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« Reply #340 on: March 03, 2008, 09:26:27 PM »


Kyle has already said that there were no human remains, and I believe him

If you quote me, please include the quote for accuracy.  I never said there were no human remains.  I woudn't comment to that effect.  I have neither confirmed nor denied the issue.  The only comment I said was quoting Tim Trahan.
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« Reply #341 on: March 03, 2008, 09:27:19 PM »

Private Eye... I do not get sea sick, thank the good Lord.

I'm glad you understand my shock in seeing the pics posted on the Internet.

Good night all, signing off.
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« Reply #342 on: March 03, 2008, 09:27:29 PM »

Hi all,

Well it is not over till Natalee is send home.

XTC DNA area may hold many mystery...
The parked Hour Pendulum is now set in motion.
Several Guillotine are being sharpen.
when the Hour Pendulum reach 240 swing the auto Guillotine will fall.
the foundation of babylon will be shake.

To be continue...


Ok,We will have the cigars ready! Let those heads roll!! 


What does this mean?

It means that Caps thinks the Babylon is starting to fall. Meaning the cover up and the corrupt officials.
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« Reply #343 on: March 03, 2008, 09:28:12 PM »


Thanks GMBW and a belated welcome to the board. One thing that has been persistently missing in the Dutch media is the corruption angle in Aruba. It's so damn obvious. I wish they would jump on that more. I hope this is something Peter is working on behind the scenes.

I think he's trying very hard to do so...he did it in his first special when the angle of  'the friend of the family' opening the door at the Van der Sloots house when the housesearch was going to happen was very important in the show...and with the cellphone - prison thing in his latest special.
He has said  that he's got 'his own ideas' about Paul van der Sloot (and we all know what that means Wink...). But he won't say it out loud if he doesn't have stuff to back it up. In his position credibility means just about everything & because of that he can't say things without proof. But he is aware of Paul van der Sloot & his buddies helping out Joran and ???; the rest of the media seem to have focused on Joran.

Maybe it's also because the media can't really bring it up since it's mostly news / talkshows that bring the case. News: you need prove / Talkshow: not too much detail & difficulty concerning the subject...10 / 15 minutes max. for an item.
Newspapers should have picked it up though; it's weird they haven't really done that.


You know Peter much better than we do being in Holland, but we have heard that he not only investigates murders with vigor but like to bust the occasional corrupt politician as well. Is this true?

he did so many cases.
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/tekst/dossierindextot.htm

about corrupt officials, right out of my head:

1. exposed a public prosecutor (Tonino) with child porn on his computer. Tonino put his computer with the garbage, that's how peter r. got hold of the computer. the public prosecutor got suspended.

2. exposed the upcoming reserve queen (mabel wisse smit) as having a relationship with dutch biggest gangster Klaas Bruinsma in the 80s. mabel wisse smit lied about this to the prime minister Balkenende. prince johan-friso (son of queen beatrix) lost his right to the dutch throne because of this.

3. exposed dutch secret service (AIVD) trying to frame the later assassinated pim fortuyn as if he had sex with underage drugs addicted moroccan boys.
(pim fortuyn got assassinated a week before the elections as he was leading the polls)

4. exposed dutch board of procureurs generaal violating parking rules right outside the dutch OM headoffice.

5. exposed officials of the dutch police national headquarters violating parking rules outside the hq's.
head of police promised change. year later the violating was still going on.

6. exposed a police officer (possible drugging and) changing the will (testament) of multiple old, dying people so he inherited their money / real estate.

i am sure i forgot something.

most of these involved hidden camera.
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« Reply #344 on: March 03, 2008, 09:28:35 PM »


Kyle has already said that there were no human remains, and I believe him

If you quote me, please include the quote for accuracy.  I never said there were no human remains.  I woudn't comment to that effect.  I have neither confirmed nor denied the issue.  The only comment I said was quoting Tim Trahan.

We know that OE..But rest assured if you make a comment it will be in Tamikosmoms database 

Before I leave I have 3 suggestions for Kyle. Don't let them pin you down and don't take any crap:)
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« Reply #345 on: March 03, 2008, 09:28:41 PM »


Ocean Ex, don't feel obligated to answer anything your even the least bit uncomfortable answering. I think eveyone just wants you to be able to relax, enjoy the group, offer what you can, with no expectations from us of you.

I appreciate the offer, I accept.  I will not talk about what I shouldn't, let alone what I can't.  However, I believe what is already out in the open is better off made clear and accurate, rather than thrown out in the open and left for passionate people to decifer (based on 6 screen shots, a few comments by people who weren't present the entire time, and some fuzzy Dateline footage).   
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« Reply #346 on: March 03, 2008, 09:29:50 PM »

I'm getting old, I forgot the 3rd:) Oh yea, remind them of our promise:)
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« Reply #347 on: March 03, 2008, 09:32:30 PM »

I'm getting old, I forgot the 3rd:) Oh yea, remind them of our promise:)
old?  when this started I was here before the crash... I read for hours on end.. now I need reading glasses
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« Reply #348 on: March 03, 2008, 09:34:50 PM »


Thanks GMBW and a belated welcome to the board. One thing that has been persistently missing in the Dutch media is the corruption angle in Aruba. It's so damn obvious. I wish they would jump on that more. I hope this is something Peter is working on behind the scenes.

I think he's trying very hard to do so...he did it in his first special when the angle of  'the friend of the family' opening the door at the Van der Sloots house when the housesearch was going to happen was very important in the show...and with the cellphone - prison thing in his latest special.
He has said  that he's got 'his own ideas' about Paul van der Sloot (and we all know what that means Wink...). But he won't say it out loud if he doesn't have stuff to back it up. In his position credibility means just about everything & because of that he can't say things without proof. But he is aware of Paul van der Sloot & his buddies helping out Joran and ???; the rest of the media seem to have focused on Joran.

Maybe it's also because the media can't really bring it up since it's mostly news / talkshows that bring the case. News: you need prove / Talkshow: not too much detail & difficulty concerning the subject...10 / 15 minutes max. for an item.
Newspapers should have picked it up though; it's weird they haven't really done that.


You know Peter much better than we do being in Holland, but we have heard that he not only investigates murders with vigor but like to bust the occasional corrupt politician as well. Is this true?

he did so many cases.
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/tekst/dossierindextot.htm

about corrupt officials, right out of my head:

1. exposed a public prosecutor (Tonino) with child porn on his computer. Tonino put his computer with the garbage, that's how peter r. got hold of the computer. the public prosecutor got suspended.

2. exposed the upcoming reserve queen (mabel wisse smit) as having a relationship with dutch biggest gangster Klaas Bruinsma in the 80s. mabel wisse smit lied about this to the prime minister Balkenende. prince johan-friso (son of queen beatrix) lost his right to the dutch throne because of this.

3. exposed dutch secret service (AIVD) trying to frame the later assassinated pim fortuyn as if he had sex with underage drugs addicted moroccan boys.
(pim fortuyn got assassinated a week before the elections as he was leading the polls)

4. exposed dutch board of procureurs generaal violating parking rules right outside the dutch OM headoffice.

5. exposed officials of the dutch police national headquarters violating parking rules outside the hq's.
head of police promised change. year later the violating was still going on.

6. exposed a police officer (possible drugging and) changing the will (testament) of multiple old, dying people so he inherited their money / real estate.

i am sure i forgot something.

most of these involved hidden camera.

Ribbit, sorry about the quote stack Kermit, but

I think I love this man......this Peter R. Devries..,
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« Reply #349 on: March 03, 2008, 09:35:45 PM »

Thank you Kyle
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« Reply #350 on: March 03, 2008, 09:36:24 PM »

Posted by MF at RU:

Beth Reynolds, de moeder van de verdwenen Amerikaanse tiener Natalee Holloway, is dinsdag te gast in de talkshow van Robert Jensen. Dat heeft RTL maandag bekendgemaakt. Ze doet voor het eerst haar verhaal op de Nederlandse televisie na de uitzending van misdaadverslaggever Peter R. de Vries vorige maand over de verdwijningszaak.

In die uitzending waren met een verborgen camera opgenomen beelden te zien waarin verdachte Joran van der Sloot bekent te weten waar Holloway is gebleven. Ze zou onwel zijn geworden tijdens een vrijpartij, waarna Van der Sloot een vriend zou hebben gebeld die hem hielp Natalee te dumpen in zee.

Reynolds was al eerder te gast bij Jensen. In september vertelde ze voor het eerst in een Nederlandse talkshow over de verdwijning van haar dochter.



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Beth Reynolds, the mother of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway, Tuesday is a guest in the talk by Robert Jensen. That has RTL Monday. She does for the first time her story on the Dutch television after the broadcast of crime reporter Peter R. De Vries last month on the verdwijningszaak.

In the broadcast with a hidden camera recorded images to see where suspect Joran van der Sloot known to know where Holloway stayed. She would have become unwell during a vrijpartij, after which Van der Sloot would have called a friend who helped him Natalee to dump at sea.

Reynolds was previously the guest of Jensen. In September she told for the first time in a Dutch talk about the disappearance of her daughter.
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« Reply #351 on: March 03, 2008, 09:36:27 PM »

I'm getting old, I forgot the 3rd:) Oh yea, remind them of our promise:)
LOL! Night old man! j/k It's a Monday and you have no edit button 

You too OE..It will be a great story some day when you tell your daughter how she got her name..
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« Reply #352 on: March 03, 2008, 09:38:26 PM »

Kermit's pic:



Jackb's adjustment/enhancement of Kermit's pic:




  This appears to be a top side (not direct view but behind the ear up and down (that I have here.)  You are looking down into the skull from the (person made) cavities on top.  Down in the left (your left) is the eye socket bone most likely.  There are other views here and there.  The darkened areas are where skull once was.     j/b

Yep...extreme head trauma...*she hit her head*...guess a lot of people from those parts hit their heads....could be anyone whacked on the head with a big rock...
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« Reply #353 on: March 03, 2008, 09:40:39 PM »


Kyle has already said that there were no human remains, and I believe him

If you quote me, please include the quote for accuracy.  I never said there were no human remains.  I woudn't comment to that effect.  I have neither confirmed nor denied the issue.  The only comment I said was quoting Tim Trahan.

We know that OE..But rest assured if you make a comment it will be in Tamikosmoms database 

You bet!!

 

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« Reply #354 on: March 03, 2008, 09:41:00 PM »



Same object that appears to be a skull with color removed and flipped the pic around



This reminds me of the book by Iris Johansen called Face of Deception..Creepy indeed..

I too think it is a skull.  If it is in fact a skull and DNA proves it not to be Natalee, I hope they let one of those talented people recreate the face.  There is a woman in the US who is particularly excellent at this skill and has worked with many in law enforcement on especially difficult and mysterious cases, but her name escapes me at the moment.

How weird that that subject is what this book is about...Very scarey read..

That might be her - not sure.  The woman I was referring to has worked with John Walsh on several high profile cases.  One that comes to mind is the one in south Florida where a hiker stumbled upon eight (I think) skeletal remains.  She recreated all their faces and was so accurate they were almost all immediately identified by their families.  The reconstructions side by side by the persons photographs were remarkable.  Absolutely amazing.

Kermit and friends:  Just sent Klass a more visable version of what you posted.  Naner, naner, nanter (as the lady said,)  you will see something most of the other people on the other blogs have not.  What you will be seeing is a top and side view where you are looking down into the skull.  It appears the eye socket holder is in the (my)  left lower corner of the pic I sent.  It is your picture I messed with this time Kermit, the one you posted.
Just made it a bit more visable.  If Klass will send it it is in her e-mail.  LOL
 blue the strange. 

Good job jack.
Sure looks like a skull to me.

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« Reply #355 on: March 03, 2008, 09:41:29 PM »

Hi all,

Well it is not over till Natalee is send home.

XTC DNA area may hold many mystery...
The parked Hour Pendulum is now set in motion.
Several Guillotine are being sharpen.
when the Hour Pendulum reach 240 swing the auto Guillotine will fall.
the foundation of babylon will be shake.

To be continue...


Ok,We will have the cigars ready! Let those heads roll!! 


What does this mean?

It means that Caps thinks the Babylon is starting to fall. Meaning the cover up and the corrupt officials.
Will be in the new.

He was arrested in the USA Aruba Government (big time MEP Supported) for oney laundering and falsification...
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« Reply #356 on: March 03, 2008, 09:42:37 PM »

Heh Heh
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« Reply #357 on: March 03, 2008, 09:43:00 PM »

Private Eye... I do not get sea sick, thank the good Lord.

I'm glad you understand my shock in seeing the pics posted on the Internet.

Good night all, signing off.

klaas...is this a random middle thought or what, hmmmm
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« Reply #358 on: March 03, 2008, 09:44:33 PM »

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« Reply #359 on: March 03, 2008, 09:45:38 PM »



Same object that appears to be a skull with color removed and flipped the pic around



Kermit, I am one who believes that is a skull.  You are creeping me out with those enhancements.  I see eyes and mouth.  It is spooky.

I agree Blue Moon of KY

It's almost like you can see a face on that. And alls I did was remove the color and turn the picture.

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