Natalee Case Discussion #736 2/27 - 2/29/08

[klaasend]

I was trying 

[Destiny]

I was trying 

I see now that you were....

[Magnolia]

Believe me, I fully understand your feelings.  They're based on history. I agee with you Frank on several levels.

Ocean,
Many of us feel strongly that something is about to explode in Aruba.
Do you get any feeling of that?

[hotping]

I was Trying Too! 

[Dihannah1]

I was trying 

Damn you Klaas, for always being right!   

What the hell would we do without you!

[oceanexploration]

Maybe Mr Schafer can sell the television rights to the remainder of the search to one of the networks so they can raise enough money to finish the search,  and possibly recoup his own money.  Any thoughts?

Welcome to the cage coolhand! I am sure Mr.Schafer,The Family and everyone involved by now has looked at all measures to conclude the mission but your idea is a good one. Hopefully a Ross Perot type as stepped up to the plate so the Persistence can finish what they started.
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This is a very good idea.  We've been working on that for a couple weeks.  I've personally been handling the matter while I was on the east coast last week.  Unfortunately, the Dateline story aired along with Greta and scooped up the remainder of what the press felt was immediately worth reporting on.  I can't blame them.  It's business.  Definitely shot that down though.  Move on.  Deal with it. Stay the course.

[hotping]

I know one thing and that is that Everyone is trying to reach the same goal and that is to bring Natalee Home.....Sometimes We just need to stop and think before We Act.....I Stand With the Girl! 

[AZLady]

It may not have occurred to Destiny and others that pics (real or created) sent to people on the periphery of the case in Aruba might provide fodder for more of the misinformation campaign that we've experienced the past 2 years.  We certainly do not need any more misdirected and misguided people creating false claims to support whatever agenda they espouse.  These false claims might be supported by pics obtained in the same way the man has tried to get Destiny to send pics to him.  We've all experienced the false rumors, claims and even phony pictures in the past that misdirected us down various paths.  Let's not unwittingly contribute to more of this misdirection.  I believe Destiny just wants to help, as we all do, and is feeling the same frustration we all feel over the lack of information.  However, when we get information, we want it to be true and verified.  No more misinformation.

[Tamikosmom]

Oceanexplorer,

I respect the passion behind your words. I'm not sure I share your faith in "authorities" when there is ample evidence that there seems to be no "authorities" representing Natalee. In fact, the reality states that there has been and continues to be a campaign to defend the savages.

I wish I could trust your words, but when you're told in so many ways, so many times to shut up and let "authorities" do their job, well you have to be skeptical.

I think every monkey trusts you and the work you do, but we have seen so many good intentioned people be made to seem naiive when it comes to the depth of corruption with "authorities."

I appreciate the work you are doing, have donated and volunteered, but I will never accept the concept of trusting any Dutch "authority" to find justice for Natalee. Not a single person who is empowered to solve this case has withstood the "media" scrutiny.

And there is a reason for that....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191377,00.html
Dave Holloway
On the Record w/ Greta
August 11, 2006

VAN SUSTEREN: Did the media help or hurt you?

HOLLOWAY: Oh, the media was our best friend. If it hadn't been for the media this thing would have been swept under the table the very first day and we'd have been calling back to Aruba "Have you heard anything? Have you heard anything?" I truly believe that.


http://www.jonesborosun.com/story.php?ID=25809
Beth Holloway Twitty
THE SUN
January 29, 2007

Twitty recalled the first days after her daughter's disappearance and the actions of the Aruban government.

"We did everything we could in looking for her. There was a government coverup, and it has been documented," Twitty contended.

[Dihannah1]

Maybe Mr Schafer can sell the television rights to the remainder of the search to one of the networks so they can raise enough money to finish the search,  and possibly recoup his own money.  Any thoughts?

Welcome to the cage coolhand! I am sure Mr.Schafer,The Family and everyone involved by now has looked at all measures to conclude the mission but your idea is a good one. Hopefully a Ross Perot type as stepped up to the plate so the Persistence can finish what they started.
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This is a very good idea.  We've been working on that for a couple weeks.  I've personally been handling the matter while I was on the east coast last week.  Unfortunately, the Dateline story aired along with Greta and scooped up the remainder of what the press felt was immediately worth reporting on.  I can't blame them.  It's business.  Definitely shot that down though.  Move on.  Deal with it. Stay the course.

We will continue to pray for the funds and your success no matter what.  God will take care of it.  You are too close to just let it go, as I'm sure you very well aware of!   Keep doing what your doing, YOU AND THE CREW ARE the ultimate American Heroes and will be blessed.  You KNOW the Monkeys stand behind you and will do whatever in there power possible!

[oceanexploration]

Believe me, I fully understand your feelings.  They're based on history. I agee with you Frank on several levels.

Ocean,
Many of us feel strongly that something is about to explode in Aruba.
Do you get any feeling of that?

Fortunately, I'm in a position where I don't have to rely on feelings.  Unfortunately I cannot comment.  I don't know what will happen in Aruba.  I just know what has and what is.  I guess we'll see.  Sorry to speak in vague nonsensical terms. 

[FaithMS]

I really didn't want to respond to all this but I feel I must. 

Please stop...and carefully think things through here.  You know who I mean.

WHAT do you think you are doing?  What do you seriously think you are going to accomplish with the pics?  Don't you even think to consider for a second that we the search team, who found the trap, supervised it's sampling, recorded that video and others... are ensuring the situation is in proper hands and being taken care of appropriately and completely?   

You are not helping anything by interfering with what you do not fully understand.  Please let the authorities do their jobs without interference.   

Robin should never have posted those pics because of the stir they would cause.  She trusted (mistakenly) people's ethics on a private forum.  One of the reasons (among many) that this case has taken so long to solve is because of the Internet, media, and well intended partially-informed people's ambitions and agendas.  Stay out of business you don't belong in.  You all know I am an ally both in the field and on the net.  I have done my best to both bring success to this case and to keep people informed and updated with what information should be provided.  We the search team have worked extremely hard over a long time.  Many of you have as well.  Let's not let our frustrations get the best of us.  Let us not let our emotions interfere with what we know to be true, and let us not forget who we are and what jobs we have to do.  Let those who are responsible do their jobs.

 The damage was already done when Robin posted them on BNH into the hands of many questionable people. Robin went to the dark side long ago. You may not be aware of this.

[AZLady]

Ocean, thank you for speaking in factual terms.  I appreciate that you do not speculate. 

[Destiny]

It may not have occurred to Destiny and others that pics (real or created) sent to people on the periphery of the case in Aruba might provide fodder for more of the misinformation campaign that we've experienced the past 2 years.  We certainly do not need any more misdirected and misguided people creating false claims to support whatever agenda they espouse.  These false claims might be supported by pics obtained in the same way the man has tried to get Destiny to send pics to him.  We've all experienced the false rumors, claims and even phony pictures in the past that misdirected us down various paths.  Let's not unwittingly contribute to more of this misdirection.  I believe Destiny just wants to help, as we all do, and is feeling the same frustration we all feel over the lack of information.  However, when we get information, we want it to be true and verified.  No more misinformation.

AZLady...Thank You for any compliment you may have given to me in your post....but that said...I have given much thought to every post...and, every call I have made....yes, I had been made fun of in some posts...but, I knew that would happen...but, the point I am makeing here is...i did my homework, when it comes to ANYTHING I post...

[Magnolia]

Believe me, I fully understand your feelings.  They're based on history. I agee with you Frank on several levels.

Ocean,
Many of us feel strongly that something is about to explode in Aruba.
Do you get any feeling of that?

Vague is OK with me.  Thank you for answering.

Fortunately, I'm in a position where I don't have to rely on feelings.  Unfortunately I cannot comment.  I don't know what will happen in Aruba.  I just know what has and what is.  I guess we'll see.  Sorry to speak in vague nonsensical terms. 

[Dihannah1]

I really didn't want to respond to all this but I feel I must. 

Please stop...and carefully think things through here.  You know who I mean.

WHAT do you think you are doing?  What do you seriously think you are going to accomplish with the pics?  Don't you even think to consider for a second that we the search team, who found the trap, supervised it's sampling, recorded that video and others... are ensuring the situation is in proper hands and being taken care of appropriately and completely?   

You are not helping anything by interfering with what you do not fully understand.  Please let the authorities do their jobs without interference.   

Robin should never have posted those pics because of the stir they would cause.  She trusted (mistakenly) people's ethics on a private forum.  One of the reasons (among many) that this case has taken so long to solve is because of the Internet, media, and well intended partially-informed people's ambitions and agendas.  Stay out of business you don't belong in.  You all know I am an ally both in the field and on the net.  I have done my best to both bring success to this case and to keep people informed and updated with what information should be provided.  We the search team have worked extremely hard over a long time.  Many of you have as well.  Let's not let our frustrations get the best of us.  Let us not let our emotions interfere with what we know to be true, and let us not forget who we are and what jobs we have to do.  Let those who are responsible do their jobs.

 The damage was already done when Robin posted them on BNH into the hands of many questionable people. Robin went to the dark side long ago. You may not be aware of this.

Welcome Faith!  I've questioned her intentions awhile ago, as some others have as well.  It's sooo sad, as she needs to be standing by her man and an missing girl, the daughter of her husband.  But I won't go there.  I better stop now.

[oceanexploration]

well goodnight and god bless you all.  I'll try to do better on maintaining the blog.  It's been a little hectoc around here.  I'll keep you posted.  Litterally.
~K

[texasmom]

Capslock Rocks! 

I AGREE!!!!   

[AZLady]

It may not have occurred to Destiny and others that pics (real or created) sent to people on the periphery of the case in Aruba might provide fodder for more of the misinformation campaign that we've experienced the past 2 years.  We certainly do not need any more misdirected and misguided people creating false claims to support whatever agenda they espouse.  These false claims might be supported by pics obtained in the same way the man has tried to get Destiny to send pics to him.  We've all experienced the false rumors, claims and even phony pictures in the past that misdirected us down various paths.  Let's not unwittingly contribute to more of this misdirection.  I believe Destiny just wants to help, as we all do, and is feeling the same frustration we all feel over the lack of information.  However, when we get information, we want it to be true and verified.  No more misinformation.

AZLady...Thank You for any compliment you may have given to me in your post....but that said...I have given much thought to every post...and, every call I have made....yes, I had been made fun of in some posts...but, I knew that would happen...but, the point I am makeing here is...i did my homework, when it comes to ANYTHING I post...

Destiny, I don't doubt that you have done your "homework" regarding your posts.  My post is not concerning your research but speculates on what could happen in the future should information be supplied to those on the Aruban fringes.  I base this on what we have seen in the past.  The Aruban tendency has been to twist and misdirect the public.  I wouldn't want any of us to inadvertently contribute to that or make it possible.

[Dihannah1]

well goodnight and god bless you all.  I'll try to do better on maintaining the blog.  It's been a little hectoc around here.  I'll keep you posted.  Litterally.
~K

Goodnight and God Bless YOU!  Keep us as updated as possible, keeping in mind our emotions and preventing us from speculating   (keep us grounded)