Natalee Case Discussion #739 3/3 - 3/5/08

[Observer]

Dec 15, 2005.....Beth Twitty:

...But as far as the letter goes, I just think that is something that really just—they could have addressed that personally.  I mean, I think we need to stay focused on the bloody tennis shoe that was found, the blood on the vehicle that was found

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10439299/

Yeh well then it went from having a bloody tennis shoe to searching for one missing shoe..To a pair of missing shoes size 14..Then a KLPD measures Jorans feet he doesnt even wear size 14 but a size 10.5   

The Blood in the vehicle turned out to be chocolate and cleaning fluids..If you look at the PV there is no name on it!!!!!!! All the other documents have a name but one of them at the NFI does not!!

[Buckeye]

Can't get it to open now...weird...but....it is The National Lab!!!

Google search...but won't open...

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STEPS Aruba 2006
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Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the abovementioned individuals and all the other ...
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[Observer]

Can't get it to open now...weird...but....it is The National Lab!!!

Google search...but won't open...

[PDF]
STEPS Aruba 2006
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Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the abovementioned individuals and all the other ...
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Hmmm Thats quite interesting! I have always wondered if Booshi was connected to Robert and Guido and I believe they are. Would not suprise me at all if that is Guido's Uncle Booshi!

[Buckeye]

Can't get it to open now...weird...but....it is The National Lab!!!

Google search...but won't open...

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STEPS Aruba 2006
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Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the abovementioned individuals and all the other ...
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Hmmm Thats quite interesting! I have always wondered if Booshi was connected to Robert and Guido and I believe they are. Would not suprise me at all if that is Uncle Booshi!

I gave up on trying to figure out island connections when they all had three+ names and then "street" names.   

[Buckeye]

I still contend there is something BIG with Guido.

The Dutch posters can correct me, but I think it is major to leave the school year, before it ends.  I think the whole year must be completed, not just the missed classes.  Guido was so close to graduating and left before completion.  I still think that is why they waited to arrest Joran until the day after he graduated.  Guido would have never left Dodge that fast without a BIG reason.

[Observer]

Can't get it to open now...weird...but....it is The National Lab!!!

Google search...but won't open...

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STEPS Aruba 2006
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Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the abovementioned individuals and all the other ...
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Hmmm Thats quite interesting! I have always wondered if Booshi was connected to Robert and Guido and I believe they are. Would not suprise me at all if that is Uncle Booshi!

I gave up on trying to figure out island connections when they all had three+ names and then "street" names.   

LOL! But then they change there name just slightly as well like Van Gijn,Van Rien,Van Der Straaten..Etc..I found the witness Sanches the other day from the Raquetball Club because his real last name is Sanchez.. Then you have two Candelerio Wevers or is it just one? Then we have names that are possibly just a coincidence like Max Arends and Max Arendsz 

[Buckeye]

Thank God for the turncoats: Renfro, Purcell....easy to remember and find...........

[Observer]

I still contend there is something BIG with Guido.

The Dutch posters can correct me, but I think it is major to leave the school year, before it ends.  I think the whole year must be completed, not just the missed classes.  Guido was so close to graduating and left before completion.  I still think that is why they waited to arrest Joran until the day after he graduated.  Guido would have never left Dodge that fast without a BIG reason.

Of Course..He also left his internship at the Excelsior plenty short as well..Just bought a brand new car which I think the ALE lied and said they were looking for a White rented Toyota...Of course they never found it because it was probably Guido's White Nissan..

But the Family will tell you he fled I mean had it all planned out that way..

We have these Dutch reports that say he fled to Canada and not Holland which I believe are true..If you read all the big arrests in Ontario that is where the sicilian Mob is..I think Guido went there until the smoked cleared then went to Holland for school. I bet there is no record of any college in Canada for Guido Wever.
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I noticed the closing remarks on this video.."One report out of Aruba is Guido is considered a alibi witness for Joran"...

May 21, 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iUKXXFreaY
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The arrested boy is hot Guido Wever, he has been detained and interrogated in the Netherlands. He is Aruba moved to Canada 14 days after Natalee disappeared. He was a croupier at the Holliday Inn and Casino has previously interrogated by the Aruban police. According to his lawyer Spong, the boy suspected of "complicity in murder, grievous bodily injury and deprivation of liberty of Natalee Holloway.

      The boy lived in Aruba and went to the Mon Plaisir School. The boy is also seen in the company of Natalee. He came to school with a lot of scratches on his body. The boy was almost done with school and would continue studying in the Netherlands. He asked his parents if he was allowed to Canada earlier. He was on two weeks after finished school when he heard of his possible arrest and then fled to the Netherlands.

      The boy, according to witness testimony on May 30, 2005 have been at school with scratches and injuries on his face. He would also be part of the group who were arrested earlier.

      He was previously interrogated as a witness, 3x by the Aruban police and twice by the Dutch police.

      Gerard Spong, the boy's lawyer, told the NOS news that the suspect is a friend of Joran van der Sloot - those are certain that he Natalee was last seen. Van der Sloot says he left Holloway alone on the beach after her gezoend to have.

      (Source: Awemainta & arubadirtypolice)
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The Algemeen Dagblad will publish this morning:

      Quote:
      The Utrecht police last week a former croupier arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and murder of Natalee Holloway on Aruba. Gerard Spong, lawyer of the suspect, a span today interim measures to prevent extradition to Aruba.

      The suspect, Guido W., is a Dutchman who lived in Aruba at the time of the loss of Holloway. W. Is a tennismaatje of Joran van der Sloot and worked three months as a trainee croupier at the casino in the hotel where Holloway stayed. On May 30, when Holloway was missing only a few hours, was W. Also work. "He looked strange,''recalls a member of the Aruban casino itself.,, He came within worrisome.''

      W. Worked a few days in the casino, but was previously on a dangepland. He departed in June to Canada to study. After Holloway's disappearance is W. Several times in Aruba and the Netherlands, heard as a witness.

      Holloway came during her vacation on Aruba often in the casino. Even on the last evening that she was seen alive, she was there. They with when Van der Sloot, who still is suspected of involvement in Holloway's disappearance. But he is due to a lack of evidence on free feet. The arrest of Guido W. Took place at the request of the Public Prosecutor's Office (OM) in Aruba. The suspect is stuck in Utrecht.
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http://forum.fok.nl/topic/837319/6/50 (translated)

[klaasend]

Can't get it to open now...weird...but....it is The National Lab!!!

Google search...but won't open...

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STEPS Aruba 2006
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Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the abovementioned individuals and all the other ...
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Buckeye - GREAT FIND!



Suspect multi-million fraud at National Lab arrested

ORANJESTAD – Upon request of the Aruban Public Prosecutor (OM), the American authorities have arrested a 53-year old man, who is suspected of embezzling 5 million florins at the National Lab, where he used to work.  The arrest took place in Miami last Saturday.

The National Lab reported a large-scale fraud late last year.  However, the former employee M.M.F. has already fled to Colombia at that time.  The OM issued an international warrant for the suspect’s arrest, and with success.  The American authorities tipped the OM when the suspect traveled to the US last Thursday.  “We issued a request for provisional arrest, which took place on Saturday”, said chief district attorney Hans Mos, who is very pleased with the good cooperation with the American authorities.

F. is suspected of embezzlement, forgery, fraud, and money laundering.  He was placing orders with non-existing suppliers in the US.  The media reported embezzlement of 10 million florins, but according to Mos, the amount is 5 million florins in five-year time.  F. was brought up in Florida today, whereby Aruba has submitted a request for his extradition.  If the suspect agrees with the extradition request, he will be sent to Aruba in two weeks.

[Castaglance]

Rob

If you are back with that "self cleaning" turkey girl, please order the precooked meal.

Nut

Rob has a turkey girl??? I am so confused...

[Buckeye]

Castaglance

Had to sign back on for this.

Your quote looks like Nut was confused, but I know it was you.

Rob had a girlfriend that cooked a turkey on the self cleaning oven setting.  Needless to say, there wasn't much to eat.  It was an early, funny, story.

[Observer]

Castaglance

Had to sign back on for this.

Your quote looks like Nut was confused, but I know it was you.

Rob had a girlfriend that cooked a turkey on the self cleaning oven setting.  Needless to say, there wasn't much to eat.  It was an early, funny, story.

Beef Jerkey Turkey? 

[ala_gunslinger]

Rob

If you are back with that "self cleaning" turkey girl, please order the precooked meal.

Nut

Thanks for all the links.  Long day today and it was nice to have the search done.  We seem to frequent the same sites. LOL

Ono


I remember the dump being emptied into ocean, the same as you described, but can't find info now.  Here is a link to interesting landfill info:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/28/background-information-on-arubas-landfill/#more-1335



I seem to recall a comment, I think by Jossy, about blood trace in a Sloot vehicle.  Does anyone remember that? TIA

Thanks Buckeye!   

We know they cut squares out of one of those cars on the seat and headliner. We also saw the Aruban Newspaper article that blood was found in one of the sloot vehicles. Not sure if the article was a typo or not.
The "Diario," a local daily newspaper, is reporting that a human blood sample found in a car at the residence of one of the teens in custody — the 17-year-old son of a high-ranking island judicuary official — is now being sent to the U.S. and will be tested for a possible match to Natalee, whose mother gave a blood sample to investigators.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html

and so the cover-up began!!!

[Buckeye]

Castaglance

Had to sign back on for this.

Your quote looks like Nut was confused, but I know it was you.

Rob had a girlfriend that cooked a turkey on the self cleaning oven setting.  Needless to say, there wasn't much to eat.  It was an early, funny, story.

Beef Jerkey Turkey? 

 

[Lala'sMom]

Can't get it to open now...weird...but....it is The National Lab!!!

Google search...but won't open...

[PDF]
STEPS Aruba 2006
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Robert Wever, PhD. from the National. Laboratory coordinated all the biochemical analyses. We thank all the abovementioned individuals and all the other ...
www.overheid.aw/index.asp?nmoduleid=4&wgid=6&spagetype=6&docid=1522 - Similar pages

Hmmm Thats quite interesting! I have always wondered if Booshi was connected to Robert and Guido and I believe they are. Would not suprise me at all if that is Uncle Booshi!

I gave up on trying to figure out island connections when they all had three+ names and then "street" names.   

LOL! But then they change there name just slightly as well like Van Gijn,Van Rien,Van Der Straaten..Etc..I found the witness Sanches the other day from the Raquetball Club because his real last name is Sanchez.. Then you have two Candelerio Wevers or is it just one? Then we have names that are possibly just a coincidence like Max Arends and Max Arendsz 

I bet you didn't know there is/was a Freddy Arends that is/was the supervisor of the San Nicolas Section of the Public Health Laboratory.  (Info courtesy of MuminOhio)

[ala_gunslinger]

Dec 15, 2005.....Beth Twitty:

...But as far as the letter goes, I just think that is something that really just—they could have addressed that personally.  I mean, I think we need to stay focused on the bloody tennis shoe that was found, the blood on the vehicle that was found

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10439299/

Yeh well then it went from having a bloody tennis shoe to searching for one missing shoe..To a pair of missing shoes size 14..Then a KLPD measures Jorans feet he doesnt even wear size 14 but a size 10.5   

The Blood in the vehicle turned out to be chocolate and cleaning fluids..If you look at the PV there is no name on it!!!!!!! All the other documents have a name but one of them at the NFI does not!!

Ah hah!  *******, wrong vehicle.

[ala_gunslinger]

Castaglance

Had to sign back on for this.

Your quote looks like Nut was confused, but I know it was you.

Rob had a girlfriend that cooked a turkey on the self cleaning oven setting.  Needless to say, there wasn't much to eat.  It was an early, funny, story.

Beef Jerkey Turkey? 

Uh Rob...

When we go fishin down here, we throw those back!

[sb]

Am I correct that that article quoted above said that GUIDO showed up for school the next day with scratches on his face?

WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD THIS BEFORE>

That is HUGE in my book, if it really is saying that. That's the kind of item that solves cases, because it puts people together doing common activities. It indicates of course that Guido was with Joran and Natalee... wherever... doing whatever... We have always wondered about what role Guido played in this, Valentine Youtube clips aside LOL.

[Observer]

I bet you didn't know there is/was a Freddy Arends that is/was the supervisor of the San Nicolas Section of the Public Health Laboratory.  (Info courtesy of MuminOhio)

Correct,I didn't know that. Whats Freddy doin for work nowadays anyways? Does he still have the hobby of filming underage girls and having sex with them when they are unconscious?

There is also a Deepak and Satish Daryanani in Aruba,
owner of the Aruba Internet Cafe. Also Web Designer of the Lions club. Similar to Kalpoes eh?

Speaking of the Lions Den we heard it was moved to Bonaire after Natalee dissapeared..I wonder if there is a connection with Van Der Straten since he also re-located to Bonaire about the same time?

[Observer]

Am I correct that that article quoted above said that GUIDO showed up for school the next day with scratches on his face?

WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD THIS BEFORE>

That is HUGE in my book, if it really is saying that. That's the kind of item that solves cases, because it puts people together doing common activities. It indicates of course that Guido was with Joran and Natalee... wherever... doing whatever... We have always wondered about what role Guido played in this, Valentine Youtube clips aside LOL.

Correct that was translated from PAPI/Awemainta newspaper and we know for a fact that 5 witnesses said he had long scratches on his face when he showed up for work at the Excelsior. His lawyer Spong even mentions it when he was arrested,but adds its easy to dispute. Well when you wait over a year to arrest someone,scratches heal and judging by the job the ALE did they probably never even took there names