Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 - 3/1/08

[texasmom]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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[klaasend]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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Wow, that was sort of quick? 

Edited to add:  What I mean is there was just a media blitz about needing donations and I know there were many emails sent from BFN and SM members.  Just seems like they didn't wait to see if donations would be coming in.

[Bearlyhere]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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It is with great sadness that I read this post.  I am going to trust the monkeys and my own feelings that something good is about to happen.  When a door is closed, God opens a window.  I pray the window will open wide and not be painted shut.  What a sad day for Natalee's parents.

[Anna]

Remember Kyle said they would be cutting internet service at midnight last night.  Was sort of expecting it after he posted that.

[wreck]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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Wow, that was sort of quick? 

maybe because they already found what they were looking for........................................

[hotping]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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Wow, that was sort of quick? 

Yep! Pretty Darn Quick! Something's Up???? 

[Rob]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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TERRIBLE NEWS!!! but thanks for bringing it over Anna.

Thank you to Kyle, John and all of the crew that gave so much of themselves to see Justice done and Natalee returned to her parents.

[Nut44x4]

Sorry if this has been posted today, I am still catching up. This is a rough tranny of an article posted today at>
http://www.crimesite.nl/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6547

It had almost escaped to our attention that Joran of of the ditch in
the crazy person house have stopped. At least that claims order dia, a
newspaper on Aruba. The newspaper bases himself on a source from the
surroundings of Joran of of the ditch. Its family denies the
prerecording. Da's of course not strange do that she had denying
because so far they have denied everything what is but slightly with
their zoon and trade and range walk.
The newspaper further weet to communicate that he would be crazy and
the threats, crazy hè, him surplus would become. Poor gives birth. He
then nevertheless would mensch of vleesch und blood be?

Interestingly it is, however, if it bulletin is correct. Temeer
because he are seen calendar age, however, very criminal adult to last
has acted and has reacted. Then now nevertheless what have been at
last cracked in that cut to waste spirit of him? Perhaps we must have
been offered Patrick of of the Eem nevertheless grateful for all that
jointjes. It has been confessed, and that can confirm the experts, who
smoke dope for the mental zwakkeren under our, as a catalyst works and
not seldom to mental decompensatie leads.

Waiting is now on leaking the zielenknijpers who US Joran on the bank
certainly and permanently large secret trying diddle where about a
beetje everyone has kept itself since the drive of Joran and Patrick
busy. Because he carries with that terribly secret with itself even
the largest boerenlul will become, however, clear. In any case is wait
what all of where and that there white smoke is from the psychiatric
institution will take off so that the hoofdcapo of the arubaanse
justice the releasing words ' we got him ' can pronounce.
~~~

Perhaps one of our nice Dutch posters can go to the link above and give us a clearer translation?.....Thanks in advance, if you can.

[hotping]

Remember Kyle said they would be cutting internet service at midnight last night.  Was sort of expecting it after he posted that.

Kyle was Here Earlier this Morning... about an hour or so ago..     

[CapsLockWizard]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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Wow, that was sort of quick? 

I tought they had data to put in the computer for Analysis, sound strange. maybe they are just have somting but can not do it in Aruba Waters

[hotping]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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Wow, that was sort of quick? 

maybe because they already found what they were looking for........................................

Maybe! Seems to be a Good Possibility! 

[San]

Tamikosmom Do you think you can come to my home and organize my life?  If I could pull out what I needed with the speed you do, I would certainly become a high paid organizer.  You are so talented.

To all the monkeys  Sometimes the days are long and the nights are longer.  Thanks for being there for Natalee, her family, the rest of us monkeys, and anyone who wants to see justice done.  It is beautiful to see how the monkeys carry each other when one of our members is down or hving trouble.  There have been so many heartaches for those in the cage and I'm afraid if I mention some, I will be leaving others out.  You know who you are.

Helping is hard for some, but for the residents of the cage, it is all in a days work.

Some ideas may seem impossible to others but that might just be the idea that triggers another idea in someone else and then triggers another idea in someone else and then triggers the answer that is needed. 

The only idea that is not of any help is the one that is kept inside.

Sometimes I giggle when someone asks a question and the answer is misunderstood and takes on a life of it's own.  It reminds me of that 'Country Time' commercial (Time it's half past).  Every time someone misunderstands the original poster, they come up with a fact that someone else might not know.  This in turn triggers another piece of the puzzle clicking into place for other monkeys or monkey watchers.

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.  Monkeys stand tall, always.

Do you guys rock or what???????????

 

[Anna]

Remember Kyle said they would be cutting internet service at midnight last night.  Was sort of expecting it after he posted that.

Kyle was Here Earlier this Morning... about an hour or so ago..    

Maybe midnight tonight.  Not sure what hour it was when he posted that.  And he can possibly access from internet cafe or hotel, etc. 

[texasmom]

Remember Kyle said they would be cutting internet service at midnight last night.  Was sort of expecting it after he posted that.

Kyle was Here Earlier this Morning... about an hour or so ago..     

I noticed that too, but no comment from him.  Like I said there was one page I couldn't get to load (27) but I went back to his last posts, and he said nothing.

I agree with Klaas, if funding was the problem, they didn't give that much time to come through.

 

[Tamikosmom]

In the letter, Minister Croes promised that the Dutch agents will get all the cooperation from the investigating-team and the management. Also in the letter it appears that the Minister also made an official request to the Interpol to review the dossier. "As requested by the PG, the Interpol is asked to try to get hold of the not yet released informations by the FBI", wrote the Minister.

FBI know the truth
They don't lie
You can count on it.

Thanks Kermit.  Aruba has been dying to get their hands on the information the FBI has.

Kermit, when was this letter from Croes sent?  Was this recently done??

(try this again...sorry)

AUGUST, 2006

http://antillen.nu/content/view/1349/143/

Nederland helpt met zaak-Holloway
     
ORANJESTAD (25-08-06) - Nederland stuurt binnenkort op eigen kosten agenten om de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway te onderzoeken. Het Korps Landelijke Politie Diensten in Nederland (KLPD) gaat op verzoek van minister van Justitie Rudy Croes (MEP), Aruba helpen met de zaak van de Amerikaanse tiener. Croes heeft ook Interpol gevraagd het dossier grondig door te lichten, aldus de Amigoe.

Ruim een jaar geleden verdween Holloway tijdens een schoolreis. Al die tijd is gewerkt aan de zaak, zonder dat een spoor van het meisje is gevonden. Een week geleden heeft minister Croes een brief gestuurd aan Den Haag met een verzoek om hulp. Hij hoopt dat met politieassistentie vanuit Nederland er sneller een oplossing komt voor het onopgeloste raadsel. 'Aruba leeft mee met de ouders en naaste familie, ondanks de negatieve campagne die tegen het eiland is gevoerd', schrijft Croes in de brief.

Het verzoek is gedaan aan minister Johan Remkes (VVD) van Binnenlandse Zaken en de minister voor Koninkrijksrelaties, Atzo Nicolaï (VVD). De KLPD zal naar aanleiding van het verzoek de volledige leiding over het opsporingsonderzoek krijgen. Politiebeambten van het Nederlandse korps komen bovendien speciaal over om de zaak te onderzoeken. Nederland zal ook de kosten betalen die zijn gemoeid met de inzet en het verblijf van deze agenten op Aruba. Verder krijgen ze hier de beschikking over een eigen locatie van waaruit ze aan de zaak kunnen werken. De politieambtenaren mogen een wapen dragen en gebruiken, en krijgen opsporingsbevoegdheid. Ook worden ze voorzien van de relevante gegevens uit het dossier-Holloway en krijgen ze toegang tot alle informatiesystemen.

In de brief belooft minister Croes dat de Nederlandse agenten de volledige medewerking krijgen van de (opsporings-)autoriteiten en het bestuur. Uit het schrijven blijkt dat Croes ook een formeel verzoek heeft gedaan aan Interpol om het dossier op oneffenheden door te lichten. 'Op verzoek van de procureur-generaal tracht Interpol inmiddels de nog niet door de FBI (Amerikaanse federale politie, red.) vrijgegeven data in de zaak boven tafel te krijgen', schrijft de minister in de brief.

Het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) bevestigt op de hoogte te zijn van het verzoek, maar benadrukt dat het niet afkomstig is van procureur–generaal Theresa Croes–Fernandes Pedra, maar van de minister van Justitie zelf. Hij zou Interpol in juli om hulp hebben gevraagd, toen hij een bezoek bracht aan het hoofdkwartier van de internationale politieorganisatie in de Franse stad Lyon.

Het OM is ook op de hoogte van de samenwerking tussen de korpsen uit Nederland en Aruba en meldt dat dit op politieniveau is geregeld en er geen verzoek vanuit het OM is gedaan. 'Het strafrechtelijk onderzoek in de zaak-Holloway staat nog open. Indien de Nederlandse politie hulp kan bieden, zijn ze zeker welkom', aldus voorlichter Mariaine Croes.(bron Amigoe) 

[AZSunny]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

.

Wow, that was sort of quick? 

I tought they had data to put in the computer for Analysis, sound strange. maybe they are just have somting but can not do it in Aruba Waters

From the statement above, it doesn't sound like the search was completed, or could be completed.  I am sad.  I do hope they found something.

[klaasend]

Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:





    Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »   

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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home.  As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.  There are many many targets for the ROV to look at.  Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.  The main reason is the lack of funding.  This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult.  John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided.  Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

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LegallyLex edited the post above with this:

I don't know what to say! Everyone has tried.  I urge you to continue to try to obtain donations so that a boat and ROV can go back and dive all the targets that the Persistence has collected.  The feelings that John and the crew have are so mixed right now.  I can only imagine... In any event, please continue with trying to get donations for the finishing of this search.  I know I am... I will not give up.

Thanks everyone! You are the best!

[AZSunny]

Thanks Janet.  You are always there with an answer! 

[AZSunny]

Posted by Kyle this morning?????

0915 hrs

Since the 16th of December, off the west coast of Aruba the search team on board the RV Persistence has been combing the sea floor of an area 80% the size of Aruba. The Herculean side scan sonar search is complete. With a complete picture of entire search area's seabed, a final ROV dive target list will be constructed. This list is expected to well-exceed 100 targets. The timing and extent of the remaining ROV dive operations depends on weather, logistics, and funding.
The team is weary, yet filled with a sense of accomplishment. The team has performed very well even under the intense pressure, difficult terrain, rough seas, and often grueling pace.

[Sue]

quite frankly I cant believe with all the connections the family
has and has made through this , that funding hasnt come forward
John Ramsey himself could write a check right now for the rest of the whole
search