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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24/08 -2/27/08 (Read 317767 times)
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cubbeegirl
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: oceanexploration on February 25, 2008, 05:06:52 PM
On another note,
Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends. I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.
Maybe it really didn't happen... it was all just a lie as they were under the influence of a big fat doobie....
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Anybody check for an update from Glenda at RU or other aruban posters for updates?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 25, 2008, 06:43:40 PM
Hans Mos' immediately absolved Julia Renfro from the accusations of Castillo and Young with a published public letter but ... proceeded to investigate the dispicable accusations against Natalee ... proceeded to investigate per Rudy Croes instructions.
There was no official statments forthcoming from the prosecutor referring to accusations against against Natalee by Castillo and Young as a witch-hunt.
HANS MOS ... WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD??
Janet
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Amigoe
January 17, 2008
ORANJESTAD — ... The two also say that Natalee had died from an overdose two weeks after the night on the beach with Joran van der Sloot when she disappeared. “Joran is innocent”, said the investigators.
<snipped>
Croes is of the opinion that now that the case against the suspects Joran and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe has brought no results, the Public Prosecution must also consider other scenarios. Castillo and Young’s findings must therefore be seriously investigated, said the minister.
“After Beth has been in Oprah’s program, it will be good to tell the other side of the story.” Oprah Winfrey has spent some time on the Holiday-matter in her show yesterday.
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_38773.php
The Lineup
December 2, 2007
As for the second part, yes Beth Holloway came in this morning about 9 o'clock, about 1/2 hour later than expected in a police station in the city Oranjestadt and after which she was put in a conversation with the prosecuting office, Hans Mos and Dop Kruimel
After that was finished both the prosecutors left the office or left the police station and by surprise the interrogators came in and (inaudible) by Dolph Richardson the chief investigator, they started interrogating her which lasted for over 5 hours. She left not very happy and wouldn't say anything on camera.
She left the police department about 2:30.
Unofficial Transcript
Beth Twitty
DATELINE
February 20, 2008
The three main suspects, Joran van der Sloot, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were rearrested.
Dave Holloway broke his vow and rushed back to Aruba along with Beth for special meetings with prosecutors. They were asked to bring medical records. To their horror, though, they say they ended up talking not about new evidence but were asked probing questions about Natalee’s character.
Beth Holloway: They kept saying that Natalee, you know, was a drug user … She's never had a history of drug use. She's never been in drug rehab. Yeah, I thought that -- then, they don't have anything. They don't have anything, you know?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/
If you publicly tell a witness that they HAVE TO COME TO ARUBA BY WORK OF LAW, I think that Aruba has taken upon her shoulders the responsibility to ensure that person is protected. Hans my thoughts on you are wavering. You should have anticipated the attack upon Patrick and provided the appropriate protection. And since he was there at your beckoning, your prosecution of the guilty should be agressive and to the fullest extent of the law. The message to the world is anyone who stands for right will be attacked if on Aruban soil. Way to go Aruba. Your pile of shit you are creating for your selves just got a little taller.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: private eye on February 25, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
If you publicly tell a witness that they HAVE TO COME TO ARUBA BY WORK OF LAW, I think that Aruba has taken upon her shoulders the responsibility to ensure that person is protected. Hans my thoughts on you are wavering. You should have anticipated the attack upon Patrick and provided the appropriate protection. And since he was there at your beckoning, your prosecution of the guilty should be agressive and to the fullest extent of the law. The message to the world is anyone who stands for right will be attacked if on Aruban soil. Way to go Aruba. Your pile of shit you are creating for your selves just got a little taller.
I wouldnt put it past Mos to have ordered the attack.
First he threatens arrest, then the guy is attacked. If Mos didnt order it, he at least knew it was going tpo happen. If he truely is investigating, he would have all these punks communications tapped and they would be keeping an eye on them.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: cubbeegirl on February 25, 2008, 06:54:06 PM
Quote from: oceanexploration on February 25, 2008, 05:06:52 PM
On another note,
Patrick was jumped while leaving (or at) a Casino last night by Joran's thug friends. I don't know if he was hurt, but the fight was broken up by the Polis.
Maybe it really didn't happen... it was all just a lie as they were under the influence of a big fat doobie....
Nothing at RU about this and nothing yet on the 24ora site. A rather nasty Aruban posted on the front page something about Patrick gettting kicked out of a casino yesterday. That could mean there was a fight and everyone got kicked out...I don't know.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: blah on February 25, 2008, 07:05:05 PM
Quote from: private eye on February 25, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
I wouldnt put it past Mos to have ordered the attack.
First he threatens arrest, then the guy is attacked. If Mos didnt order it, he at least knew it was going tpo happen. If he truely is investigating, he would have all these punks communications tapped and they would be keeping an eye on them.
Anyone going to Aruba you can count on your Hotel room being tapped and followed if you are involved in this case. It was probably not a chance encounter with Joran's friends but a set up. It was no coincidence when Julia Renfro appeared out of nowhere to tell Beth and Jug that Natalee's body was found and to go to the courthouse for a press conference back in June 2005. She didn't even have a ride.
I noticed Gerald Dompigs Shield Group is not even online anymore. I guess he couldn't get enough business from the cartels,mobs and the big businesses in Aruba for his expertise in terrorism,surveillance,eavesdropping and security. Shame he had so much backing from the Israeli and Aruban Governments. I guess that explains why he is in the running for that high up ALE position I read about. It looks to me like the original cover up team is all slowly falling from grace. I heard that Van Der Straaten will not be given a extension as Police Commissioner in Bonaire and currently has political aspirations in the Antilles.
Out of business already?
www.shieldgroupworldwide.com/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: Dihannah1 on February 25, 2008, 06:42:16 PM
One this is for sure. Peter Devries will cover it and it will at least be all over NL. Just another thorn for Aruba to deal with.
How sad for Patrick. But, yes, this will certainly keep in the news. I wonder if Aruba journalist will report it? Where is Josy???
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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New York and New Jersey monkeys–
we need you for this coming Saturday.
Drive, take a train, subway–just be there!
Natalee needs you! Please show up at the Javitz Center and be
Natalee’s voice. Stand up for Justice! You will be so proud that you did!
You saw the great results in Boston. Now let’s do a repeat in NYC,
the prime market for Aruba's tourism in the US.
STAND UP FOR NATALEE!
JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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February 25, 2008, 07:38:56 PM »
In my research I have never come across anything that implies that Freddy was arrested/detained in connection to the Natalee Holloway case. His detention at the end of August, 2005 was not related to the Natalee Holloway case. It was related to "sexual acta with a girl under the age of 16 years." Natalee Holloway was eighteen years old.
Janet
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Jossy Mansur
'Scarborough Country'
August 26, 2005
DANIELS: Yes. But I just can‘t get away from the fact that the Kalpoe brothers arrested today, Freddy arrested today. It has to mean something. There has to be a master plan here. What are you hearing about that?
MANSUR: Well, if there is a master plan, we will know about it soon enough.
What I do know is that Freddy was
questioned
at the beginning with relations to the Natalee Holloway case. He offered an alibi, I believe, to protect Joran. And then he was released.
And now he‘s arrested as a suspect of selling photographs. Maybe they are aiming to get to him through this photo business back to the Holloway case
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/
Diana Emerencia - Freddy's attorney
Associated Press
August 31, 2005
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ...... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.
Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.
Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.
The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents,
which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared,
she said.
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050831/aruba.shtml
Jossy Mansur
'Scarborough Country'
August 26, 2005
JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, “DIARIO”: What does it all mean?
I mean, what it means is that these three suspects, in one way or another, had something legally against them, so that they could be rearrested.
And the third one, Freddy, was arrested for another case that has no relation whatsoever to the Natalee Holloway case at this point.
Dan Abrams
'The Abrams Report'
August 26, 2005
ABRAMS: We are back with more on this big news out of Aruba that those two brothers, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, long suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway have been taken into custody by the authorities. Prosecutors saying they are once again holding onto the brothers on suspicion of murder and rape.
We‘ve learned that police have arrested a third person today along with the Kalpoes. Freddie Aaron Batiz (ph), a neighbor of Joran van der Sloot‘s, also taken into custody.
Prosecutors say it‘s in connection with another case.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118769/
Vinda De Sousa - Aruban Attorney
Geraldo At Large
August 27, 2005
VINDA DE SOUSA, HOLLOWAY FAMILY ATTORNEY: The official charges again Freddy who is Joran's best friend and neighbour are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor,
intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious
and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years.
Susan Candiotti - CNN Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
August 31, 2005
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, : And then, Nancy, something else was introduced into evidence, that the defense attorneys claim is not new, has been in the file for two months, and they can`t understand what this has to do with Natalee`s disappearance. And I`m a little uncertain about that, as well.
It involves another young man (Freddy) who law enforcement tells me has nothing to do with Natalee`s disappearance,
who took some photographs of a 14-year- old girl, described as of a provocative nature, while Joran supposedly watched, as well as Deepak and a couple other young girls.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/31/ng.01.html
Phil McGraw Disclosure Log
Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 12 June 2005 / 11:05
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Juan Boezem
Description:
witness statement
of Joran van der Sloot's neighbor/friend
Name: loran van der Sloot & Freddy Arambatzis
Date; 13 June 2005118:30
Pages: 2
Writer/lnitiator: Dennis Jacobs I Juan Boezem
Description: transcript of a face to face meeting
Name: Freddy Alexander Arambaizis
Date: 13 June 2005 / 17:00
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator. Johny Erasmus
Description: witness statement
Name: Freddy Alexander Arambatzis
Date: 16 June 2005115:30
Pages: 8
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement
Name: Freddy Zedan
Date:17 Juni 2005
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs, Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement
Name: Freddy Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
Date:28 June 2005 / 14:25
Pages: 11
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly & Haydee Nadal
Description: witness statement
Name: Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
Date: 1 July 2005
Pages: 9
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs & Haydee Azucena
Description: witness statement
Name: Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
Date:20 July 2005
Pages: 4
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs, Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement
Name: Freddy Alenxander Arambatzis
Date: 10 February 2006/17:15
63
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs /Eric Soemers
Description: interrogation of a suspect
Responsive to Request 41
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: ******* on February 25, 2008, 06:46:01 PM
There does not appear to be one person in Aruba ... who holds an official position of authority ... advocating on behalf of Natalee Holloway and her family.
====================
That is true
We even had this South African ATA member yesterdy who told us it was all in the Dutch hands as they are the ones handling the case not the Arubans. LOL!
I really can't think of anyone in an unofficial position in Aruba that advocates on behalf of Natalee Holloway.
We are thinking of taking a cruise. I will never go to Aruba, no matter what happens in the future. I will not even consider a cruise line who stops in Aruba.
Thanks for all you do *******. You too Janet, your posts are always interesting, expressed very well.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: private eye on February 25, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
If you publicly tell a witness that they HAVE TO COME TO ARUBA BY WORK OF LAW, I think that Aruba has taken upon her shoulders the responsibility to ensure that person is protected. Hans my thoughts on you are wavering. You should have anticipated the attack upon Patrick and provided the appropriate protection. And since he was there at your beckoning, your prosecution of the guilty should be agressive and to the fullest extent of the law. The message to the world is anyone who stands for right will be attacked if on Aruban soil. Way to go Aruba. Your pile of shit you are creating for your selves just got a little taller.
My thoughts on Hans Mos being competent or honest, those two character traits tend to get blurred in Aruba, plummeted after his first unsuccessful visit to the island. He came in talking like John Wayne but was toting a cap pistol. I think he was just there for display and had no intentions of prosecuting the case. He never has presented a full case with all the evidence.
Then we he couldn't even get Joran detained with a confession I pretty much figured he was just granting an extension to the cover-up. This guy does not want to prosecute this case nor does Dop Kruimel. They have been shoved to do it kicking and screaming all the way like two kids who got caught stealing bubblegum at the local five and dime.
The only way they will prosecute Joran is if the way-high-ups in Holland mandate it. They are the only ones who can call out the crooked judges and hold the prosecutors feet to the fire. Otherwise we are just going to see more chickenshit action out of Hans and Dop.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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Quote from: JusticeforNatalee on February 25, 2008, 07:36:23 PM
New York and New Jersey monkeys–
we need you for this coming Saturday.
Drive, take a train, subway–just be there!
Natalee needs you! Please show up at the Javitz Center and be
Natalee’s voice. Stand up for Justice! You will be so proud that you did!
You saw the great results in Boston. Now let’s do a repeat in NYC,
the prime market for Aruba's tourism in the US.
STAND UP FOR NATALEE!
JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com
Aruba fohgiddabodit!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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February 25, 2008, 07:51:27 PM »
Quote from: private eye on February 25, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 25, 2008, 06:43:40 PM
Hans Mos' immediately absolved Julia Renfro from the accusations of Castillo and Young with a published public letter but ... proceeded to investigate the dispicable accusations against Natalee ... proceeded to investigate per Rudy Croes instructions.
There was no official statments forthcoming from the prosecutor referring to accusations against against Natalee by Castillo and Young as a witch-hunt.
HANS MOS ... WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD??
Janet
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Amigoe
January 17, 2008
ORANJESTAD — ... The two also say that Natalee had died from an overdose two weeks after the night on the beach with Joran van der Sloot when she disappeared. “Joran is innocent”, said the investigators.
<snipped>
Croes is of the opinion that now that the case against the suspects Joran and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe has brought no results, the Public Prosecution must also consider other scenarios. Castillo and Young’s findings must therefore be seriously investigated, said the minister.
“After Beth has been in Oprah’s program, it will be good to tell the other side of the story.” Oprah Winfrey has spent some time on the Holiday-matter in her show yesterday.
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_38773.php
The Lineup
December 2, 2007
As for the second part, yes Beth Holloway came in this morning about 9 o'clock, about 1/2 hour later than expected in a police station in the city Oranjestadt and after which she was put in a conversation with the prosecuting office, Hans Mos and Dop Kruimel
After that was finished both the prosecutors left the office or left the police station and by surprise the interrogators came in and (inaudible) by Dolph Richardson the chief investigator, they started interrogating her which lasted for over 5 hours. She left not very happy and wouldn't say anything on camera.
She left the police department about 2:30.
Unofficial Transcript
Beth Twitty
DATELINE
February 20, 2008
The three main suspects, Joran van der Sloot, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were rearrested.
Dave Holloway broke his vow and rushed back to Aruba along with Beth for special meetings with prosecutors. They were asked to bring medical records. To their horror, though, they say they ended up talking not about new evidence but were asked probing questions about Natalee’s character.
Beth Holloway: They kept saying that Natalee, you know, was a drug user … She's never had a history of drug use. She's never been in drug rehab. Yeah, I thought that -- then, they don't have anything. They don't have anything, you know?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/
If you publicly tell a witness that they HAVE TO COME TO ARUBA BY WORK OF LAW, I think that Aruba has taken upon her shoulders the responsibility to ensure that person is protected. Hans my thoughts on you are wavering. You should have anticipated the attack upon Patrick and provided the appropriate protection. And since he was there at your beckoning, your prosecution of the guilty should be agressive and to the fullest extent of the law. The message to the world is anyone who stands for right will be attacked if on Aruban soil. Way to go Aruba. Your pile of shit you are creating for your selves just got a little taller.
PI ... I agree.
Hans Mos ... leave the protect of Joran van der Sloot up the Aruba Law Enforcement. The Prosecution's Office should be concentrating on protecting its star witness. In the real world outside of Aruba that is the way it goes ... the prosecutor is an advocate for the victim ... not the suspect.
Something is not right!
Janet
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AMIGOE
February 9, 2008
<snipped>
The OM has called on the media in a press release not to launch a witch hunt around the Holloway-case and to abstain from investigations of their own. “The interest for this case seems to degenerate into a witch hunt, whereby several people are being menaced in an intimidated manner”, is the opinion of justice. To the OM, these practices are ‘unacceptable’. People are being marked as suspects without any confirmation and menaced as such with all its consequences.
Besides, other than causing big unrest, journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice.
“Without wanting to harm the value of free press coverage, justice would like the media to be reserved, exactly for the above reasons.”
“The cameras were all around his house”, informed district attorney Dop Kruimel. “He had to take on a lawyer for the contact with us.”
If necessary, the OM will also protect the suspect Joran van der Sloot
The OM is also of the opinion that yesterday’s words of Justice-minister Rudy Croes were premature. Croes wants to declare Joran van der Sloot persona non grate.
“The boy is not convicted yet
; besides, there are a whole lot of judicial hurdles ahead, before he can be refused admission to Aruba. He is legally admitted anyway”, was the reaction of the OM
<snipped>
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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February 25, 2008, 07:56:02 PM »
Quote from: blah on February 25, 2008, 06:39:45 PM
"journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice. "
I believe that journalistic investigations are the only reason this case is still alive.
Journalistic investigations are the only reason there is any evidence in this case.
Scared Monkeys keep them ALL in check!!!
Exactly Blah, if not for Peter Devries they would not even be working on the case anymore, just had their four dicks sitting around waiting for the phone to ring.
What they meant to say was,
"journalistic investigations have meant we have had to keep the case open and that just pisses us off so much we make stupid statements like this."
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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February 25, 2008, 08:12:57 PM »
Quote from: Dayhiker on February 25, 2008, 07:56:02 PM
What they meant to say was,
"journalistic investigations have meant we have had to keep the case open and that just pisses us off so much we make stupid statements like this."
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yes Dayhiker, i think that is what they really said but someone didnt translate it exactly right
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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February 25, 2008, 08:21:39 PM »
Quote from: martini on February 25, 2008, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: JusticeforNatalee on February 25, 2008, 07:36:23 PM
New York and New Jersey monkeys–
we need you for this coming Saturday.
Drive, take a train, subway–just be there!
Natalee needs you! Please show up at the Javitz Center and be
Natalee’s voice. Stand up for Justice! You will be so proud that you did!
You saw the great results in Boston. Now let’s do a repeat in NYC,
the prime market for Aruba's tourism in the US.
STAND UP FOR NATALEE!
JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com
Aruba fohgiddabodit!
Scared Monkeys might look like monkeys but they are really Gorillas.
LOL, I love this pic. Martini. Very fitting to what the Monkeys are going to do to Aruba. (Imagining that city, is the island)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24 -
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February 25, 2008, 08:22:33 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 25, 2008, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: private eye on February 25, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 25, 2008, 06:43:40 PM
Hans Mos' immediately absolved Julia Renfro from the accusations of Castillo and Young with a published public letter but ... proceeded to investigate the dispicable accusations against Natalee ... proceeded to investigate per Rudy Croes instructions.
There was no official statments forthcoming from the prosecutor referring to accusations against against Natalee by Castillo and Young as a witch-hunt.
HANS MOS ... WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD??
Janet
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Amigoe
January 17, 2008
ORANJESTAD — ... The two also say that Natalee had died from an overdose two weeks after the night on the beach with Joran van der Sloot when she disappeared. “Joran is innocent”, said the investigators.
<snipped>
Croes is of the opinion that now that the case against the suspects Joran and the brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe has brought no results, the Public Prosecution must also consider other scenarios. Castillo and Young’s findings must therefore be seriously investigated, said the minister.
“After Beth has been in Oprah’s program, it will be good to tell the other side of the story.” Oprah Winfrey has spent some time on the Holiday-matter in her show yesterday.
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_38773.php
The Lineup
December 2, 2007
As for the second part, yes Beth Holloway came in this morning about 9 o'clock, about 1/2 hour later than expected in a police station in the city Oranjestadt and after which she was put in a conversation with the prosecuting office, Hans Mos and Dop Kruimel
After that was finished both the prosecutors left the office or left the police station and by surprise the interrogators came in and (inaudible) by Dolph Richardson the chief investigator, they started interrogating her which lasted for over 5 hours. She left not very happy and wouldn't say anything on camera.
She left the police department about 2:30.
Unofficial Transcript
Beth Twitty
DATELINE
February 20, 2008
The three main suspects, Joran van der Sloot, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were rearrested.
Dave Holloway broke his vow and rushed back to Aruba along with Beth for special meetings with prosecutors. They were asked to bring medical records. To their horror, though, they say they ended up talking not about new evidence but were asked probing questions about Natalee’s character.
Beth Holloway: They kept saying that Natalee, you know, was a drug user … She's never had a history of drug use. She's never been in drug rehab. Yeah, I thought that -- then, they don't have anything. They don't have anything, you know?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/
If you publicly tell a witness that they HAVE TO COME TO ARUBA BY WORK OF LAW, I think that Aruba has taken upon her shoulders the responsibility to ensure that person is protected. Hans my thoughts on you are wavering. You should have anticipated the attack upon Patrick and provided the appropriate protection. And since he was there at your beckoning, your prosecution of the guilty should be agressive and to the fullest extent of the law. The message to the world is anyone who stands for right will be attacked if on Aruban soil. Way to go Aruba. Your pile of shit you are creating for your selves just got a little taller.
PI ... I agree.
Hans Mos ... leave the protect of Joran van der Sloot up the Aruba Law Enforcement. The Prosecution's Office should be concentrating on protecting its star witness. In the real world outside of Aruba that is the way it goes ... the prosecutor is an advocate for the victim ... not the suspect.
Something is not right!
Janet
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AMIGOE
February 9, 2008
<snipped>
The OM has called on the media in a press release not to launch a witch hunt around the Holloway-case and to abstain from investigations of their own. “The interest for this case seems to degenerate into a witch hunt, whereby several people are being menaced in an intimidated manner”, is the opinion of justice. To the OM, these practices are ‘unacceptable’. People are being marked as suspects without any confirmation and menaced as such with all its consequences.
Besides, other than causing big unrest, journalistic investigations harm the criminal investigation, said justice.
“Without wanting to harm the value of free press coverage, justice would like the media to be reserved, exactly for the above reasons.”
“The cameras were all around his house”, informed district attorney Dop Kruimel. “He had to take on a lawyer for the contact with us.”
If necessary, the OM will also protect the suspect Joran van der Sloot
The OM is also of the opinion that yesterday’s words of Justice-minister Rudy Croes were premature. Croes wants to declare Joran van der Sloot persona non grate.
“The boy is not convicted yet
; besides, there are a whole lot of judicial hurdles ahead, before he can be refused admission to Aruba. He is legally admitted anyway”, was the reaction of the OM
<snipped>
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
Rudy, you may declare Joran persona non grate. but Joran shows the world that Rudy is his bitch
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This message is for Casa, Hotshot and Klass.....please note my comments under the LCD archive regarding Boston show issues. PS...it is not negative......Its the last comment for the thread...so far
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From what has been said so far, there is no limitation in the pressing of murder charges, what about the lesser charges ?
Is the clock " reset" from the December 2007 redetainment ?
They don't seem to be going to charge the murder, what about the lesser ?
I know there was a statement in December, but with all the festivities from the DeVries show, is that all gone now ?
So, would it have mattered what the DeVries show gave them ?
I am confused as to what legal options MOS has at this point.
Five years from now, they can't lay some lesser charges, can they?
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Quote from: Dihannah1 on February 25, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: martini on February 25, 2008, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: JusticeforNatalee on February 25, 2008, 07:36:23 PM
New York and New Jersey monkeys–
we need you for this coming Saturday.
Drive, take a train, subway–just be there!
Natalee needs you! Please show up at the Javitz Center and be
Natalee’s voice. Stand up for Justice! You will be so proud that you did!
You saw the great results in Boston. Now let’s do a repeat in NYC,
the prime market for Aruba's tourism in the US.
STAND UP FOR NATALEE!
JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com
Aruba fohgiddabodit!
Scared Monkeys might look like monkeys but they are really Gorillas.
LOL, I love this pic. Martini. Very fitting to what the Monkeys are going to do to Aruba. (Imagining that city, is the island)
I agree whole heartedly.... Is the woman he is holding Julia Renroe or Karin ? great visual, I will ask my niece who works for PBS there in NYC if she can send someone to see what we are doing to this weekend, I wish it would hit the headlines so that we have the large audience see that we do not support this travesty.......
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