Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24/08 -2/27/08

[jackb]

Whaaaahahaaaaa Rob!! thanks!!! ROFLOL

I didn't have my camera when I ran into "Deepak"... lmao!!!!

Just take a picture of a money's azz and it will be the same.  LOL  Jack (be Nimble) B.

[ala_gunslinger]

Hi Jo-an, and a belated welcome to you! Those of us who have follwoed the case will remember them pulling the "death threat" bullshit over two years ago when he returned to Holland the first time. I have the article somewhere and will look for it. This is an old ploy and one commonly used by defense attorneys to try to garner sympathy. I am sure this new psychiatric clinic crap is more of the same.

I do hope this means they have inside knowledge he will be sent to trial. The Dutch prosecutor and cops leak like a seive on Aruba, the defense lawyers know everything ahead of time. We saw that last time Joran was arrested and released. They all knew the pre-determined results 2-3 days ahead of time.

As for Hans Less, I have no faith in him whatsoever. He has been nothing but a failure so far. Wimpy dude, no balls. I hope he proves those of us who think he's just another in a long line of bullshitters wrong.

Joran's own attorney thought it was going to trial in June of 06 IIRC. He said so...

Hey Bro! Only way this goes to trial is a pre-determined decree from Holland with a pink slipped aimed at Smid's head. Everything they do is pre-planned, the outcome already in stone, and the Van der Sloots have been the beneficiaries for the past 33 months. Only Holland can reverse the trend.

You are right, they don't take a crap without a plan!

[Magnolia]

Well, I've had my share of "gut feelings" over the last 3 years (in my defense -- I think I have been mostly right.. just unprovable. LOL) -- but I think something BIG is indeed up. I think those trap pics ARE Natalee. I think Joran's sudden "new home" is directly related to this.

I think so too, Wreck/

[caesu]

Well, I've had my share of "gut feelings" over the last 3 years (in my defense -- I think I have been mostly right.. just unprovable. LOL) -- but I think something BIG is indeed up. I think those trap pics ARE Natalee. I think Joran's sudden "new home" is directly related to this.

i hope you are right.
my gut feelings a few weeks ago were totally wrong.
i thought the Peter R. broadcast a week before the visit of the prime minister to aruba was no coincidence.
so i don't trust my gut anymore. 

[JE]

Well, I've had my share of "gut feelings" over the last 3 years (in my defense -- I think I have been mostly right.. just unprovable. LOL) -- but I think something BIG is indeed up. I think those trap pics ARE Natalee. I think Joran's sudden "new home" is directly related to this.

What I find odd is all this news about fabric or dna that is not Natalee's. Why all the fuss?

if the trap were the real deal which i doubt because it is much bigger than the one that was supposedly stolen from the fisherman's huts, why would there be only clothes or cloth in there? Bones etc do not wash out of a cage through those little holes.

[jackb]

More sick kids in Holland.

A 9-year old boy has tortured animals in a petting zoo to death.
He killed a rabbit, a pot belly pig and a couple of chickens and chicks.
Nine years old, N-I-N-E... 

http://www.dag.nl/1061486/Nieuws/Artikelpagina-Nieuws/9-jarige-jongen-blijkt-dierenbeul.htm

Was he by any chance a Sloot spawn?        jack b

[Blonde]

Wow...someone sent me these pictures (anonymously to my email link on the FP of SM) that were posted on another site.  Real clear pictures of the trap and what they thought they saw in it.  Thanks to whoever sent them!

bmp

Man, that last pic sure looks like it could have been her top!

I'm still 9 pages behind....huff...puff....My poor old eyes are seeing things now...in the last photo of the group...I see a pair of tennis shoes...and the square light colored thingie...looks like a large plastic bag to me....oh my...what will I see next....help Mr. Wizard!!!!  BTW...in my resort...I use the giant very thick clear plastic bags for drum liners...the staff call them body bags as a joke....I've found one down in the creek that had been there for years, wedged under some tree trunks...they don't fall apart in the water at all...

 Don't feel too bad,  I see a head I made the picture black & white   look

[SunnyinTX]

joran owing to stay interna in one institute psychiatrico at the netherlands week happen. this owing to stay confirma recientemente via his family cercano. the motibo of this is because joran will owing to "flip" y not was his self more. owing to achieve then necesario for interne for so the achieve the tratamento necesario for mehora his salud. the news here for much not owing to come because; surprise mirando the estado cu vd sloot was inside y the form con the was actua by cu the la achieve his self envolvi in the caso of holloway. one hobendisu edad, pasando dentanto atencion negative so, will can krak cualkier instant. comentarionan cu can owing to hear on the news here, is cu this then not owing to come because; surprise. denpasado end his family wanted owing to dune atencion psychiatrico debi at his actuacionnan molestoso famaliar.a haci several attempt for her go under tratamento of one psychiater. but at all instancia joran self owing to deny this saying cu the do not feel cu the mesterdi one psychiater for atende susupuesto problemanan. com respuesta for eskai the la dicidi of skibi one book of 351 pagina titula " de zaak holloway" cu the la produci cu aid of one journalist female dutch. for joran vd sloot, this was the miho form of therapy possible for her can owing to "deal" cu all thing the la happen y is pasando inside for of day cu the la come across natalee holloway 3 ana happen.

Is anyone able to translate the translation for me??

[Observer]

XVII. Support the Effort
Update: Wed 27-Feb 1245 hrs

Over the past several days, the Persistence has been working with the help of the Aruban police in shallow water. The Police safely escorted boaters out of the area allowing the Persistence to work and maneuver freely.
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/

[Keepthefaith]

Wow...someone sent me these pictures (anonymously to my email link on the FP of SM) that were posted on another site.  Real clear pictures of the trap and what they thought they saw in it.  Thanks to whoever sent them!

bmp

Man, that last pic sure looks like it could have been her top!

I'm still 9 pages behind....huff...puff....My poor old eyes are seeing things now...in the last photo of the group...I see a pair of tennis shoes...and the square light colored thingie...looks like a large plastic bag to me....oh my...what will I see next....help Mr. Wizard!!!!  BTW...in my resort...I use the giant very thick clear plastic bags for drum liners...the staff call them body bags as a joke....I've found one down in the creek that had been there for years, wedged under some tree trunks...they don't fall apart in the water at all...

 Don't feel too bad,  I see a head I made the picture black & white   look

If these pictures weren't relevant why would they not have been sent a long time ago??Dated 12/29/07.Because of the dateline story??Just a thought.

Keepthefaith

[jackb]

i am wondering if he went in voluntarely or is taken in. that makes all the difference.

Hope he didn't damage his grandmaw.  He went to Germany where that POS went who stuffed his wife in a trunk and left the states.  They would not make him come back here for the longest time.  When this is all said and done the US may have him prosecuted for the US in an international court
somewhere. Looks like if an American citizen is drowned after being mal treated wherever in Internationl waters that would make it even more multinational.  Where is that bunch from INTERPOL, anyway.  They are a pretty quiet bunch and use some neat Patrick tactics.  Joran will NEVER be left alone because of this crime and I hope this is a lesson to those who attack Americans.  Your victim may just win the monkey lottery and get the monkeys after the perps sorry self.     jack b

[Spock]

XVII. Support the Effort
Update: Wed 27-Feb 1245 hrs
Over the past several days, the Persistence has been working with the help of the Aruban police in shallow water. The Police safely escorted boaters out of the area allowing the Persistence to work and maneuver freely.
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/

"help of the Aruban Police"

Im skeptical, ALE had probably had divers there before.

[Nut44x4]

Here is Pearl's tranny at BFN
.......thru babelfish translator:

joran vd sloot owing to wordo interna in one institute psychiatrico at the netherlands week happen wednesday,

 27 february 2008 oranjestad – joran vd sloot owing to stay interna in one institute psychiatrico at the netherlands week happen.

this owing to stay confirma recientemente via his family cercano.

 the motive of this is because joran will owing to ‘flip’ and not was his self more.

owing to achieve then necessary for interne for so the achieve the treatment necessary for mehora his salud

The news here for much not owing to come because; surprise mirando the estado cu vd sloot was inside y the form con the was actua by cu the la achieve his self envolvi in the caso of holloway.

one young of his edad, pasando in tanto atencion negative so, will can krak cualkier instant.

comentarionan cu can owing to hear on the news here, is cu this then not owing to come because; surprise.

den pasado end his family wanted owing to dune atencion psychiatrico debi at his actuacionnan molestoso familiar.

owing to haci several attempt for her go under tratamento of one psychiater.

 but at all instancia joran self owing to deny this saying cu the do not feel cu the have to of one psychiater for atende his supuesto problemanan.

 because; respuesta for this the la dicidi of skibi one book of 351 pagina titula “de zaak holloway”, cu the la produci cu aid of one journalist female dutch.

 for joran vd sloot, this was the miho form of therapy possible for her can owing to ‘deal’ cu all thing the la happen y is pasando inside for of day cu the la come across natalee holloway 3 year happen.

[caesu]

Well, I've had my share of "gut feelings" over the last 3 years (in my defense -- I think I have been mostly right.. just unprovable. LOL) -- but I think something BIG is indeed up. I think those trap pics ARE Natalee. I think Joran's sudden "new home" is directly related to this.

What I find odd is all this news about fabric or dna that is not Natalee's. Why all the fuss?

if the trap were the real deal which i doubt because it is much bigger than the one that was supposedly stolen from the fisherman's huts, why would there be only clothes or cloth in there? Bones etc do not wash out of a cage through those little holes.

looking at the photos the trap is open.
so things can flow in and out.
if i look at the photos i can also make it out as the remains of a shark.
a lab has to determine if there are human remains in there.

[Tamikosmom]

Ocean Explorer

I would appreciate if you could provide the Monkey Cage with insight in regards to the above images.

Thank you.

Janet

[Nut44x4]

I am sure that if this were Natalee then the photos whould not be made public out of respect for the family...or at least I would hope they wouldn't be. On another note...at RU today it was said that the photos were first put up at BNH and Robin supposedly asked for them not to be taken from BNH and distributed to other areas. I do not know if this is fact...it is just what I read at RU, so consider the source.

[Tamikosmom]

Quote from: JusticeforNatalee on February 19, 2008, 03:07:18 PM

By the way, our efforts to stand up for Natalee's justice are shaping up well, especially for Boston. Should have a good, strong group if all make it. (Still could use more people the New York event. Small group but need more)

These double protests have resulted in a lot of expenses, so if anyone is inclined to help with a donation, please contact Vicki: JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com

Right now there is a need for more funds for shipping those gorgeous (and attention-getting) banners and signs around and then, ultimately, back to Jamie.

Also, we want to make sure we have enough flyer copies, so funds are needed for that.

So, any help you can provide for these current needs would be greatly appreciated.

I hate to bring it up  and don't want to detract from the Persistence, but the reality is that we need some help.

Thank you so much! Let's all continue the good fight for Natalee's justice!

[klaasend]

Well, I've had my share of "gut feelings" over the last 3 years (in my defense -- I think I have been mostly right.. just unprovable. LOL) -- but I think something BIG is indeed up. I think those trap pics ARE Natalee. I think Joran's sudden "new home" is directly related to this.

What I find odd is all this news about fabric or dna that is not Natalee's. Why all the fuss?

if the trap were the real deal which i doubt because it is much bigger than the one that was supposedly stolen from the fisherman's huts, why would there be only clothes or cloth in there? Bones etc do not wash out of a cage through those little holes.

looking at the photos the trap is open.
so things can flow in and out.
if i look at the photos i can also make it out as the remains of a shark.
a lab has to determine if there are human remains in there.

Exactly and as far as we know the FBI lab has determined that anything that was found EXCLUDED Natalee.

[jackb]

I am still catching up and wanted to bring this forward.
Is there anything to this?

 Anonymous said...
The result is positive for Natalee. The blue barrel has only part of Natalee's remains. Persistence learns the lesions from Joran's confessions. The famililes have been notified. They want to build a full case with the new US government's help. Persistence has received a big donation from a hero treasure hunter. Persistence continues to quest and locate the other dump sites where the rest of Natalee's remains went.

February 26, 2008 2:38 PM

Now we are talking.  Keep us all posted.  Thank you.    jack blue

[Keepthefaith]

I am sure that if this were Natalee then the photos whould not be made public out of respect for the family...or at least I would hope they wouldn't be. On another note...at RU today it was said that the photos were first put up at BNH and Robin supposedly asked for them not to be taken from BNH and distributed to other areas. I do not know if this is fact...it is just what I read at RU, so consider the source.

Appreciate the info...