Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24/08 -2/27/08

[321blastoff]

Wonder if one of urin's thug friends was named daury ??? or if they where involved ???

[Dihannah1]

Wonder if one of urin's thug friends was named daury ??? or if they where involved ???

Welcome to the cage 321blastoff!

You mean Daddy one of the thugs?    Daury=Daddy.....

[Observer]

I just wanted to point out how obvious this guy was from from the ATA as his picture was taken inside the Aruban Booth. This person approached us outside to take our pictures with the signs but we told him no he went ahead and took pics of the signs and other Monkeys anyways.

I asked him if he was from Aruba and he said no. He said Curacao and knew nothing about the Natalee Holloway case or Aruba. He may have taken off his ATA badge but he forgot his blue shirt that all the Aruban helpers wore and a yellow pin that says I love Aruba.. 

[AZSunny]

I just wanted to point out how obvious this guy was from from the ATA. This picture was taken inside the Aruban Booth. This person approached us outside to take our pictures with the signs. We told him no but he took pics of the signs and other Monkeys anyways.

I asked him if he was from Aruba and he said no. He said Curacao and knew nothing about the Natalee Holloway case or Aruba. He may have taken off his ATA badge but he forgot his blue shirt that all the Aruban helpers wore and a yellow pin that says I love Aruba.. 

Unbelivable...did you go in later and introduce yourself?   They all lie, even grownups lie on aruba!

[Dayhiker]

What they meant to say was, "journalistic investigations have meant we have had to keep the case open and that just pisses us off so much we make stupid statements like this."[/b]

yes Dayhiker, i think that is what they really said but someone didnt translate it exactly right 

Hans Less and Crock Kruimel.

[klaasend]

   Closer look at the dude

[Observer]

Unbelivable...did you go in later and introduce yourself?   They all lie, even grownups lie on aruba!

No because that happened at the end of the day sunday and I knew he was from Aruba but I didn't know I had a pic of him.I only introduced myself to Rob Smith as the rest of them knew me from last year. You have to understand the two times I went in I was pulled a side from security and constantly harrased,plus I was needed more outside as we were short on protesters. Before this picture marlee came in and told me that security said he was looking for me to have the state police remove me..lol

Apparently the ATA thought I was some head monkey or something and didn't want me anywhere inside. Probably worried I would catch them lying to the public or something. I know when I first met Rob Smith he was watching very intently on my conversation with the Head of Security. Looking back I must say what a absolute joke that whole harrassment was and lying about me handing out literature inside,showing the Natalee shirt or even having Literature in my pocket. All 100% lies.

[Finbar]

MIP6 - schmuck

Check this link.

Guy seems to defend J2K, but he has a useful graphical map showing the location of cell phones

http://member.telpacific.com.au/rolyroper/NataleeHolloway/page07.htm

From the timeline

1:50AM  Kalpoe lawyer says DK drives towards Calf Lighthouse
1:50AM  Kalpoe lawyer says JVDS & NH dropped off(where?)
2:00AM  Kalpoe computer log on
2:00AM  Neighbor sees Kalpoe washing car 2:00AM-3:00AM
2:30AM  Gardener spots JVDS & ? in DK car
2:40AM  JVDS cell phone at Palm Beach area
3:00AM  NH leaves message "I don't even know these people"
3:00AM  JVDS phone approx halfway home
3:00AM  PVDS ATM withdrawal
3:15AM  JVDS cell phone at home
3:25AM  JVDS tells Greta that he is home at 3:25AM-3:35AM
3:45AM  2nd PVDS ATM transaction
4:00AM  Geraldo states PVDS picks up JVDS and drives home
6:30AM  cell phone in Santa Lucia area

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Headmaster states JVDS late to school and PVDS drove him

Ward's 2nd witness? Time? Place? What did person observe?

2nd NH phone call to Mtn Brook?

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I think the 3:00AM phone call from NH was using JVDS's cell phone. The link above indicates that JVDS's cell phone is halfway home. Close to what restaurant?

There are inconsistencies in Kalpoe lawyer's statements to where his client is located.

The link above thinks he is a smart cookie. His laurels rest when he does not include that J2K could have been switching the (5?) phones and PDA's. Also does not factor in WiFi to make it seem peeps where home when they were only using WiFi to call from another location TO their home computers.

There are 2K brothers. One could have been home and the other playing cell phone games to create alibi. Or both could not have been home and using WiFi to make it seem that they were home.



The timeline is everything.

Fin

Also, the guy in the link does not take into account the gardener's sighting of JVDS & Co. near the pond.

And he whines about people using selective facts in their arguments.

There is something odd about the timeline.

Fin

[Kermit]

Congratulations to all monkeys who supported the Boston Travel Show for Natalee. Your badge of honor is your angel wings. You make us all proud.

[klaasend]

We need to try and find out what this says.  In today's Bondia:

Pg 22
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

[Kermit]

Prosecutor's office spokeswoman Mariaine Croes told FOX News that the third person was a man known as "Freddy" or "F.A.," said to be a friend of Joran van der Sloot, who has been held in the case since June 9.

[klaasend]

Prosecutor's office spokeswoman Mariaine Croes told FOX News that the third person was a man known as "Freddy" or "F.A.," said to be a friend of Joran van der Sloot, who has been held in the case since June 9.

She must have lied...OR...it was a translation error 

[Kermit]

Peter de Vries attacked

[klaasend]

Peter de Vries attacked

Yes Kermit, but that's OLD.  That happened in the NL a while back. 

[JusticeforNatalee]

New York and New Jersey monkeys–
we need you for this coming Saturday.

Drive, take a train, subway–just be there!

Natalee needs you! Please show up at the Javitz Center and be
Natalee’s voice. Stand up for Justice! You will be so proud that you did!

You saw the great results in Boston. Now let’s do a repeat in NYC,
the prime market for Aruba's tourism in the US.

STAND UP FOR NATALEE!

JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com

Aruba fohgiddabodit!

Scared Monkeys might look like monkeys but they are really Gorillas.

LOL,  I love this pic. Martini.  Very fitting to what the Monkeys are going to do to Aruba.  (Imagining that city, is the island)     

   I agree whole heartedly....   Is the woman he is holding Julia Renroe or Karin ?   great visual, I will ask my niece who works for PBS there in NYC if she can send someone to see what we are doing to this weekend, I wish it would hit the headlines so that we have the large audience see  that we do not support this travesty.......

Thank you! Media coverage would be great. The big day is this coming Saturday.
Probably more people will be there in the afternoon. The protest will be in the park across from the Javitz. There will be Natalee signs, etc.  visible.

[Lala'sMom]

Klaas
Caps and I need you in Shango.  Thanks. LOL

[Observer]

Peter de Vries attacked

Yes that is Steve Brown who caesu says is all lies and a enemy of De Vries.

[Finbar]

I am rereading World Journier.

"GVC [Suspect Gottfried van Cromvoirt] was bothering Natalee on Friday night at Carlos N Charlies. She was dancing with another classmate and this guy (GVC) came up behind her and started humping and grinding on her back and groping her body. She turned around and yelled at him to leave her alone so he left."

So, GVC figures into this on several different levels:
1. Security cameras
2. Was involved with official search for Natalee
3. Made an unwelcome advance on Natalee and he was rejected
4. Became a suspect in her disappearance

This guy needs further attention.

Fin

[littletxlady]

Good evening Monkeys 
 I don't quite understand this article. Sorry if this has been posted already.

[klaasend]

Good evening Monkeys 
 I don't quite understand this article. Sorry if this has been posted already.

What article are you referring to??