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« Reply #900 on: March 01, 2008, 09:59:31 PM »

FYI For what it's worth....
Obscuregawdess (Noelle) at RU who talks with Joran says:
Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:24 am   

FWIW. Joran is not in Holland or Aruba. Nowhere people might guess. So, believe me or not... He is not in a psychiatric centre. He's avoided publicity and ventured off, and it's people taking guesses and passing rumor as fact that keep people going... Don't believe me. If word ever gets out where he really is, as people are busy bodies and spies, they'll find out and realize I am not FOS. 
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He's somewhere he would stand out in a crowd. Let's just say that. When the nosy ass media catches wind of it, I am sure you will find out. I'm not doing you any big favirs because I have respect for people that trust me. I just wanted to clear the record so that the BS stops in regards to rumors about him... He's not even in Holland and not in a psychiatric center.
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heard his voice crack hard when he came on P&W via the phone.. anyway, I don't mind assuming he's in the ward just for arguments sake while he might actually be chasing chicks on a tropical island or something..
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Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:51 am
Funny, but nope...  Neither of those. I just wanted to dispute the rumors because they aren't true. Wherever he is though, he deserves to be safe and needs to be out of the spotlight.
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Safe and sound actually.

Merrily continuing his studies at one of the many international sister schools of Arnhem Business School's reciprocal programme. Believe he is at the Technische Universität für Sport und Deliciousness in Graz, Austria at this time: http://info.tusd.ac.at/  (I tried this link, it does not work for me)
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Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:52 am
I beleive they got the location wrong... but maybe they were "supposed to." I don't know.
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France?

Germany?

UK?

Italia?

Greece?

Belguim?

Switzerland?
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Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:54 am

I will say none of those. Like I said, I just hate the rumors. However, they spark interest in all of us, and this case is going nowhere right now... so what better to do than talk about the people involved and get the latest "juice"?
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Perhaps a Drug Rehab?
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Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:23 am
No, he is not in a drug rehab. Go ahead and disbelieve me, but that'll be your choice. Eventually, the truth will come out... and you'll see. He's not in a damn drug rehab!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Or a psychiatric hospital/center. He has not flipped... but believe whatever you'd like. He is safe and sound and nowhere anyone would guess... I think that's what's important.
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  You miss him don't you Guido?  Well, maybe you can share a prison cell together if Bib Bubba doesn't call dubs on either one of you.
What I am wondering is why is Joe Tapioca pudding head so quiet.  Maybe he will take Joran home and keep him until prison time; since he believes in him so much.
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« Reply #901 on: March 01, 2008, 10:00:58 PM »

Air Force Two
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The Boeing C-32, a variant of the 757, is the usual transportation for the Vice President of the United States.
Vice President Dick Cheney using a Boeing VC-25 presidential aircraft for a visit to the Middle East in 2002.Air Force Two is the air traffic control call sign used by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the Vice President.[1] The term is often associated with a Boeing C-32, a modified 757 which is most commonly used as the Vice President's transport. The C-40 Clipper, a version of the Boeing 737, also serves in this role. Although the U.S. Marine Corps carry the primary mission for helicopter support of both the President, Marine One, and Vice President, Marine Two, UH-1N Twin Huey helicopters from the Air Force's 1st Helicopter Squadron are also used to support the Vice President in the Washington, D.C. area under the callsign Air Force Two.

During the buildup to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney made his first overseas trip in office. For the March 2002, 10-day, 12-country whirlwind trip throughout the Middle East, Cheney used the VC-25A, a Boeing 747, that is typically reserved for the President. The aircraft used the call sign Air Force Two. Cheney's last time on the aircraft was over a decade before when he served as George H. W. Bush's Defense Secretary. [2][3]

I didn't realize until I read wikipedia that there are actually 2 replica 747's that they use for AF1! Back in the early 90's a co-worker of mine (a Captain in the Naval reserve) took me to Andrews AFB and we saw AF1's hanger. Impressive!
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« Reply #902 on: March 01, 2008, 10:01:08 PM »

If Aruba claimed that a DEA agent ruined the inveatigation, imagine what they could say about a head of state.  I don't think it is Cheney and if it should be, that it would be related to the disappearance of Natalee.  JMO but I think wrong branch of government, Condi Rice would be more appropriate or someone from Dept of Justice. 

But since Dompig said Vice President Cheney, I do think it would be hilarious if he were to show up on their doorstep, lol!     I have no doubt that Dick Cheney is perfectly capable of scaring ALL of them.     And badly at that.
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« Reply #903 on: March 01, 2008, 10:02:04 PM »

Jack,

Taco doesn't believe in anyone but himself.    I wonder how he feels about Cheney??   


Something is a brewing.....I feel the steam...
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« Reply #904 on: March 01, 2008, 10:04:04 PM »

I think he is still there sniffing his grannies panties like the real man that he wants the boys to think he is. Hey Joran here is a joint. Come talk with me big guy. Camera's. where, your just paranoid. Now can you lean up and speak into that visor for me:) What an idiot and an ass can you be chump

Next you are going to say there are monkeys everywhere
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« Reply #905 on: March 01, 2008, 10:04:20 PM »

If Aruba claimed that a DEA agent ruined the inveatigation, imagine what they could say about a head of state.  I don't think it is Cheney and if it should be, that it would be related to the disappearance of Natalee.  JMO but I think wrong branch of government, Condi Rice would be more appropriate or someone from Dept of Justice. 

But since Dompig said Vice President Cheney, I do think it would be hilarious if he were to show up on their doorstep, lol!     I have no doubt that Dick Cheney is perfectly capable of scaring ALL of them.     And badly at that.

Well, I hope that Cheney has a chance to introduce him self to Dompig!!  And  gosh, I would love to be there.   
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« Reply #906 on: March 01, 2008, 10:04:33 PM »

more news~

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has warned Colombia a strike against Farc rebels inside Venezuela like that in Ecuador on Saturday could start a war...
Colombia's government has received billions of dollars in aid to fight the guerrillas from the US administration which, along with the EU, views Farc as a terrorist organisation.

I do believe there is an oil refinery deal going down~
Venezuela is a hot spot as well, so who knows why Cheney is in Aruba.
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« Reply #907 on: March 01, 2008, 10:05:06 PM »

Maybe Joe Taco has hired Joran as his new nanny for his own children since he is so convinced that Joran is such a choir boy.
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« Reply #908 on: March 01, 2008, 10:07:23 PM »

If Aruba claimed that a DEA agent ruined the inveatigation, imagine what they could say about a head of state.  I don't think it is Cheney and if it should be, that it would be related to the disappearance of Natalee.  JMO but I think wrong branch of government, Condi Rice would be more appropriate or someone from Dept of Justice. 

But since Dompig said Vice President Cheney, I do think it would be hilarious if he were to show up on their doorstep, lol!     I have no doubt that Dick Cheney is perfectly capable of scaring ALL of them.     And badly at that.

Cheney could have been a dictator in an earlier life:). He strikes me as a man that doesn't put up with a lot of crap, and that is what Rudy needs to meet.

PS I am surprised he didn't run for President.
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« Reply #909 on: March 01, 2008, 10:08:26 PM »

more news~

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has warned Colombia a strike against Farc rebels inside Venezuela like that in Ecuador on Saturday could start a war...
Colombia's government has received billions of dollars in aid to fight the guerrillas from the US administration which, along with the EU, views Farc as a terrorist organisation.

I do believe there is an oil refinery deal going down~
Venezuela is a hot spot as well, so who knows why Cheney is in Aruba.



The highest ever FARC leader was just arrested, too.  Maybe this is to transport him back to this country for trial ala Noreiga?  Should be in Colombia I would think, however.  But in any event, is the highest ranking ever arrested since the inception of FARC.
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« Reply #910 on: March 01, 2008, 10:08:32 PM »

Maybe Joe Taco has hired Joran as his new nanny for his own children since he is so convinced that Joran is such a choir boy.

The good thing is that boy or girl he would show no impartiality. He palys with both of them:)
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« Reply #911 on: March 01, 2008, 10:09:30 PM »

more news~

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has warned Colombia a strike against Farc rebels inside Venezuela like that in Ecuador on Saturday could start a war...
Colombia's government has received billions of dollars in aid to fight the guerrillas from the US administration which, along with the EU, views Farc as a terrorist organisation.

I do believe there is an oil refinery deal going down~
Venezuela is a hot spot as well, so who knows why Cheney is in Aruba.



The highest ever FARC leader was just arrested, too.  Maybe this is to transport him back to this country for trial ala Noreiga?  Should be in Colombia I would think, however.  But in any event, is the highest ranking ever arrested since the inception of FARC.

Number Two in the Organization and the highest ranking ever apprehended.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334288,00.html
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« Reply #912 on: March 01, 2008, 10:09:32 PM »

Earlier today...when I asked OE if VP was on Aruba...his reply was...no he didn't know if VP was there...and to *why* AF2 was there...OE replied that he could not *comment* on that...

Is it just me...trying to read between lines that probably don't even exist?...I'll go track down the post...

"AF2 is on the Island. To me this indicates Cheney is on the island, but I can't confirm this nor comment on the reason for the visit. "

Yes this is very odd to me also, something is up,but because of the pictures getting out he's talking less then before.
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« Reply #913 on: March 01, 2008, 10:09:40 PM »

I still expect him to end up starring in gay porn as the Monster Boy, son of Herman
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« Reply #914 on: March 01, 2008, 10:09:44 PM »

If Aruba claimed that a DEA agent ruined the inveatigation, imagine what they could say about a head of state.  I don't think it is Cheney and if it should be, that it would be related to the disappearance of Natalee.  JMO but I think wrong branch of government, Condi Rice would be more appropriate or someone from Dept of Justice. 

But since Dompig said Vice President Cheney, I do think it would be hilarious if he were to show up on their doorstep, lol!     I have no doubt that Dick Cheney is perfectly capable of scaring ALL of them.     And badly at that.

Cheney could have been a dictator in an earlier life:). He strikes me as a man that doesn't put up with a lot of crap, and that is what Rudy needs to meet.

PS I am surprised he didn't run for President.

Can't you just see that a---hole rudy blubbering in front of Cheney... I am making myself laugh....what a picture....
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« Reply #915 on: March 01, 2008, 10:10:13 PM »

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The Boeing C-32, a variant of the 757, is the usual transportation for the Vice President of the United States.
Vice President Dick Cheney using a Boeing VC-25 presidential aircraft for a visit to the Middle East in 2002.Air Force Two is the air traffic control call sign used by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the Vice President.[1] The term is often associated with a Boeing C-32, a modified 757 which is most commonly used as the Vice President's transport. The C-40 Clipper, a version of the Boeing 737, also serves in this role. Although the U.S. Marine Corps carry the primary mission for helicopter support of both the President, Marine One, and Vice President, Marine Two, UH-1N Twin Huey helicopters from the Air Force's 1st Helicopter Squadron are also used to support the Vice President in the Washington, D.C. area under the callsign Air Force Two.

During the buildup to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney made his first overseas trip in office. For the March 2002, 10-day, 12-country whirlwind trip throughout the Middle East, Cheney used the VC-25A, a Boeing 747, that is typically reserved for the President. The aircraft used the call sign Air Force Two. Cheney's last time on the aircraft was over a decade before when he served as George H. W. Bush's Defense Secretary. [2][3]

I didn't realize until I read wikipedia that there are actually 2 replica 747's that they use for AF1! Back in the early 90's a co-worker of mine (a Captain in the Naval reserve) took me to Andrews AFB and we saw AF1's hanger. Impressive!

If Dick Cheney let someone else use his plane to fly to Aruba, would the
plane still be referred to as AF2?  Or is it only AF2 if he is on it?
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« Reply #916 on: March 01, 2008, 10:10:21 PM »

  PI, I would give everything I have to see you and Joran meet in person 
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« Reply #917 on: March 01, 2008, 10:10:21 PM »

Maybe Joe Taco has hired Joran as his new nanny for his own children since he is so convinced that Joran is such a choir boy.

I heard Joran has been hired to "paint houses" and do some carpentry work as well...
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« Reply #918 on: March 01, 2008, 10:12:09 PM »

I didn't realize until I read wikipedia that there are actually 2 replica 747's that they use for AF1! Back in the early 90's a co-worker of mine (a Captain in the Naval reserve) took me to Andrews AFB and we saw AF1's hanger. Impressive!

If Dick Cheney let someone else use his plane to fly to Aruba, would the
plane still be referred to as AF2?  Or is it only AF2 if he is on it?

It's a call sign used only for the Vice President of the United States when he is traveling in the Air.
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« Reply #919 on: March 01, 2008, 10:12:41 PM »

I have been thinking who is the most kick ass and take names later person in the US currently, and Dick Chaney has to be near the top of the list. If anyone can talk Rudy's language and address the shenanigans of the "local dirty dutch," Vice President MR Chaney is the one.

And further more, if Odie don't like it Mr. Cheny will take him quail hunting.   jackb
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