a lawyer for the contact with us.”

If necessary, the OM will also protect the suspect Joran van der Sloot

<snipped>

http://www.amigoe.com/english/



Associated Press
April 13, 2006

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — The parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen who vanished during a high school graduation trip to Aruba, say they oppose moving their civil trial from New York to the Caribbean island because witnesses are too terrified to testify there.
The motion opposing the move, filed by Dave Holloway and Elizabeth Twitty in Manhattan's state Supreme Court, says they "and several other key witnesses in this case have been subject to intimidation, hostility and death threats."http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191599,00.html

you nailed it Janet!

[blah]

"journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice. "


I believe that journalistic investigations are the only reason this case is still alive.

Journalistic investigations are the only reason there is any evidence in this case.

Scared Monkeys keep them ALL in check!!!

[Kermit]

August 29, 2005
MANSUR: Well, if there is a master plan, we will know about it soon enough.  What I do know is that Freddy was questioned at the beginning with relations to the Natalee Holloway case. He offered an alibi, I believe, to protect Joran.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/



Hannity & Colmes transcript: Friday August 27
Helen: Him (Freddy A) and another detainee in jail right now.



Here are the exact charges against Freddy Arambatziz, according to Vinda de Sousa:

Intentionally distributing sexual images of a minor.
Intercourse with an unconscious person.
Sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years.

[Dihannah1]

One this is for sure.  Peter Devries will cover it and it will at least be all over NL.  Just another thorn for Aruba to deal with.

[Tamikosmom]

Hans Mos' immediately absolved Julia Renfro from the accusations of Castillo and Young with a published public letter but ... proceeded to investigate the dispicable accusations against Natalee ... proceeded to investigate per Rudy Croes instructions.

There was no official statments forthcoming from the prosecutor referring to accusations against against Natalee by Castillo and Young as a witch-hunt.

HANS MOS ... WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD??

Janet

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Amigoe
January 17, 2008

ORANJESTAD — ... The two also say that Natalee had died from an overdose two weeks after the night on the beach with Joran van der Sloot when she disappeared. “Joran is innocent”, said the investigators.

<snipped>

Croes is of the opinion that now that the case against the suspects Joran and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe has brought no results, the Public Prosecution must also consider other scenarios. Castillo and Young’s findings must therefore be seriously investigated, said the minister. “After Beth has been in Oprah’s program, it will be good to tell the other side of the story.” Oprah Winfrey has spent some time on the Holiday-matter in her show yesterday.
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_38773.php


The Lineup
December 2, 2007

As for the second part, yes Beth Holloway came in this morning about 9 o'clock, about 1/2 hour later than expected in a police station in the city Oranjestadt and after which she was put in a conversation with the prosecuting office, Hans Mos and Dop Kruimel After that was finished both the prosecutors left the office or left the police station and by surprise the interrogators came in and (inaudible) by Dolph Richardson the chief investigator, they started interrogating her which lasted for over 5 hours. She left not very happy and wouldn't say anything on camera. She left the police department about 2:30.
Unofficial Transcript


Beth Twitty
DATELINE
February 20, 2008

The three main suspects, Joran van der Sloot, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were rearrested.

Dave Holloway broke his vow and rushed back to Aruba along with Beth for special meetings with prosecutors. They were asked to bring medical records.  To their horror, though, they say they ended up talking not about new evidence but were asked probing questions about Natalee’s character.

Beth Holloway: They kept saying that Natalee, you know, was a drug user … She's never had a history of drug use. She's never been in drug rehab. Yeah, I thought that -- then, they don't have anything. They don't have anything, you know?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/

[martini]

Bird Sactuary - TES search - if I remember correctly the area was extreemly muddy like quicksand and difficult to search:

I don't know~ but I have a feeling there is some important piece here to the puzzle. Can someone please check it out? Thanks!

[Observer]

There does not appear to be one person in Aruba  ... who holds an official position of authority ...  advocating on behalf of Natalee Holloway and her family.  
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That is true We even had this South African ATA member yesterdy who told us it was all in the Dutch hands as they are the ones handling the case not the Arubans. LOL!

[MumInOhio]

I posted this in the shango thread this morning…I had saved it for some reason…

ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT   LILIAN REGINA   MONTANJA   39-F


Freddy's mom is a "Supervisory Director" for the Bubali Sports Club located in Noord. Bubali is also the location of the Bird Sanctuary which has 2 ponds.
Here is the complete name of Freddy's mom: Freddy's mom is a "Supervisory Director" for the Bubali Sports Club located in Noord. Bubali is also the location of the Bird Sanctuary which has 2 ponds.
Here is the complete name of Freddy's mom:

LILIAN REGINA ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT

It appears that she has been married twice. I don't know if Rodriguez or Albert is her maiden name. Since she is listed as being "Dutch" I would think that "Albert" was probably her maiden name....but, I am not sure. Can anybody help me out on this?
I have always thought "Zedan" was Freddy's last name until I found this other info. Could it be his middle name?
You can find this information at:
http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp
Type in: S.C. BUBALI where it says TRADE NAME & then click search.
Posted by: Shelly | Monday, August 29, 2005

LILIAN REGINA ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT
It appears that she has been married twice. I don't know if Rodriguez or Albert is her maiden name. Since she is listed as being "Dutch" I would think that "Albert" was probably her maiden name....but, I am not sure. Can anybody help me out on this?
I have always thought "Zedan" was Freddy's last name until I found this other info. Could it be his middle name?
You can find this information at:
http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp
Type in: S.C. BUBALI where it says TRADE NAME & then click search.
Posted by: Shelly | Monday, August 29, 2005

[private eye]

Posted by: private eye How can anyone else trash someone whose wife tells the world that he requires rohypnol to masturbate. I think whomever prescribed it for him should have been notified. However, she could have meant he could only masturbate to beautiful young girls who would only undress with him if they were drugged into a coma:) Is Aruba home of the all losers from the US?

You Kill Me

I have heard of village idiots before, but I swear I am beginning to wonder is Aruba a colony of village idiots. Who else would even to think to claim that as an excuse for being in possession of rohypnol? The post seemed to imply that he had a large supply versus a prescription, yet I noticed no adverse action was taken as a result.

A satirical masterpiece could not possess enough imagination to have written the characters,lines and the story for this case.

I wish they would have asked his wife if the sex as good for her as it is for him. She apparently is a voyeur:)