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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 12:17:10 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 12:32:28 PM »

Old Fart...the Persistence has left Aruba as of this morning at 8:20AM according to LegallyLex at BFN.... there are pictures of the boat leaving but they asked for them not to be moved off the site... 


Yes, I just read that over there. Well, it won't be long before those photos will be all over...starting with RU, I'll bet. Hell, 1/2 of RU are members at BFN and BNH. How do they expect those photos to stay there Rolling Eyes . I won't take them, but we all know MANY from RU and BNH sure will!!

What a way to promote a DONATION. This is ridiculous, like BFN are the only ones that cared, supported and have donated?


So Kyle is sort of a cabin boy?


I was catching up this morning and came across the above post and found it odd that it was asked the pics not leave BFN as IF  no one but BFN members are the only ones that care, have supported, donated, spent endless hours..etc ..on and on.

It's just odd to me that the pics of the Persistence photos leaving Aruba have been requested to stay on BFN.



Sounds like of like a deliberate snub, doesn't it?

Well, I'm just not going to be offended anyway.  Their frustration level had to be off the chart.  Maybe Kyle will give us some explanation when he gets home and rested up.  Will withhold judgment until then.

And even if he doesn't, we are all on the same team.  And Tim Miller was a part of that search and I know he would never want to do anything to snub the Monkeys.

They all still have my gratitude and prayers and wishes for a return to finish the search if it is deemed likely to find Natalee.

We have to be uniters and not dividers and all the supporters of Natalee's family must pull together even if we don't always agree on things and I mean the search crew and BFN as well as any supporters anywhere.

It's still about Natalee for me, egos be damned no matter whose they are. I'm here now basically for Beth, to be perfectly candid.  I don't really care what games they play with pictures anyway.  They gave months of their lives and I love them for that no matter what else they may do.


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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 12:35:46 PM »

Oh, WoW!

I just learned how to bring a post from one thread to another!  Usually I just lose my whole post and get caught in the cage door when it changes.

First time I was ever successful at doing this.  Of course, it has to be so simple if I can do it, just copy and paste basically but I didn't know it could be done before.


Now I have to work so can watch the second part of the program tonight if it is still on schedule.

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 12:45:46 PM »

   
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 12:49:31 PM »

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #738 3/1 - 3/3/08
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The killing of a terrorist is not a reason to go to war, and it's quite obvious Chavez is hankerin' for a fight. This excursion to kill the terrorist has nothing to do with Venezuela.

Now whether Chavez wants to try out his new hardware or he has other ideas about the region will be known shortly. He will either follow through on his proclamations or he will back down and lose face among the socialist that are his supporters.

I think he will lose his new hardware in prompt fashion should he engage one of our allies. Chavez is reckless and he's going to put the people in Venezuela in a very very bad position.

No matter how you slice and dice this situation, it doesn't look good.

Morning Rob..and all Monkeys!

Couldn't agree with you more...I also see this a a bid Karma nail in Aruba's coffin...who would even want to vacation, much less buy property in a beach front *war* zone....I can see it now...next to the Holiday Inn...a nice big tent city of refugees.

Tourism has taken a *huge* blow with the current state of affaires....too bad Aruba...you are reaping what you have sown...
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You are so right, Destiny.  As if the Holloway case didn't turn their tourism downwards, now it appears that Chavez might just finish the job and flush it.  Who would go to an island so close to a war zone?  This will finish them and they'll be opening all those hotel rooms to South American refugees.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 12:53:26 PM »

Guess I'll need Anna to show me how to properly bring a post forward from the last thread...I always screw it up 
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 12:54:58 PM »

"Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist on board the R/V Persistence. Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification and location. I will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target after I pick and analyse each sonar target."

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Hardly a cabin boy.

I do not doubt for one minute that Kyle is very qualified in his profession ... I do not doubt for one minute that Kyle motives in locating the remains of Natalee Hollway were very sincere.

However ... somewhere along the way Kyle was influenced to believe that those within the Aruban investigation were the "good guys" and ... the media which was the sole reason that the Natalee Holloway case did not become a faded memory was the "bad guy".

The following post spoke volumes to me in regards to Kyle navet in regards to the dynamics encompassing the "powers that be" in the Aruban investigation who have been behind the coverup which has been denying Natalee Holloway justice.

I cannot comprehend that Kyle would have posted the following words if he had done his homework.  If only he had read Dave Holloway's ... Corruption in Paradise or ... Beth Holloway's ... Loving Natalee.

In November, 2005 ... Dave Holloway conceded that his cooperation with the enemy had not worked.  Dave learned that his goal for justice to prevail for his precious daughter did not reflect ... the Aruban goal to distance Joran and Paulus from implication.

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 -
Reply #103 on: January 26, 2008, 12:38:25 PM


Thought you all may find this interesting if you're willing to accept it-

To date, the Aruban police and dive team has been a tremendous help.  They've honestly done a great job. Over the last month we've established a very good working relationship based on openness and trust.  Most of the relationship success was due to getting the media out of the way and working together shoulder to shoulder over time.  We've helped each other however and whenever we can.  They've treated us with decency and respect and we have treated them as friends and allies, which they are. Most of the police and divers are new since this case started and both eager and careful to do things right.  I wish we had a month ahead of the project just to establish the relationships and trust. I know many of you would likely doubt this view, but it's based on the experiences in the field of the entire search team. I too was extremely worried, paranoid, and suspecting in the beginning.  Now, it's clear we're all working towards a common goal.


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HOLLOWAY: ... I made sure that the prime minister understood our position. You know, I had been holding off on this boycott as long as I could, and I told him, I said, you know, The big wave is coming, and if you guys are not going to listen, I can't help you anymore.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175925,00.html


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HOLLOWAY: Oh, the media was our best friend. If it hadn't been for the media this thing would have been swept under the table the very first day and we'd have been calling back to Aruba "Have you heard anything? Have you heard anything?" I truly believe that.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191377,00.html
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 12:56:05 PM »

Old Fart...the Persistence has left Aruba as of this morning at 8:20AM according to LegallyLex at BFN.... there are pictures of the boat leaving but they asked for them not to be moved off the site... 


Yes, I just read that over there. Well, it won't be long before those photos will be all over...starting with RU, I'll bet. Hell, 1/2 of RU are members at BFN and BNH. How do they expect those photos to stay there Rolling Eyes . I won't take them, but we all know MANY from RU and BNH sure will!!

What a way to promote a DONATION. This is ridiculous, like BFN are the only ones that cared, supported and have donated?


So Kyle is sort of a cabin boy?


I was catching up this morning and came across the above post and found it odd that it was asked the pics not leave BFN as IF  no one but BFN members are the only ones that care, have supported, donated, spent endless hours..etc ..on and on.

It's just odd to me that the pics of the Persistence photos leaving Aruba have been requested to stay on BFN.



Sounds like of like a deliberate snub, doesn't it?

Well, I'm just not going to be offended anyway.  Their frustration level had to be off the chart.  Maybe Kyle will give us some explanation when he gets home and rested up.  Will withhold judgment until then.

And even if he doesn't, we are all on the same team.  And Tim Miller was a part of that search and I know he would never want to do anything to snub the Monkeys.

They all still have my gratitude and prayers and wishes for a return to finish the search if it is deemed likely to find Natalee.

We have to be uniters and not dividers and all the supporters of Natalee's family must pull together even if we don't always agree on things and I mean the search crew and BFN as well as any supporters anywhere.

It's still about Natalee for me, egos be damned no matter whose they are. I'm here now basically for Beth, to be perfectly candid.  I don't really care what games they play with pictures anyway.  They gave months of their lives and I love them for that no matter what else they may do.


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I am with you 100%. I do hope they get out of there before any hostility breaks out. The boat did have some amazing capabilities and the owner was extremely generous.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 01:01:30 PM »

Tamikosmom, I agree.  Kyle was shocked at the information in the TNI report that we all digested 3 years ago.  He is a scientist and takes things at face value. The Arubans are quite good at presenting one attitude to your face and another behind your back.  We have also learned that over the past 3 years.  I think his youth and lack of experience with people like the ALE and the internet bloggers caused him to misinterpret motivations and actions.  Youth and inexperience are easily cured with time.  He was a valuable member of the search team, and I forgive him his assumptions.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 01:07:12 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 01:10:01 PM »

O/T BREAKING NEWS

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Dear Lord, is there no end to the madness?

Hey Sunny!
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O/T BREAKING NEWS

REPORT: SEVEN SHOT AT WENDY'S NEAR WEST PALM BEACH, FLA.



Dear Lord, is there no end to the madness?

Hey Sunny!

Hi Cubbee.....madness is correct!!
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 01:14:22 PM »

I speculate that furor over the internet images taken by the crew of the  Persistance of the contents of that enormous cage/trap has everything to do with those images NOT having anything to do with the Natalee Holloway case.

Maybe ... just maybe ... those images should never have been released by the Persistance ... as they would become part of a new Aruban investigation.

I suspect that these images were shared with Robin H. but ... were never expected to surface on the internet.

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I really didn't want to respond to all this but I feel I must. 

Please stop...and carefully think things through here.  You know who I mean.

WHAT do you think you are doing?  What do you seriously think you are going to accomplish with the pics?  Don't you even think to consider for a second that we the search team, who found the trap, supervised it's sampling, recorded that video and others... are ensuring the situation is in proper hands and being taken care of appropriately and completely?   

You are not helping anything by interfering with what you do not fully understand.  Please let the authorities do their jobs without interference.   

Robin should never have posted those pics because of the stir they would cause.  She trusted (mistakenly) people's ethics on a private forum.  One of the reasons (among many) that this case has taken so long to solve is because of the Internet, media, and well intended partially-informed people's ambitions and agendas.  Stay out of business you don't belong in.  You all know I am an ally both in the field and on the net.  I have done my best to both bring success to this case and to keep people informed and updated with what information should be provided.  We the search team have worked extremely hard over a long time.  Many of you have as well.  Let's not let our frustrations get the best of us.  Let us not let our emotions interfere with what we know to be true, and let us not forget who we are and what jobs we have to do.  Let those who are responsible do their jobs.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 01:17:57 PM »

Tamikosmom, I agree.  Kyle was shocked at the information in the TNI report that we all digested 3 years ago.  He is a scientist and takes things at face value. The Arubans are quite good at presenting one attitude to your face and another behind your back.  We have also learned that over the past 3 years.  I think his youth and lack of experience with people like the ALE and the internet bloggers caused him to misinterpret motivations and actions.  Youth and inexperience are easily cured with time.  He was a valuable member of the search team, and I forgive him his assumptions.

Bless his heart.  He can't help it he hasn't been on this earth as long as some of the rest of us.  I'd like to read some of his other blogs in my spare time.  I found Kyle to be very interesting.  I believe he will do well in his chosen field. 
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 01:21:12 PM »

Tamikosmom, I agree.  Kyle was shocked at the information in the TNI report that we all digested 3 years ago.  He is a scientist and takes things at face value. The Arubans are quite good at presenting one attitude to your face and another behind your back.  We have also learned that over the past 3 years.  I think his youth and lack of experience with people like the ALE and the internet bloggers caused him to misinterpret motivations and actions.  Youth and inexperience are easily cured with time.  He was a valuable member of the search team, and I forgive him his assumptions.

Bless his heart.  He can't help it he hasn't been on this earth as long as some of the rest of us.  I'd like to read some of his other blogs in my spare time.  I found Kyle to be very interesting.  I believe he will do well in his chosen field. 


HEy Peaches! I agree!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 01:26:56 PM »

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I didn't mean to offend you with my teasing of Kyle. I know he is a professional who is well educated, accomplished, and skilled. I have thanked him profusely and sincerely. I simply thought a little good natured teasing was in order. I am sorry if it offended you and or Kyle. My words weren't designed to reprimand, belittle, blame, or hurt him, and if they did I sincerely apologize. He is a great guy in my book.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 01:27:20 PM »

I agree, also.  Kyle did a wonderful job keeping us updated on the search and educating all of us about the equipment used in the search. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 01:28:16 PM »

Well, here's certainly some wonderful news.  Bet Carpe can capture it for us, too!



http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3456742/_Moeder_Natalee__te_gast_bij_Jensen__.html?p=1,2
 
Moeder Natalee Holloway te gast bij Jensen

HILVERSUM - Beth Twitty, de moeder van op de Aruba verdwenen tiener Natalee Holloway, is dinsdagavond te gast in het televisieprogramma Jensen!. Voor het eerst na de spraakmakende uitzending van Peter R. de Vries geeft ze op de Nederlandse televisie haar reactie op de bekentenissen van Joran van der Sloot, aldus RTL maandag.

Beth Twitty the mother of missing teenager Natalee Holloway. will be Tuesday as guest in TV show Jensen. For the first time after the show from Peter R. de Vries she gives to  Dutch TV a reaction to the confession from Joran van der Sloot, said RTL monday.


Tegen presentator Robert Jensen vertelt ze over de schadeclaim die ze gaat indien bij Joran van der Sloot wegens de emotionele schade die ze heeft geleden. Ook gaat ze in op de gebeurtenissen nadat de mediagekte losbarstte en de zoektocht naar haar dochter, die op 30 mei 2005 verdween.

She wukk talk to announcer Robert Jensen about the civil lawsuit against Joran van der Sloot, what he has done emotionally to her. Also she will be talking about the media that is following the case and about the search to her daughter, that was missing on May 30, 2005.


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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2008, 01:28:59 PM »

ok I may be tarred and feathered for this. The USA spends billions on a fight against drugs that can not be won. We have overflowing prisons, mass murders and a missing Natalie which is in some way related to Illegal narcotics. The simple and easiest way to control these substances are to legalize them and tax the crap out of it. Spend the tax dollars on rehabilitaion. Take the glamour away from using illegal narcotics. This would clean this country and all of the corrupt governments up. Just my opinion. I am sorry that I posted this here. Ok heat up the tar and I have the feathers
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