Natalee Case Discussion #736 2/27 - 2/29/08

[EURobert]

Latest news! Joran apparently is out again! He's spotted on a beach in Aruba!
http://tinyurl.com/35tuoc 

[caesu]

So far only the gossipy type papers/sites have reported about Joran being in the mental institution, with only Bon Dia as the source.
None of the "serious" papers sites (Volkskrant/NRC/AD/NOS) have mentioned it on their site so far.

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/194921/index.html

Elsevier also. still with Bon Dia as the source.
maybe NRC will bring it too. but i doubt Volkskrant/AD/NOS/Trouw for now.

i hope jvds calls in to Pauw/Witteman this evening. 

[Observer]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

Any of his buddies could be doing that as cover.I mean really,like Beth said,"Look what they've done"..

Your right..Could be anyone logging into his myspace.

I was checking out the pimps at tagged..Here's Kawish's Model stare again
 


Jorans Page
http://www.tagged.com/mypage.html?uid=6528653

Michael Dompig
http://www.tagged.com/mypage.html?uid=9836727

[Bearlyhere]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

I agree.  He is on there now talking to Noelle.

[caesu]

Third room found at Jersey home
   
On Saturday, the remains of a child was discovered on the premises, which is at the centre of abuse allegations.

Search teams are digging turf which they believe may have been disturbed.

More than 160 people have called police to say they were abused at the home.

Previously, 17 MPs from all parties had tabled a Commons motion accusing Jersey officials of "concealment" in failing to deal with the problem.

However, the States of Jersey's Chief Minister, Frank Walker, has denied any cover-up in tackling the allegations.

Ex-minister, Senator Stuart Syvret, has claimed previous abuses were mishandled and urged the UK government to use independent judges for any court case.

In a statement made to the States of Jersey - the equivalent of the UK's parliament - Mr Walker spoke of a "dark cloud" hanging over the island, following news that police were investigating 27 cases of child-abuse.

The remains are thought to date from the early 1980s. Police have not said whether they are male or female.

The investigation involves the abuse of boys and girls aged between 11 and 15, since the 1960s.

He also claims caning was commonplace and elder children could be put into isolation for up to 24-hours.

"It wasn't a children's home, it was a children's prison," he told BBC News.

Island's 'culture of secrecy'
by Julian Joyce
BBC News

Stuart Syvret says Jersey's elite have tried to silence him.

The local politician who highlighted the issue of abusive childcare practices on Jersey has accused the island's establishment of a "culture of concealment" and of frustrating efforts to help vulnerable children.

Stuart Syvret, a former health and social security minister on Jersey before he was dismissed last year, said that abuse against island children had been allowed to continue in what he termed a "secretive one-party state".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/jersey/7263474.stm

did you read about that massive cover-up abuse scandal on the British island of Jersey?

another classic example of island cover-up secrecy it seems.

[Bearlyhere]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

Any of his buddies could be doing that as cover.I mean really,like Beth said,"Look what they've done"..

Could be that, too.  He sure has a friendly home page.  Seems to really love and respect women:   

"friends only!!!!!! no stupid chicks who think they're hot stupid fake tan bullshit or anything. im not looking for random people here! "

[Bearlyhere]

Third room found at Jersey home
   
On Saturday, the remains of a child was discovered on the premises, which is at the centre of abuse allegations.

Search teams are digging turf which they believe may have been disturbed.

More than 160 people have called police to say they were abused at the home.

Previously, 17 MPs from all parties had tabled a Commons motion accusing Jersey officials of "concealment" in failing to deal with the problem.

However, the States of Jersey's Chief Minister, Frank Walker, has denied any cover-up in tackling the allegations.

Ex-minister, Senator Stuart Syvret, has claimed previous abuses were mishandled and urged the UK government to use independent judges for any court case.

In a statement made to the States of Jersey - the equivalent of the UK's parliament - Mr Walker spoke of a "dark cloud" hanging over the island, following news that police were investigating 27 cases of child-abuse.

The remains are thought to date from the early 1980s. Police have not said whether they are male or female.

The investigation involves the abuse of boys and girls aged between 11 and 15, since the 1960s.

He also claims caning was commonplace and elder children could be put into isolation for up to 24-hours.

"It wasn't a children's home, it was a children's prison," he told BBC News.

Island's 'culture of secrecy'
by Julian Joyce
BBC News

Stuart Syvret says Jersey's elite have tried to silence him.

The local politician who highlighted the issue of abusive childcare practices on Jersey has accused the island's establishment of a "culture of concealment" and of frustrating efforts to help vulnerable children.

Stuart Syvret, a former health and social security minister on Jersey before he was dismissed last year, said that abuse against island children had been allowed to continue in what he termed a "secretive one-party state".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/jersey/7263474.stm

did you read about that massive cover-up abuse scandal on the British island of Jersey?

another classic example of island cover-up secrecy it seems.

Oh those poor kids.  They are out of there now, aren't they?   

[Tater]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

Any of his buddies could be doing that as cover.I mean really,like Beth said,"Look what they've done"..

Your right..Could be anyone logging into his myspace.

I was checking out the pimps at tagged..Here's Kawish's Model stare again
 


Jorans Page
http://www.tagged.com/mypage.html?uid=6528653

Michael Dompig
http://www.tagged.com/mypage.html?uid=9836727

Now that picture is just butt ugly!!! I'd be screaming for  if I even passed one of them on the street..

[IBE]

Holland and Aruba = would of, should of and could of but didn't!

[Tater]

So far only the gossipy type papers/sites have reported about Joran being in the mental institution, with only Bon Dia as the source.
None of the "serious" papers sites (Volkskrant/NRC/AD/NOS) have mentioned it on their site so far.

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/194921/index.html

Elsevier also. still with Bon Dia as the source.
maybe NRC will bring it too. but i doubt Volkskrant/AD/NOS/Trouw for now.

i hope jvds calls in to Pauw/Witteman this evening. 

You are such a hoot caesu!!!

[caesu]

Third room found at Jersey home
   
On Saturday, the remains of a child was discovered on the premises, which is at the centre of abuse allegations.

Search teams are digging turf which they believe may have been disturbed.

More than 160 people have called police to say they were abused at the home.

Previously, 17 MPs from all parties had tabled a Commons motion accusing Jersey officials of "concealment" in failing to deal with the problem.

However, the States of Jersey's Chief Minister, Frank Walker, has denied any cover-up in tackling the allegations.

Ex-minister, Senator Stuart Syvret, has claimed previous abuses were mishandled and urged the UK government to use independent judges for any court case.

In a statement made to the States of Jersey - the equivalent of the UK's parliament - Mr Walker spoke of a "dark cloud" hanging over the island, following news that police were investigating 27 cases of child-abuse.

The remains are thought to date from the early 1980s. Police have not said whether they are male or female.

The investigation involves the abuse of boys and girls aged between 11 and 15, since the 1960s.

He also claims caning was commonplace and elder children could be put into isolation for up to 24-hours.

"It wasn't a children's home, it was a children's prison," he told BBC News.

Island's 'culture of secrecy'
by Julian Joyce
BBC News

Stuart Syvret says Jersey's elite have tried to silence him.

The local politician who highlighted the issue of abusive childcare practices on Jersey has accused the island's establishment of a "culture of concealment" and of frustrating efforts to help vulnerable children.

Stuart Syvret, a former health and social security minister on Jersey before he was dismissed last year, said that abuse against island children had been allowed to continue in what he termed a "secretive one-party state".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/jersey/7263474.stm

did you read about that massive cover-up abuse scandal on the British island of Jersey?

another classic example of island cover-up secrecy it seems.

Oh those poor kids.  They are out of there now, aren't they?   

it is now a youth hostel.
but they are digging up more cellars as we speak.
dogs reacted to corpses scents.

a while ago they found bones together with children's toys.
but then the said then it were animal bones...

[Tater]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

Any of his buddies could be doing that as cover.I mean really,like Beth said,"Look what they've done"..

Could be that, too.  He sure has a friendly home page.  Seems to really love and respect women:   

"friends only!!!!!! no stupid chicks who think they're hot stupid fake tan bullshit or anything. im not looking for random people here! "

It should read,"Only small intelligent blonde and blue eyed chicks need apply for friend status"..Freak..

[GBMW]

So far only the gossipy type papers/sites have reported about Joran being in the mental institution, with only Bon Dia as the source.
None of the "serious" papers sites (Volkskrant/NRC/AD/NOS) have mentioned it on their site so far.

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/194921/index.html

Elsevier also. still with Bon Dia as the source.
maybe NRC will bring it too. but i doubt Volkskrant/AD/NOS/Trouw for now.

i hope jvds calls in to Pauw/Witteman this evening. 

You are such a hoot caesu!!!

Having problems with the site so I'm posting with quote...sorry!

Jorans lawyer Bert de Rooij doesn't confirm or deny. He does say that Joran is at the same place he has been since the Peter R. de Vries Show. So maybe he hasn't been in a clinic or maybe he's been there all along or there was just a visit?
Jorans grandmother doesn't know anything about it but hasn't been in contact with Joran, Paul or Anita recently.

[Nut44x4]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

I agree.  He is on there now talking to Noelle.

Noelle is rumoured to be Obscene ...oops... Obscuregawdess  from RU...the chick in her 30's w/ 4 kids that adores Joran. She also thinks quite highly of herself, as well. New picture of herself at least weekly on her profile.

[private eye]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

I agree.  He is on there now talking to Noelle.

At least he finally came out of the closet. He states is is not looking for hot chicks. Maybe him and Guido tied the knot

[private eye]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

I agree.  He is on there now talking to Noelle.

Noelle is rumoured to be Obscene ...oops... Obscuregawdess  from RU...the chick in her 30's w/ 4 kids that adores Joran. She also thinks quite highly of herself, as well. New picture of herself at least weekly on her profile.

So Joran only likes hoes who have been ridden hard many many miles and put up wet. I see the pattern, Glenda was his first,,,,,,,,,no wonder he didn't care for Natalee. A virgin, young, intelleigent, beautiful, friendly, and articulate, girl,,,,,,,,everything not desired in a woman by Joran and Aruba,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh but that sick bastard pervert of a father, Paulus, what is it that your teeny weiny liked so much? You sweated the sweat of the guilty, you chattered the fear of the guilty, you squirmed the shame of the guilty, because you are the guilty pervert in all of this. You need to keep your special poppa love to yourself, and spare your children and their friends. And Udder, you need to polish those "toxic titties" and try to distract poppa from that special love. You only have 2 more children and such a tiny yard, poppa is going to have to change his taste.

[Silverfox]

It says Joran logged in yesterday to his Myspace. I'M guessing that he is not in a straight jacket and in lock up 

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88422124

I agree.  He is on there now talking to Noelle.

Noelle is rumoured to be Obscene ...oops... Obscuregawdess  from RU...the chick in her 30's w/ 4 kids that adores Joran. She also thinks quite highly of herself, as well. New picture of herself at least weekly on her profile.

So Joran only likes hoes who have been ridden hard many many miles and put up wet. I see the pattern, Glenda was his first,,,,,,,,,no wonder he didn't care for Natalee. A virgin, young, intelleigent, beautiful, friendly, and articulate, girl,,,,,,,,everything not desired in a woman by Joran and Aruba,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh but that sick bastard pervert of a father, Paulus, what is it that your teeny weiny liked so much? You sweated the sweat of the guilty, you chattered the fear of the guilty, you squirmed the shame of the guilty, because you are the guilty pervert in all of this. You need to keep your special poppa love to yourself, and spare your children and their friends. And Udder, you need to polish those "toxic titties" and try to distract poppa from that special love. You only have 2 more children and such a tiny yard, poppa is going to have to change his taste.

Methinks perhaps joran solicited the chicks for his papa...which is what this cover-up is all about...LOL... and, you might perhaps learn something by studying the html of his myspace page...maybe?  What is the urchin tracking thing all about?  does he want to know who is looking at his page?  and what an intersting profile pic he has, right?  he is still laughing...

laughing because he thinks he has insolated papa... right?  think about it...

[Peaches]

And it's still only been reported in Bondia and nowhere else.

 

How'd you get that so quick??Find the picture where Chief is taking murphy outta the ward and put Paulus head on chief and Jorans head on Murphy now that would be a classic for the cage art collection.Would last a lifetime!!!Good work Klass...


Keepthefaith

Haven't found that one yet 

I LOVE that movie.  Classic Nicholson, Danny DeVito.... seen it several times.

[BUCKSHOT]

In my opinion, Joran is still very upset at getting duped by Patrick. It would
not surprise me that he can not get past the damage he has done. He can
not forgive himself this time for screwing up. It will eat him alive.

The path (to walk) was paved by all those who sought to cover this up.
Joran would have walked with minimal damage, secrets would have stayed concealed, peripheral players would have remained anonymous...

Joran knows deep down inside that he has screwed this all up and has
no one to blame, except himself. As a result of his own indiscretion, he has
done major damage to himself, both directly and indirectly.

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/02/28/is-joran-van-der-sloot-in-a-psychiatric-hospital-in-the-netherlands/

Is Joran van der Sloot in a Psychiatric Hospital in the Netherlands?