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Am I allowed to post here? I don't speak Dutch but am Dutch American if that helps, lol.
I see the FBI written about above and I can't read if you understand or not that Natalee is not listed on the Missing Page. She is instead on another page where almost all the victims are known to have been murdered and Information is being sought.
She is with almost all MURDER victims and not the Missing as evidently the FBI does not consider her as missing but murdered. They are asking for information into her disappearance but do not call her simply missing as though we should be on the lookout for her but rather for information into her disappearance as though they consider her murdered without actually calling it that.
Hope this helps. That Renee is just lying about that.
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Op Witheet stond dat lange stuk van Renee Gielen met al de beledigingen over Natalee op 16-02-2008.
Stan de Jong, een andere Peter R hater schrijft ook op Witheet.
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anna you are welcome her
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Am I allowed to post here? I don't speak Dutch but am Dutch American if that helps, lol.
I see the FBI written about above and I can't read if you understand or not that Natalee is not listed on the Missing Page. She is instead on another page where almost all the victims are known to have been murdered and Information is being sought.
She is with almost all MURDER victims and not the Missing as evidently the FBI does not consider her as missing but murdered. They are asking for information into her disappearance but do not call her simply missing as though we should be on the lookout for her but rather for information into her disappearance as though they consider her murdered without actually calling it that.
Hope this helps. That Renee is just lying about that.
Anna
Thanks for the information Anna! On FOK-forum the trolls claim that Natalee is not on the missing list and make it thus look like it is very suspicious.
They try to suggest the FBI is involved in a cover up of the disappearance of Natalee.
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ja, de peter r. de vries-basher vinden elkaar allemaal op witheet.
zo voorspelbaar eigenlijk...
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Staat dat stuk van R gielen nog steeds op witheet ?
Een advocaat uit A 'dam is ook aan het onderzoeken wie
beth
zoal allemaal demoniseert !
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Wisten we dit al ??
http://showbizzradionl.bravejournal.com/entry/27620
Bram Moszkowicz, Peter R. de Vries, Beth Holloway en Patrick van der Eem zijn vanavond te gast in het programma van Robert Jensen op RTL 5. [..]. De uitzending met alle hoofdrolspelers in de zaak Natalee Holloway begint om 22.10 uur. “Voor het eerst op de televisie zitten deze hoofdrolspelers uit de zaak Holloway bij elkaar en praten ze na over de ontknoping. Ook belt informant Patrick van der Eem in de uitzending met Joran van der Sloot.”
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begint al aardig op fok te lijken hier
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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
Wisten we dit al ??
http://showbizzradionl.bravejournal.com/entry/27620
Bram Moszkowicz, Peter R. de Vries, Beth Holloway en Patrick van der Eem zijn vanavond te gast in het programma van Robert Jensen op RTL 5. [..]. De uitzending met alle hoofdrolspelers in de zaak Natalee Holloway begint om 22.10 uur. “Voor het eerst op de televisie zitten deze hoofdrolspelers uit de zaak Holloway bij elkaar en praten ze na over de ontknoping. Ook belt informant Patrick van der Eem in de uitzending met Joran van der Sloot.”
Bram Moszko zit vanavond ook bij Pauw en Witteman.
Het stuk van Renee Gielen zal vast nog wel bij Witheet te vinden. Gewoon over doorbladeren naar de juiste datum (10-02-2008).
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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 06:01:22 AM
de moeder van Lorenzo
De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest).
Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt
I don't need a translator for this post
If true -- that would explain a LOT.
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Quote from: sharon on March 05, 2008, 07:33:05 PM
Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 06:01:22 AM
de moeder van Lorenzo
De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest).
Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt
I don't need a translator for this post
If true -- that would explain a LOT.
Klaas would disagree with that for sure! SandraK says she is from Michigan
She is a crazy lady but has had this unique interest in Lorenzo and has since the beginning..The other day HannieC asked Glenda twice about Lorenzo's GF withdrawing his alibi the night Natalee went missing. She never answered him.
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The mother of Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, operates as a poster on a number of websites (as SandraK and Keywest). She said recently that she is on good footing with Robin Holloway, the wife of Dave Holloway. Of course, this is spicy, now that the former girlfriend of Lorenzo van Rijn withdrew her alibi on May 30, 2005
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Maxito Ahrends gave a formal statement as alibi for Lorenzo on the night in question. Bet he would be surprised to find himself called his "girlfriend" but there were six people at his home all of whom were spoken to by ALE unofficially.
There is no girlfriend alibi to recant.
But then I get accused of being related to Lorenzo as well. Also of having some sort of pro-Lorenzo agenda because I do not believe he is involved in any way whatsoever.
Sandra K also called Steve Croes "her baby" as well as Charles Croes. She doesn't mean it literally.
The "Lorenzo" described by Internet Lore does not exist and is a composite of several people named Lorenzo on the Island. For example, he has no connection to the Paint Ball Ranch some like to call his Rave House. This seems to be a little jokey some of the locals like to play on the tourists or perhaps they truly do not know any better.
But because I have continued to ask for one shred of evidence connecting him to any of this, I have also been accused of being related to him so you can see how that is pretty easily done. Also one poster has the same last name, lol, so guess she is as well.
In my opinion, if anyone has a slander/libel suit in this in addition to Beth and Natalee's family, it is Lorenzo. Hope someone gives him one of Bram's cards!
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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 06:01:22 AM
de moeder van Lorenzo
De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest). Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt
Hi Johan..Do you know where this info is coming from?
tj zegt:
Volgens een betrouwbare bron op Aruba heeft de vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn haar verklaring ingetrokken, Dit betekent dat Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi kwijt is en verdachte wordt in deze zaak..
http://www.kovandijkvertelt.nl/?p=792
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The mother of Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, operates as a poster on a number of websites (as SandraK and Keywest). She said recently that she is on good footing with Robin Holloway, the wife of Dave Holloway. Of course, this is spicy, now that the former girlfriend of Lorenzo van Rijn withdrew her alibi on May 30, 2005"
Well I think some of this could be true, at an old site not running anymore,
I forgot the name of it soda ?
SandraK was posting there and she was very nice to Robin.
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SandraK is NOT Astrid, I'd stake my life on it.
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astrid was also on the fok forum with the name astridd
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you can also install a google maps mod
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Er zijn een paar details waar nog best onderzoek naar kan worden gedaan. Mij is nog steeds niet helemaal helder hoe het nou zit met die
telefooncel bij het Marriott
: kon je daar nu wel of niet lokaal mee bellen? Dat moet toch simpel vast te stellen zijn, is er niemand op Aruba die daar even voor ons wil kijken? De Grijze, of De Witte, ik noem maar wat. Ik had graag gezien dat Patrick daar ook meer over had gevraagd: waarom Joran niet met zijn mobieltje belde. Is toch een heel
cruciaal
punt. En als ermee is gebeld, zijn die gegevens dan niet meer te achterhalen? Volgens de Telegraaf werkt de telefoon alleen te werken met een creditcard, tenzij er een collect-callgesprek wordt aangevraagd naar Canada of Amerika. De vraag is: kun je met de creditcard lokaal bellen? Als Joran dat heeft gedaan, moet toch na te gaan zijn
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Lorenzo van Rijn
die zoon is van ene Paul en Astrid van Rijn. Zijn ouders hadden ooit het autobedrijf Van Rijn Dieselservice BV in Haarlem, voordat men dat verkocht en in 1983 naar Aruba verhuisden. Volgens het bevolkingsregister is Lorenzo op 25 september 1981 geboren in het Nederlandse Haarlem. De bewuste Lorenzo zou door de zelfmoord van zijn vader Paul van Rijn danig zijn ontspoord. Het Openbaar Ministerie op Aruba wil niet bevestigen of deze Lorenzo van Rijn in het Holloway-dossier voorkomt en maar wil wel bevestigen dat een man met een vergelijkbare naam voor overtredingen van ondermeer de
Opiumwet
in hun bestand voorkomt.
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the name of the site is soda ?
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