Natalee Case Discussion #739 3/3 - 3/5/08

[Bladerunner]

When does part 2 of the Telearuba show air, is it tomorrow or Friday??   

Thursday 

Right....because it's only....Tuesday!!     

[Shell]

Buckshot, it's around somewhere. That's the way I remember it. It was a small white pick-up (possibly a Toyota) and the license plate was registered to the ALE and it was the truck assigned to Van Der Straaten. That's a little bit clearer.

Maybe someone has that info stored.

that's the way I remember it anyway... and around the same time, someone came forward and said that someone stole a white trash bag from the Hyatt beach area.

It must have been a special kind of white trash bag for someone to even notice it was missing.

[Windsor]

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I can do a turkey bake... maybe!!!

Rob -- I just had to log in.  I'm a huge lurker, not a poster, but I seem to remember the funniest story ever about a turkey.  Am I right???

yes, you are right Windsor... and you should post more. 

I'm really a Shango/Simianhead.  I love reading that thread.  It's starting to make sense! 

Whenever I can, I bring up Natalee's name.  I recently met a travel agent, and joked, "Oh, you don't book trips to Aruba, do you?"  She asked, "Why not?"  "Because of what happened to Natalee Holloway and the corruption on that island."  She tried to tell me it's a safe and pretty island.  I said, "Nah-uh, I've been there."  Well, I won't get into the words we exchanged, but she eventually said, "Oh, I see so and so, I need to go talk to her."  Well, I tried.  My friends always ask me what's going on in the case whenever they hear something in the media about it.

[martini]

Hi Monkeys~
I have a question about the prisons in Aruba and Curacao. I seem to recall a prison you tube video of a rap song done in the Curacao prison. I tried to find the video, no luck. In researching it, there was something about removing the lap tops from the prisoners?
My question is..Are the prisons in the Netherland Antilles different from the USA?

A little off topic but this was e-mailed to me today~
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona) who created the 'Tent City Jail':

 

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails.
Took away their weights Cut off all but 'G' movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He
Wouldn't Get Sued For Discrimination.
He took away cable TV Until he found out there was a Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For Jails so He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In the Disney Channel And The Weather Channel. When asked why the weather channel He Replied, so They Will Know How Hot Its Gonna Be While they Are Working ON My Chain Gangs.
He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value as well. 

[martini]

 found it~
38 Laptops confiscated in Bon Futuro

WILLEMSTAD – Bon Futuro-prison management confiscated 38 laptops yesterday. Reason for this action was the publication of a videoclip inside the prison walls of- and by the prisoners on several websites.

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/12128/e7498cc9/index.html

[Shell]

It creeps me out that Joran has shown no emotion about any of this, except anger. He has not shed a tear during all his interviews that I have seen. No remorse for leaving Natalee on the beach (if that were true). I think there was a report of him crying in jail. Other than that, he is eerily unfeeling about the situation, except as it pertains to himself. I know I am repeating the thoughts that have been expressed by others here before. I can only conclude an innocent person, a normal person, would show some feelings of regret and remorse.
 

[private eye]

How do you reconcile the first few days of the case, with Anita having such accurate knowledge of Natalee's panties and pubic area, with his confession to Patrick?

[private eye]

He spent a lot of time around her pubic area, including really studying her panties to have been on the beach and then to have her start shaking and having seizures, and the moon had to be exceptionally bright.

[private eye]

And when Paulus was sweating, shaking, and squirming, was he actually doing anything to defend the boy, Joran, or was he sitting there a spectator? Was he nervous from covering up for the boy or was he guilty as sin and overwhelmed by fear of the consequences of getting caught and the shame of his own actions? Anita doesn't sweat or squirm when she is covering for Joran. She has absolutely no shame or guilt, because she is protecting her son. She is not ashamed of her own actions or worried about her own guilt.

[Windsor]

He spent a lot of time around her pubic area, including really studying her panties to have been on the beach and then to have her start shaking and having seizures, and the moon had to be exceptionally bright.

I don't believe they were on the beach.  If they were on the beach, they were in a beachfront hotel room.

[private eye]

Anita, you know Paulus better than any of us. Was his the behaviour of a fathert protecting his son, or was his the behavior of a guilty and embarrassed man? Or do you allow him to be with young women if recants the escapades to you as part of your sex life? Are you OK with him having sex with Joran? Do you have sex with Joran as well? Stop all of these rumors and just explain the dynamics of your family to us.

[Nut44x4]

http://www.coolaruba.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=293547


photos from the Teleruba Show with Patrick

[AZSunny]

Hi Monkeys~
I have a question about the prisons in Aruba and Curacao. I seem to recall a prison you tube video of a rap song done in the Curacao prison. I tried to find the video, no luck. In researching it, there was something about removing the lap tops from the prisoners?
My question is..Are the prisons in the Netherland Antilles different from the USA?

A little off topic but this was e-mailed to me today~
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona) who created the 'Tent City Jail':

 

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails.
Took away their weights Cut off all but 'G' movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He
Wouldn't Get Sued For Discrimination.
He took away cable TV Until he found out there was a Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For Jails so He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In the Disney Channel And The Weather Channel. When asked why the weather channel He Replied, so They Will Know How Hot Its Gonna Be While they Are Working ON My Chain Gangs.
He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value as well. 

Martini...it is all true!!  Huge ego, but he gets things done!

[Shell]

How do you reconcile the first few days of the case, with Anita having such accurate knowledge of Natalee's panties and pubic area, with his confession to Patrick?

Anita knows what went down that night.
She probably saw the panties. I have always felt like Natalee was on the Sloot property at some point that evening.

[Windsor]

back to workin' and lurkin'

[private eye]

What say you Anita? That is personal and private? I would imagine it is if that is true. Let's see, Paulus, Joran, Depaak, and Satish that we know of in one bed possibly. How cozy a picture is that. And tell us about Guido? How do Guido and Paulus get along?

[Magnolia]

Buckshot, it's around somewhere. That's the way I remember it. It was a small white pick-up (possibly a Toyota) and the license plate was registered to the ALE and it was the truck assigned to Van Der Straaten. That's a little bit clearer.

Maybe someone has that info stored.

that's the way I remember it anyway... and around the same time, someone came forward and said that someone stole a white trash bag from the Hyatt beach area.

It must have been a special kind of white trash bag for someone to even notice it was missing.

A witness saw it being grabbed from one of the large trash cans.

[JE]

He spent a lot of time around her pubic area, including really studying her panties to have been on the beach and then to have her start shaking and having seizures, and the moon had to be exceptionally bright.

I doubt that there was a bright moon. Joran said somewhere that there were no stars maybe it was clouded. Also in one of satishe's PV's they asked him about the light level in the car and about weather conditions.

from june 30

On your question of when Deepak, Joran and I were with Natalee on, May 30, 2005, in the nighttime hours, wasn’t it too dark in the car for Joran to see the color of the missing girl’s panties, I can only answer this:
There was enough light in the car of Deepak. Joran must have taken off the clothing of the girl so that he could see the color of the panties she wore.

from june 3

On your question of what it was like on Monday, May 30, 2005, in the nighttime hours, when Deepak and I dropped off Joran and the missing American girl north of the Marriott, I can answer you the following:
I cannot you say what it was like because I sat in my brother Deepak’s car.  I also didn’t look up to see if there were clouds.

[private eye]

I am with you. The first days of the case it was probably almost broken, and the most truth was probably spoken.

Didn't Mos re-arrest the boys the day the car was delivered to Patrick? Before filming could begin?

[Kat_Gram]

What was the sum / slant of the Teleruba program ?
Was it to trash anyone but Joran ? ie Patrick ?
My gut feeling is that if Mother Theresa were alive and made a comment favoring the family or Natalee, she would have " something"  in her background to disrespect and the answers would lie in Calcutta.