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wreck
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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March 01, 2008, 03:10:39 PM »
Quote from: Destiny on March 01, 2008, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:58:21 PM
wait a sec here....
The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.
The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.
It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.
any one following me here?
No but I sure am trying Rob...
Here's my *shot in the dark*...Rob, as Wreck feels...so do I. I think they are leaving because the search has accomplished it's goal....that all data from that search has been verified by the FBI...and who knows else...now they have to scoot out of Dodge with the goods, before the bad guys come runnin' in claiming we stole their goodies...
maybe a few of the F-16's escorting AF2 can escort The Persistence home...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Hello all
I see two of our Dutch friends at FOK are reading Beths Book already in Holland..One of the commented he understands now why we are so angry. I thought you guys might find that interesting. A third Dutch Man read Dave's book last week and told me he had a tear in his throughout the book. It's a small world we live in and I hope more in Holland get a chance to read Beths Book.
All three are registered in this forum and hope they can stop by and say hello
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?
And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.
Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.
I agree PI.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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March 01, 2008, 03:14:46 PM »
Quote from: wreck on March 01, 2008, 03:10:39 PM
Quote from: Destiny on March 01, 2008, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:58:21 PM
wait a sec here....
The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.
The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.
It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.
any one following me here?
No but I sure am trying Rob...
Here's my *shot in the dark*...Rob, as Wreck feels...so do I. I think they are leaving because the search has accomplished it's goal....that all data from that search has been verified by the FBI...and who knows else...now they have to scoot out of Dodge with the goods, before the bad guys come runnin' in claiming we stole their goodies...
maybe a few of the F-16's escorting AF2 can escort The Persistence home...
Why yes and a U.S Navy Battalion too!!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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March 01, 2008, 03:18:10 PM »
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:58:21 PM
wait a sec here....
The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.
The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.
It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.
any one following me here?
No but I sure am trying Rob...
Tot, I think I confused myself too. But anyway - the crew has been on Aruba for two months since the photos were made (which is part of a video). They must have been doing other searches and Kyle told us they were during the weeks and months that followed.
If they knew for a fact that was Natalee all the way back at the end of December they would have left then. But they didn't. They are leaving now. After the tests were announced. For some reason they stopped the mapping and checked this specific target. They put the ROV in the water to look closer. Normally they would map and then put the ROV in and look at multiple targets. Not this time. Or so it seems anyway.
Gotcha!!!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Reply #665 on:
March 01, 2008, 03:19:03 PM »
Quote from: Blonde on March 01, 2008, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:58:21 PM
wait a sec here....
The video was shot a while ago. The test just came back. Not Natalee's DNA and fabric not related.
The video was shot a good while back on 12-29-2007 and the crew could have been searching other targets that entire time. It seems as if they are saying - we searched one item, there are a 100 to go and we decided to just stop.
It's been two months since whatever was discovered was discovered.
any one following me here?
YES , so maybe they got something new now, I hope.
Exactly, and I also think that they had far fewer than 100 targets to look at. IF, Natalee was in a container of some sorts, you would think that that digital signature would be very easy to see, which means that eliminating bogus, low probability targets would not be too dificult. Again, if you watch the video the 3D image of the crab cage on the computer screen is incredible (maybe someone could screen capture what I'm talking about).
How many large square or perfectly rectangular shapes can there possible be on that ocean floor? My guess is that the "real" target list was significantly lower than the number they were throwing out there. This would help explain why they would scan the entire area first. They where confident that even with dwindling funds the ultimate target list would be small enough to visually inspect no matter what.
Just my thinking here.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?
And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.
Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.
I hope you're right
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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March 01, 2008, 03:19:59 PM »
Quote from: Destiny on March 01, 2008, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Destiny on March 01, 2008, 03:01:30 PM
Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 02:59:28 PM
I hope the FBI drags in Koen and thrashes him about alittle bit.He knows what the truth is and he is on this side of the water so access is sure enough...Reports say he is living on the outskirts of Atlanta which isn't very far from me....Crack him and we get the goods and finally the truth...Why shootfire,could be they already have...
Tot...we should get together for lunch sometime
We be neighbors!
I'd love too!!!! Klaas,would you please send Destiny my email address?Destiny,I want to tell you what I see that is oh so weird in those pic's....
I can't wait to *share* points of view with you Tot...yes...I *saw/see* a lot of things in those photos too...
Looking forward to the talk and lunch!!!!
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CapsLockWizard
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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March 01, 2008, 03:20:42 PM »
Tonight there will be a broadcast at telearuba where everybody can call in and ask question.
they also will show a video never shown before.
I wonder what is going on here.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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I just signed on and am about 20 pages behind. Has there been any news from Anidac?
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on March 01, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
Tonight there will be a broadcast at telearuba where everybody can call in and ask question.
they also will show a video never shown before.
I wonder what is going on here.
It's called damage control.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?
And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.
Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.
I hope you're right
I pray this is the case, but I'm a little skeered at the same time...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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******* do you post on a Dutch site?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?
And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.
Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.
I hope you're right
Klassend: question
They did went back to sea after they search the land and the pond.?
or they docked and never went out.
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did they?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?
And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.
Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.
I hope you're right
Well it either did or it didn't so I have a 50% chance, and it is either the grandest event of the case or the meanest event of the case. Getting her hopes so high, locating the targets and telling the Arubans the locations of the targets and no one else and pulling out without searching would be the vilest efforts to date I think. Finding Natalee would be the grandest event. One of the two just happened.
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on March 01, 2008, 03:27:29 PM
did they?
I don't think they did. They searched the pond area then packed up and left
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Greetings all. We fly out of Aruba tomorrow. The Persistence will head out in a couple days.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: private eye on March 01, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Either something grand has happened or something mighty dirty just happened. You don't spend that much money to identify targets that you are not going to search. Why get Beth and Dave's hopes up, find probable targets allegedly, and then go, with very little warning, oops, we cannot afford to search afterall? Why does Chaney fly in at midnight the day before the Persistence pulls out? Coincidental? Silveti and Chaney are both active in the Houston area. Bush and Silveti the same plus the same business interests. Why Ocean EX would interject himself in the cage as he did last night? Why is Joran suddenly in a mental hospital?
And now that they have identified the locations of the targets, with the Aruban police force on board, they are retiring from the search, with guess who now in the know. And what is funny, is it was Oceans Ex fear that we might give some secrets away. Hell, the coverup people already have the secrets, first hand from the horse themselves.
Something grand had to have happened. If not, then this was the cruelest hoax of yet. And I just don't believe these people are anything but nice, so something grand had to have happened.
I hope you're right
Well it either did or it didn't so I have a 50% chance, and it is either the grandest event of the case or the meanest event of the case. Getting her hopes so high, locating the targets and telling the Arubans the locations of the targets and no one else and pulling out without searching would be the vilest efforts to date I think. Finding Natalee would be the grandest event. One of the two just happened.
I'm choosing the latter!!! It would be cruel to just pull out without finishing the job.Is it the Persistence or the Quitter?
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===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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