Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) DUTCH & English

[johan555]

Another lost person in Aruba.  spring 2004


This young man was lost in Aruba in the spring of 2004. The mother still has no clear answer as to what happened to Max. No death certificate, no police report, and no help from the US or Aruban government. He went out on a jet ski with someone from the hotel that they were at, and never came back. Lost at sea.

[Buckeye]

Another lost person in Aruba.  spring 2004


This young man was lost in Aruba in the spring of 2004. The mother still has no clear answer as to what happened to Max. No death certificate, no police report, and no help from the US or Aruban government. He went out on a jet ski with someone from the hotel that they were at, and never came back. Lost at sea.

I believe the Aruban disinformation media posted sightings of this poor kid in Brazil and declared it an insurance fraud.  I don't know all the facts.  But a bunch of lies were generated.  ******* probably knows more.

[johan555]

i found it here  http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/aruba_update_an.html

[Buckeye]

Rob

Has been in contact with Max's mom Yvonne (sp?).  Rob will post some info, on this thread, tomorrow.

[johan555]

September 2005
Zoon plaatsvervangend rechter (Joran) blijft verdachte in zaak Holloway ivm naaktfoto's 14-jarige .
Joran emotioneel tijdens verhoren: 'ik wil gewoon naar huis'
Maar misschien bedoelt hij naar de disco of het casino, gelet op zijn bezigheden vóór zijn voorlopige hechtenis
(foto : jongedame is niet Natalee, gelijkenis wel opmerkelijk).



Terwijl de media in Nederland hetzelfde berichten (van het ANP), namelijk dat Joran van der S., verdachte in de zaak van de op Aruba vermiste Amerikaanse Natalee Holloway, morgen mogelijk op vrije voeten komt, biedt de Antilliaanse krant Amigoe meer details.

Deze kwaliteitskrant meldt dat rechter-commissaris Smid één dezer dagen uitspraak doet over de verlenging van de detentie van Joran van der S. met dertig dagen en de verlenging van de bewaring van de broers K. met acht dagen.

Woensdag werden de drie verdachten in de Holloway-zaak met elkaar geconfronteerd.

Naaktfoto's meisje (14) toegevoed aan dossier Joran?

Naast de oorspronkelijke aanklacht tegen Van der S. zijn volgens zijn advocaat Anthony Carlo twee nieuwe feiten toegevoegd. Een daarvan is gerelateerd aan de Holloway-zaak; de andere betreft naaktfoto’s die van een 14-jarig meisje zijn gemaakt.
Elgin Zeppenfeldt is de advocaat van Satish K. en -geen expert in onderkleding- beweert dat het geen naaktfoto’s zijn, hooguit een 'soort bikini of ondergoed'. 'Als er naaktfoto’s zijn, dan zaten die niet bij onze stukken en dienen ze dus ook niet als bewijs', aldus Zeppenfeldt tegenover de Antilliaanse krant. De Hindoestaanse gebroeders K. werden op 4 juli vrijgelaten, maar vorige week opnieuw ingesloten.

Advocaat Carlo over zijn cliënt Joran: 'Hij zei tegen de rechter dat hij naar huis wil. Hij houdt vol dat hij onschuldig is en wil gewoon terug naar huis. Hij zit al drie maanden vast, maar wil erg graag doorgaan met zijn leven.' De confrontatie van de drie verdachten met elkaar bleef overigens een 'welles-nietes spelletje', aldus Zeppenfeldt tegen Amigoe.

[Rob]

Hi, I guess some are asking about Max DeVries.

Here's what I know and it comes from Max's Mom Yvonne and my own research.

Prior to the trip to Aruba in 2004, Max's Father George died. This occurred 18 months before the trip. Yvonne had two children with George. Max and Dominique. These are Yvonne's only children. Max was the older and Dominique about few years younger. Dominique was born a premature baby and has had some challenges related to that.

After the death of George the family began to heal and celebrate that they were still a family and a strong one at that. They decided to take the trip to Aruba to celebrate they were all still together and going strong. Losing the Father had to be a big blow to young small children.

When they arrived on Aruba they were booked at La Cabana and were having a terrific time. A few days into the trip a man named David Stacey Sr. (age 52 approximately) and his adopted son David Stacey Jr (Age 31 approximately) indicated that they had been watching the kids on a pool slide and in the rec room. Yvonne found out that David Stacey had recently adopted David Stacey Jr. I'm not sure when she discovered he adopted Mr. Stacey Jr. She thought it was odd that an older man was adopting a fully grown man. I do not know David Stacey Junior's given name.

The Staceys inserted themselves in the daily activities of the DeVries. David Stacey Jr. asked Max to play pool in the rec room and Yvonne said that would be ok. Yvonne indicated that she felt later (looking back) that they were stalked by the two. Perhaps the Staceys thought Max might be an easy mark as there were no older men around - no father.

Yvonne budgeted the trip and felt that doing each water sport activity would be sufficient. She did not plan on two or three adventures on each of the activities. Some of these can be rather expensive. Jet-Skiing is about 35 dollars for a half an hour.

Max had already done the majority of the water activities when David Stacey Jr asked Max to go Jet Skiing. Yvonne said no. He had already gone and she didn't want to pay. DS Jr said he would pay. Yvonne reluctantly agreed. When Max returned from the Jet Skiing he told his mom that they had broken the rules of the Jet Ski company and had gone beyond a sand bar. Yvonne was disappointed that Max had broken the rules but glad he had told her the truth. Max always told the truth according to Yvonne and she was glad to know he had that character.

A few days later (could be even the following day) David Stacey SR. asked Max to once again to go Jet Skiing. Max said he could not. He had already been twice and he said no way would his mother allow it after he had broken the rules and she would never pay for it.

David Stacey Sr said he would ask Yvonne and he would pay for it. Yvonne was approached by David Stacey Sr and she reluctantly agreed to keep from disappointing Max. She did not want Max to go again, but did agree.

Max promised that they would not go beyond the allotted time or distance. David Stacey Sr and Max departed.

Approximately 45 minutes later Yvonne was starting to worry as they should have been back a few minutes prior. They did not return. Yvonne alerted Beach Patrol and they started to inquire where the two were. I guess they radioed around to find them and no luck. The Jet Ski company then started to also look. They knew they should have been back by then. The Jet Ski company knew were missing first as the time had expired on their session. Yvonne was getting very worried as Max had said he would not break the rules.

The Jet Ski company gave instructions prior to departure about what to do in case of a stalled Jet Ski. They were to tie the skis together front to back.

David Stacey Sr was found in possession of both Jet Skis roughly six miles out and off shore and six miles down from La Cabana. This would be off the southern coast of Aruba in the area of Savenata. The Jet Skis were not tied in the proper fashion.

When David Stacey Sr was found he had scratches all over his body and a few bruises. Yvonne was told that ONE person was found. Yvonne immediately knew it was not Max or they would have told her Max was found to relieve her worry. Yvonne and Dominique were taken to the Polis station. I'm not sure which one, most likely Bubali as that was the closest station to La Cabana.

When she arrived at the station David Stacey Sr. was not around. Yvonne asked where Mr. Stacey was and a polis officer told her he was in the shower. She asked why he was allowed to take a shower and was told he was cold and they allowed it. She immediately knew all evidence was most likely gone. This is when she discovered the scratches and bruises on David Stacey Sr. 

David Stacey Jr. is not indicated to be at the polis station at this time. David Stacey Sr said that Max has fallen off of his jet ski and went under the water and did not re-surface.

Yvonne gave a statement and David Stacey Sr also gave his version of the events. The "loss" of Max is considered an accident. There was no desire to investigate David Stacey Sr or David Stacey Jr. by the polis investigators. It was all over lickity split. Yvonne decided it was time to leave. She did not wish to stay on Aruba. While at the airport she saw the Staceys leaving also. David Stacey Sr only had a small bag and no other luggage. She wondered how someone could be on a trip for a week or ten days and have no luggage.

To date, almost 4 years, Yvonne has received no official documents from anyone on Aruba. Max is not classified as dead and there is no death certificate. Again, NO DOCUMENTS. Yvonne has indicated to me she is wrought with worry that Max is / was a sex slave, and could be a drug mule.

After returning to the States and Michigan, Yvonne started the Max to the Millions foundation in Max's name.

http://www.maxtothemillions.com/

Several posts from my blog about Max DeVries.

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/05/max-devries.html

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/05/max-to-millions-reminder.html

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/05/max-to-millions-reminder.html

This one has a good bit of info
http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/04/amigoecom-uses-propaganda-and.html

More info here
http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/03/what-is-aruba-hiding.html

Dirty Cops involved in Natalee's and Max's cases respectively.
http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/03/aruban-valor-or-lack-of-it_7767.html

Max to the Millions helps others
http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/03/pay-it-forward.html





 

[johan555]

Kijk Renee Gielen is in feite een schaakstukje van een groter geheel .
Een db tje die doet wat haar opgedragen wordt .
Ze wil graag programma's maken en dringt zich enorm op bij allerlei omroepen om maar geld los te peuteren voor wat " draaidagen " .
Ze omringt zich met allerlei mediums die allerlei uitspraken doen die precies in haar straatje passen .Een andere medestander van haar is ene Bou uit Zeeland die zich mr noemt en psychologe ,deze vrouw spoort niet ,want zegt bijv dat 9/11 een aardbeving was en dat er bommen zijn ontploft in opdracht van de regering .
Zolang je maar lang genoeg ( 3 jaar nu ) blijft roepen dat de fam Holoway er zelf achter zit en verder alle andere mensen onschuldig zijn ,zullen er best mensen zijn die daar op den duur ook in gaan geloven . Het enige wat ze concreet aangeeft zijn de blik uit de ogen van een taxi chauffeur en aankomst tijden die volgens haar niet kloppen .
Ook doet Renee Gielen allerlei uitspraken waarvan ze later blijkbaar spijt heeft ,want ze kan niks hard maken .
Ze is zelfs gevraagd om hier eens mee te posten ,maar dan geeft ze geen thuis .
wllicht bang om door de mand te vallen een andere verklaring is er niet .
Ook haar trollen hebben het hier niet gered !
Mijn therorie is dat fam vd sloot en de arubaanse regering haar opdracht heeft gegeven om dit op deze manier te doen ,want het zou weleens zo kunnen zijn dat als echt alles aan het licht komt
er ook koppen gaan rollen op regerings nivo en net daaronder .
wordt vervolgd .

[johan555]

What a story Rob .
Is that a Dutch family ?
Devries is a dutch name
Was there any investigation ? in the water etc .?
Were lives David Stacey ?
Scratches all over his body ,was there a fight ?
Are there any sharp pics of Max ?

[johan555]

La Cabana Beach  is near the  Racquet Club on Aruba

[Observer]

To our friends across the Pond

I will be gone for a few week's moving across the United States,I hope you continue to be a part of Scaredmonkeys and make yourself home here. These American and Canadians have devoted almost three years of there life all for the love of Natalee and her Family and the terrible injustice that has occured. I assure you they have no plans on ever giving up no matter how slow it gets. We all speak the same language of seeking out the truth,demanding answers and showing our support that this will finally be solved.

It brings a tear to my eye seeing you gain the knowledge and learning the truth and not feeding into the Mis-Information that has been rampant since June 2005. Together we can make a difference and I believe we have already done that! I do not think it is a coincidence that we are all here together as I believe it was made to be that way.

Caesu,Johan,Katrien,Flipper,Letsgetthissolved,JE,Jo-ANN,GMBH and the rest of the Dutch that lurk here please don't give up. You bring so much to this forum and to this case and it is truly appreciated. You are all a perfect example of the greatness of the Dutch People. See you in a few weeks!

Your Friend,

*******

[johan555]

Are you going out without your laptop ?
Have a nice time ******* !
And thanks for all your time and work on the fok forum
Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) 1 - 18419 views
2-6500 views.
3-5543.
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[Observer]

Are you going out without your laptop ?
Have a nice time ******* !
And thanks for all your time and work on the fok forum
Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) 1 - 18419 views
2-6500 views.
3-5543.
4-4045 views
5-5542
6-6169
7-4723
8-5501
9-4539
10-3066
11-5061
12-5739
13-6029
14-6998 till now

No Laptop It's pretty remarkeable Johan,as Natalee in the rebound is approaching 100,000 hits!! Think of all the people that look for your posts and you educated about the truth!! You have gained much respect from the Dutch and English posters and it is well deserved You have told the story about this Family that some didn't want you to tell,you made Natalee,Beth,Dave and Jug all seem human to the Dutch people and I appreciate that greatly! They are the victims here and Thank You for spending the time and the effort telling there story,you are truly a blessing to both forums. Please keep it up until I can get back online. Natalee I am sure is very proud of you!! 

[GBMW]

To our friends across the Pond

I will be gone for a few week's moving across the United States,I hope you continue to be a part of Scaredmonkeys and make yourself home here. These American and Canadians have devoted almost three years of there life all for the love of Natalee and her Family and the terrible injustice that has occured. I assure you they have no plans on ever giving up no matter how slow it gets. We all speak the same language of seeking out the truth,demanding answers and showing our support that this will finally be solved.

It brings a tear to my eye seeing you gain the knowledge and learning the truth and not feeding into the Mis-Information that has been rampant since June 2005. Together we can make a difference and I believe we have already done that! I do not think it is a coincidence that we are all here together as I believe it was made to be that way.

Caesu,Johan,Katrien,Flipper,Letsgetthissolved,JE,Jo-ANN,GMBH and the rest of the Dutch that lurk here please don't give up. You bring so much to this forum and to this case and it is truly appreciated. You are all a perfect example of the greatness of the Dutch People. See you in a few weeks!

Your Friend,

*******

Hi *******, thank you for your kind words & good luck these coming weeks! Moving accross the US must be a hell of a job....

[Rob]

What a story Rob .
Is that a Dutch family ?
Devries is a dutch name
Was there any investigation ? in the water etc .?
Were lives David Stacey ?
Scratches all over his body ,was there a fight ?
Are there any sharp pics of Max ?

Hello Johan555,
Yes her husband appears to have Dutch heritage. But I am not completely sure.

The authorities never investigated anything. They never even tried to make it look like they cared.

I believe David Stacey may also live in Michigan, but I am not 100% sure.

The scratches would indicate some type of altercation, and at a minimum, would indicate that David Stacey Sr. did not give a complete version of the events. I *think* Yvonne would have noticed scratches all over his body prior to Max leaving with him. Apparently there were no scratches before they left to jet ski.

There are a few more pictures on my blog... just click the links I provided.

[Rob]

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Max and Dominique

[johan555]

is it here  ?