Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 - 3/1/08

[Rob]

Shar - it was the 48 hours program and we do not have that video posted any longer. It was in a bucket that was closed due to copy right issues. Carpe probably still has it and could prolly repost it if I asked. I hate to bother him with this though. I'm sure there is a transcript around somewhere.

Rob -- don't bother Carpe. I'm sure I can find the transcript -- or references to it in 'cache' on the net somewhere .

I also remember Meri posting (blogging?) somewhere about Dompig's 48 Hours comments -- and the Raytheon November 2005 information. I can visualize the headline. lol. My research is so lame  And my memory is beginning to follow. 

I'll probably be able to find it later 

Shar - here are Meri's commentaries.

http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/search/label/Meri%27s%20Commentaries

[Bladerunner]

The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.

This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO

Ditto....wonder if Dateline has an exclusive on the ...rest of the story...

Well, you know my opinion -- I'm still heartened by how OE responded to me yesterday. He said in response to my "already have Natalee theory"

I like the way you think, wreck

To me -- that was totally out of character for him to put any "credence" in anyone's speculation.

That raised my eyebrows for dam sure. You don't make those kind of subtle hints in a situation of such seriousness as this. That to me was a clear signal that the truth is right before our eyes. 

[Rob]

The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.

Again, I am a bit stunned, but I would like to thank the searchers and all on board the Persistence for everything they have done...may you have a safe voyage home.

Hi ya Nut 

you know, we have the best analytical minds on the net right here.... and from what I'm reading, not one poster can make any sense of this.

But boy o boy - I like the way wreck thinks . . . too

[Nut44x4]

Thank you Jo An for the translation on the previous page

[wreck]

Late last night, Klaas made some comment like 'it sure seems like they are about to up and leave.'

[Destiny]

Thank you Jo An for the translation on the previous page

Thanks from me too Jo An...you be one Rockin' Monkey!!!

[Rob]

wait a sec here....

The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.

The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.

It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.

any one following me here?

[klaasend]

Late last night, Klaas made some comment like 'it sure seems like they are about to up and leave.'

I was getting sent emails again yesterday that said they were packing up and leaving.  I didn't want to post until there was confirmtion from someone else although I believed it to be true. 

[Tater]

I hope the FBI drags in Koen and thrashes him about alittle bit.He knows what the truth is and he is on this side of the water so access is sure enough...Reports say he is living on the outskirts of Atlanta which isn't very far from me....Crack him and we get the goods and finally the truth...Why shootfire,could be they already have...

[martini]

Valero Refineries/ Petroplus/ Mapping the ocean floor

My guess is pipeline. 

[Sea Searcher]

The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.

This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO

Ditto....wonder if Dateline has an exclusive on the ...rest of the story...

SeaSearcher,

Not to worry, it is always posted here if it appeared in the media compliments of Carpe.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9.180

Look around Replies 193, 194.  There is likely even a transcript of the program as well.

Thanks for the link Anna...video's were really interesting and that cage looks to be
more like 9' x 9' x 3' +/-  The story seemed to cut short as if there was nothing in the
cage.

At the risk of backlash..does anyone else see a pair of sneakers in 2 of the pictures ?
Maybe someone has already said this..
I don't like to speculate mush without some facts but that is what jumped right out
at me as soon as I looked at them..Ive looked and zoomed and looked again...still
looks like sneakers to me

Thanks again Anna

YES...YES...YES!!! I saw sneakers too...that's why I was asking so many questions about Urine's shoes last night   I also saw a leg bone protruding out from the end of what I *think* is a large clear..now whitish plascit bag...when I posted this...that's when OE posted we should not be discussing what we *think* we see...that it would render true analysis of the photos by *experts* invalid in some way....JMOO

I remember that Destiny..it's so hard to tell in these photos but they sure jumped out at me.
Much more clearly than the ones in the Aruba-Bay pic's but if the cage was only 4 x 5 then
what I see as sneakers would have to be baby shoes..
I agree with a poster that said everyone picks out certain shapes better..like in the clouds
so I was hoping that someone else also saw them.

Perhaps Wreck's theory is correct..and I agree that oceans statement regarding it
was encouraging...I hope so..

[Destiny]

I hope the FBI drags in Koen and thrashes him about alittle bit.He knows what the truth is and he is on this side of the water so access is sure enough...Reports say he is living on the outskirts of Atlanta which isn't very far from me....Crack him and we get the goods and finally the truth...Why shootfire,could be they already have...

Tot...we should get together for lunch sometime    We be neighbors!

[Tater]

wait a sec here....

The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.

The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.

It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.

any one following me here?

No but I sure am trying Rob...

[Tater]

I hope the FBI drags in Koen and thrashes him about alittle bit.He knows what the truth is and he is on this side of the water so access is sure enough...Reports say he is living on the outskirts of Atlanta which isn't very far from me....Crack him and we get the goods and finally the truth...Why shootfire,could be they already have...

Tot...we should get together for lunch sometime    We be neighbors!

I'd love too!!!! Klaas,would you please send Destiny my email address?Destiny,I want to tell you what I see that is oh so weird in those pic's....

[Destiny]

wait a sec here....

The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.

The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.

It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.

any one following me here?

No but I sure am trying Rob...

Here's my *shot in the dark*...Rob, as Wreck feels...so do I.  I think they are leaving because the search has accomplished it's goal....that all data from that search has been verified by the FBI...and who knows else...now they have to scoot out of Dodge with the goods, before the bad guys come runnin' in claiming we stole their goodies...

[private eye]

Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?

And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.

Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.

[Blonde]

wait a sec here....

The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.

The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.

It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.

any one following me here?

YES , so maybe they got something new now, I hope.

[Nut44x4]

wait a sec here....

The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.

The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.

It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.

any one following me here?

Hi Rob  .....I think so  , but I still have a bad feeling in my tummy 

[Rob]

wait a sec here....

The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.

The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.

It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.

any one following me here?

No but I sure am trying Rob...

Tot, I think I confused myself too. But anyway - the crew has been on Aruba for two months since the photos were made (which is part of a video). They must have been doing other searches and Kyle told us they were during the weeks and months that followed.

If they knew for a fact that was Natalee all the way back at the end of December they would have left then. But they didn't. They are leaving now. After the tests were announced. For some reason they stopped the mapping and checked this specific target. They put the ROV in the water to look closer. Normally they would map and then put the ROV in and look at multiple targets. Not this time. Or so it seems anyway.

[Destiny]

I hope the FBI drags in Koen and thrashes him about alittle bit.He knows what the truth is and he is on this side of the water so access is sure enough...Reports say he is living on the outskirts of Atlanta which isn't very far from me....Crack him and we get the goods and finally the truth...Why shootfire,could be they already have...

Tot...we should get together for lunch sometime    We be neighbors!

I'd love too!!!! Klaas,would you please send Destiny my email address?Destiny,I want to tell you what I see that is oh so weird in those pic's....

I can't wait to *share* points of view with you Tot...yes...I *saw/see* a lot of things in those photos too...