Natalee Case Discussion #736 2/27 - 2/29/08

[BUCKSHOT]

Paulus has to know by now that this saga will not end as he had once scripted.

Maybe someone could send him some headbands. He may need them to catch the massive amounts of sweat that are likely to be coming from his forehead. He does sweat alot when the pressure is put on him.

Aruba may want to declare a nationwide flood alert.

[BUCKSHOT]

Joran should have taken notes from the Kalpoe brothers...

They seem to follow directions better... Be quiet, stay under the radar, do not bring attention to yourself, and we will take care of the rest.

[klaasend]

Joran should have taken notes from the Kalpoe brothers...

They seem to follow directions better... Be quiet, stay under the radar, do not bring attention to yourself, and we will take care of the rest.

Yep but Joran can't help himself

[BUCKSHOT]

How many closed door meetings are going on in Aruba these days?

The choo-choo train is on the way and most, if not all, know it...

[ala_gunslinger]

Good morning all ya'll.

I forgot to apologize for that Fbomb I dropped last night.  Won't happen again.

[Destiny]

Destiny:



Here's a guy that likes to talk. Some say he is Joran's Godfather. He was a public spokesperson for both Natalee's case and Lorenzo's MJ bust. Worked on Natalee's case as seen in the documents handling the tip line(Jogger)and other duties. Nickname is Papito and towing company that towed the VDS Jeep as Papito towing.

Edwin Comenencia (Papito)
ext: 975/976
(297)527-2974

Back in the saddle this morning....Gotcha *******....Thanks!....my dialing finger is itchin'...I know what that means

[klaasend]

I think this was posted a couple days ago but I'll repost:

Sunday 2nd of March, 2008 Telearuba will show a program called "A day in a Life"

The show will be About Natalee Holloway. It will be Bradcast via Telearuba , Tele Curacao. and ANT TV.

Beside the Live TV cast, it will be transmitted via the radio stations in Aruba TOP FM, COOL FM, and Real FM, on Curacao it will be Direct FM.

Via Internet www.telearuba.aw and the other stations www.promoaruba.aw

There also will be 3 live telephone lines for people to ask question on sunday.

Questions can now be sent to undiadenbida@setarnet.aw and undiadenbida@hotmail.com

also via MAS (SMS) messages 2001

The Pannels are:

Mirna Jansen - Director Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA)
Rob Smith - AHATA

show of pre-recorded interview with Dr. Ryan Peterson of the University of Ariba and Mr. Ruben Croes of Aruba Search and Rescue.

Mr Bob Harms - His Topic will be Crisis Management.

Mr Hans Mos, Ministerio Pulbico (OM)

Show pre-recorded interview with Patric van de Eem / Joran van der Sloot

and a film that was never been shown to anyone made by the Investigators Team (ALE)

[Tamikosmom]

Tv Interview with Hans Mos in Dutch..Can someone please tell us if he says anything interesting?

Hans Mos praat over zaak 'Natalee Holloway'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrrK53GOOA

He talks about the persistence search says they they re looking for a needle in a haystack. He says its a difficult search assuming the needle and haystack even exist. Then he starts to grill the media about interfering with the investigation.
In the last part he talks about how unfair it is that aruba suffers in terms of tourism. Aruba he says is the safest place to vacation in the carribean. He feels it is unfair aruba is beeing punished because they have not solved this one case.

Why is he so worried about tourism he's a magistrate and should be impartial to these things

Thank you *******.  Thank you JE.

Jossy Mansur comprehends the reason that tourism has declined over the past three years.  Hans Mos does not get it!

Janet

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Jossy Mansur
Dana Pletzer Show
October 5, 2007

Mansur:

People thought Beth caused bad publicity for the island, but Beth is not at fault, it is the three suspects. If there's damage to the island it should be on the shoulders of the three suspects.

[Destiny]

Destiny:



Here's a guy that likes to talk. Some say he is Joran's Godfather. He was a public spokesperson for both Natalee's case and Lorenzo's MJ bust. Worked on Natalee's case as seen in the documents handling the tip line(Jogger)and other duties. Nickname is Papito and towing company that towed the VDS Jeep as Papito towing.

Edwin Comenencia (Papito)
ext: 975/976
(297)527-2974

Back in the saddle this morning....Gotcha *******....Thanks!....my dialing finger is itchin'...I know what that means

Just reading to see what's new. 

Destiny and Texasmom, you both rock. 

 

Thanks LilPuma!   

Thank You from lil' ole' me too...

[Destiny]

So far only the gossipy type papers/sites have reported about Joran being in the mental institution, with only Bon Dia as the source.
None of the "serious" papers sites (Volkskrant/NRC/AD/NOS) have mentioned it on their site so far.

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/194921/index.html

Elsevier also. still with Bon Dia as the source.
maybe NRC will bring it too. but i doubt Volkskrant/AD/NOS/Trouw for now.

i hope jvds calls in to Pauw/Witteman this evening. 

You are such a hoot caesu!!!

Having problems with the site so I'm posting with quote...sorry!

Jorans lawyer Bert de Rooij doesn't confirm or deny. He does say that Joran is at the same place he has been since the Peter R. de Vries Show. So maybe he hasn't been in a clinic or maybe he's been there all along or there was just a visit?
Jorans grandmother doesn't know anything about it but hasn't been in contact with Joran, Paul or Anita recently.

Bull hocky!!!  They all LIE!  I was told last night when I called KIA...that Joran was NOT in a mental, nor any other kind of hospital...I think he is running free just like he always has...and he will be in the casinos soon if not already...cuz he MUST party.....he can't stop himself...he NEEDS his juice...he is a sociopath to the max!

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith - I'll work/play around with the photos tomorrow.  Too late for me now tonight 

There are some great ones.On a personal note.Own a few Tanning salons in the northwest.People in the northwest definitley know that there are many other tropical location's to vacation at without supporting Danger Island.This term derives from my younger days as a boy watching the "Banana Splits".I will continue on a daily,monthly,as well as yearly basis to inform my customers that they have choices other than Danger Island.Small sacrifice for such a big loss!Goodnight for now.I pray,but always Keepthefaith.........

Did you watch HR Puffinstuff, too?

Sure did.Great stuff.The Bugaloo's,Land of the lost,Wonder Bug,Dr Shrinker.Only if they could put Joran on Danger Island or let Dr. Shrinker get ahold of him.Wpould be so much fun to watch.

[Magnolia]

Tv Interview with Hans Mos in Dutch..Can someone please tell us if he says anything interesting?

Hans Mos praat over zaak 'Natalee Holloway'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrrK53GOOA

He talks about the persistence search says they they re looking for a needle in a haystack. He says its a difficult search assuming the needle and haystack even exist. Then he starts to grill the media about interfering with the investigation.
In the last part he talks about how unfair it is that aruba suffers in terms of tourism. Aruba he says is the safest place to vacation in the carribean. He feels it is unfair aruba is beeing punished because they have not solved this one case.

Why is he so worried about tourism he's a magistrate and should be impartial to these things

Thank you *******.  Thank you JE.

Jossy Mansur comprehends the reason that tourism has declined over the past three years.  Hans Mos does not get it!

Janet

+++++++++


Jossy Mansur
Dana Pletzer Show
October 5, 2007

Mansur:

People thought Beth caused bad publicity for the island, but Beth is not at fault, it is the three suspects. If there's damage to the island it should be on the shoulders of the three suspects.

[Keepthefaith]

Tv Interview with Hans Mos in Dutch..Can someone please tell us if he says anything interesting?

Hans Mos praat over zaak 'Natalee Holloway'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrrK53GOOA

the text summary in the first seconds summarizes it pretty good.

furthermore mos says:

-he needs evidence to corroborate or disprove joran's confession.
-american press was a big distraction for the investigation from the start.
-aruba is a very safe island and doesn't deserve all the bad attention. 100% of the murder cases get solved on aruba. only this one takes a bit longer.

Sounds like Hans is falling in line with the tourism board.He shouldn't care about anything but justice for Natalee!

Keepthefaith

[Lala'sMom]

Sociopaths are excellent con artists.  They can make you love them while reaching for the dagger to stab you in the back.  Joran has the ability to fool the average therpist, psychologist, or psychiatrist.  If Joran is in any hospital it is not because he has gone over the deep end...he had no place to go...he was already there many years ago.  Should Joran be treated for any type mental illness it is a ploy not to prosecute him...just in case that is on the agenda...as I said before...time served...let's party. ( I hate it when I am right.)

[Destiny]

*******...have called the law offices....went to voice mail...I left no mssg....will only talk when I get a human on line.

Also called Popito's towing...all lines busy...so far....will keep trying....Kia next on list.  Any more?

[ldstlou]

St Louis Stands By The Girl!!!!
We wil be there at the Tourism Convention in a peaceful protest of Aruba WITH the support of the St Charles Police Dept on Sunday March 9th.
They are contacting the Convention Center for us to work out a plan AND making a personal visit to the Aruba Booth to let them know the Police Dept is aware of our presence and as long as we follow the protest plan, they can call them all they want, we will have no problems with the police.
The Captain also said to send Blessings to the Family and if he were allowed, he would be there with us holding up a sign saying Boycott Aruba!!! He is well aware of Natalee's story!!

[Keepthefaith]

*******...have called the law offices....went to voice mail...I left no mssg....will only talk when I get a human on line.

Also called Popito's towing...all lines busy...so far....will keep trying....Kia next on list.  Any more?

Should have some pizzas delivered to all the parties involved from the Monkey Cage.Anchovies anyone???

[Peaches]

St Louis Stands By The Girl!!!!
We wil be there at the Tourism Convention in a peaceful protest of Aruba WITH the support of the St Charles Police Dept on Sunday March 9th.
They are contacting the Convention Center for us to work out a plan AND making a personal visit to the Aruba Booth to let them know the Police Dept is aware of our presence and as long as we follow the protest plan, they can call them all they want, we will have no problems with the police.
The Captain also said to send Blessings to the Family and if he were allowed, he would be there with us holding up a sign saying Boycott Aruba!!! He is well aware of Natalee's story!!

Excellent job.

[Destiny]

*******...have called the law offices....went to voice mail...I left no mssg....will only talk when I get a human on line.

Also called Popito's towing...all lines busy...so far....will keep trying....Kia next on list.  Any more?

OK...hmmmmmmmm...called Kia...Ingrid not in right now...but, KIA administrator I was passed off to after third try...would not give me his name...just kept saying he was a Kia Admin...so...I asked if Joran was on Aruba...he went into a tail spin...stuttering hemming and hawing....said *I can not talk about that...you must talk to someone else about that question*...then asked to put me on hold...then came back and transferred me to a non-english V-Mail....I'll try again later....

[Destiny]

St Louis Stands By The Girl!!!!
We wil be there at the Tourism Convention in a peaceful protest of Aruba WITH the support of the St Charles Police Dept on Sunday March 9th.
They are contacting the Convention Center for us to work out a plan AND making a personal visit to the Aruba Booth to let them know the Police Dept is aware of our presence and as long as we follow the protest plan, they can call them all they want, we will have no problems with the police.
The Captain also said to send Blessings to the Family and if he were allowed, he would be there with us holding up a sign saying Boycott Aruba!!! He is well aware of Natalee's story!!

BLESS YOU!!!!!