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« Reply #680 on: March 02, 2008, 10:42:39 PM »

Jossy said he thinks Van der Straaten is back on the island but he is not active.

   Sounds like a bacteria. 
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« Reply #681 on: March 02, 2008, 10:42:49 PM »

Interesting Rob is talking about "branding" and Deetch made the point that they killed their brand over two years ago.

I had this conversation with Dave and Beth in 2005. Aruba's branding was "Natalee Holloway".

The media refers to crime, corruption not only in the Caribbean but in the US and compares it to the Natalee Holloway case and Aruba. Natalee Holloway has become synonymous with missing persons and corruption in a case.

Just like how scotch tape is used to describe all tape. Scotch tape is not a product, its a brand.

That is just one of the reasons why the NH case has never gone away. Aruba stupidly thought it would fizzle and they would go about their normal business. We told people back in 2005 that would never happen. I guess they should have listened.

Hey Aruba ... ask Jamaica how long it took to get their tourism back after a tourist was killed there in the 70's. They at least had a point in time to go forward.

Because Aruba has never cared to investigate or provide justice for Natalee, their tourism clock has never started.

Aruba ... perception is everything when people have choices .... everyone perceives that you are guilty of a cover up. No amount of marketing dollars will ever change that.
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« Reply #682 on: March 02, 2008, 10:42:57 PM »

Is the program on commercial now??
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« Reply #683 on: March 02, 2008, 10:44:41 PM »

Karam Meiser on now saying something about the mother, meaning Beth.  Isn't he the sex therapist?  Called him a spiritual healer?
IIRC, the sex therapist was Prasand. I think Karam was the Yoga Grand Master?
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« Reply #684 on: March 02, 2008, 10:48:24 PM »

Who is this man in the dark suit talking about the FBI website?  Bet he is telling the whopper that Natalee is not listed there as missing.  No, she is on the page with the Murder victims!

A call in now.
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« Reply #685 on: March 02, 2008, 10:48:38 PM »

Jossy said he thinks Van der Straaten is back on the island but he is not active.

   Sounds like a bacteria. 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #686 on: March 02, 2008, 10:50:03 PM »

Karam Meiser on now saying something about the mother, meaning Beth.  Isn't he the sex therapist?  Called him a spiritual healer?
IIRC, the sex therapist was Prasand. I think Karam was the Yoga Grand Master?

Ah, I see.  Thanks!  Well, that sure qualifies him, doesn't it!   

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« Reply #687 on: March 02, 2008, 10:50:31 PM »

Who is this man in the dark suit talking about the FBI website?  Bet he is telling the whopper that Natalee is not listed there as missing.  No, she is on the page with the Murder victims!

A call in now.

Dam that's a long question!!!

 
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« Reply #688 on: March 02, 2008, 10:51:39 PM »

That ladying is either venting or spewing garbage, I can't tell which it is. Her tone sems pretty fired up.
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« Reply #689 on: March 02, 2008, 10:52:27 PM »

He mentioned Hans Mos
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« Reply #690 on: March 02, 2008, 10:53:04 PM »

Just talking about Patrick's scar.  I wonder why that is relevant.
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« Reply #691 on: March 02, 2008, 10:54:19 PM »

Patrick interview up now
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« Reply #692 on: March 02, 2008, 10:55:19 PM »

looks like they brought out a keg of Absinthe....

 
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« Reply #693 on: March 02, 2008, 10:55:31 PM »

Patrick wearing terminator glasses,...LOL

 
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« Reply #694 on: March 02, 2008, 10:56:34 PM »

Just talking about Patrick's scar.  I wonder why that is relevant.

funny I can't see the scar in the video..can you?
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« Reply #695 on: March 02, 2008, 10:57:38 PM »

Showing a photo only of Hans Mos.  Appear to be discussing him now.
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« Reply #696 on: March 02, 2008, 10:57:49 PM »

Right Red, anyone in the business world and with an IQ over 119 points got that real fast. The brand is now Natalee Holloway. Whether we like it or not. It's really that simple. I'm sure no one wants that to be true, especially Dave and Beth, but that's the way it is.. and will be for sometime to come.

Rob Smith knows it and his kid glove approach to ******* showed me that. Rob's a smart guy... he's in the wrong place at the wrong time, but has nothing to lose. It's like begin the manager of the Pirates. You can't fail. Everyone has failed before, you can only succeed. A 10% jump in tourism is a victory... and one we will not allow them. If the Pirates break 50% it's a victory. Same for Rob Smith. He'll be there for 5 years at least in this position and there might be some growth. He'll take credit for that when he moves on.

anyway - you are making some terrific posts tonight.
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« Reply #697 on: March 02, 2008, 10:57:51 PM »

I think he was just asked about the trip to America that didn't happen.
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« Reply #698 on: March 02, 2008, 10:58:39 PM »

Just talking about Patrick's scar.  I wonder why that is relevant.

funny I can't see the scar in the video..can you?

Barely.  Are they both wearing make up by any chance?  Sort of looks like it.
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« Reply #699 on: March 02, 2008, 10:59:34 PM »

Nothing much has changed from what I can tell:

Joran is no longer a suspect despite his confession.

Unless a Judge issues an an arrest warrant he will never again be a suspect

Although the case has not been formally closed there are no suspects.

Persistance did some fine work, but found nothing relevant to the case and has left

Joran has probably left the Netherlands for Germany

Mos continues with the PR and the coverup

The case is cold for lack of evidence


That sums it up.

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