Natalee Case Discussion #740 3/5 - 3/7/08

[Tamikosmom]

The involvement of the prosecutor implies that "lost in translation" is not where it is at as far as Patrick's words regarding who assisted in disposing of Natalee Holloways remains.

Janet

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http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3498985/_Aruba_wil_gesprek_Van_der_Eem__.html

binnenland

vr 07 mrt 2008, 17:46
Justitie Aruba wil kopie gesprek Van der Eem

ARUBA -  Het Openbaar Ministerie op Aruba heeft een kopie gevraagd van het gesprek dat een lokale tv-presentator met Patrick van der Eem heeft gevoerd. Van der Eem, de Arubaanse Nederlander die Joran van der Sloot uitspraken wist te ontlokken over de verdwijing van Natalee Holloway, zou in het programma Un Dia den Bida hebben gezegd dat hij Van der Sloot al jaren kende voordat Peter R. de Vries hem vroeg undercover te gaan.

Het OM wil vaststellen wat er precies is gezegd door Van der Eem. Als het gesprek relevant is voor een eventuele rechterlijke beslissing in de strafzaak tegen Van der Sloot, dan zal het OM de beelden toevoegen aan het strafdossier, liet justitie vrijdag weten. „Naar die relevantie doen wij nu onderzoek.”

Tv-presentator Poentje Castro zei vrijdag dat Van der Eem hem met de dood heeft bedreigd naar aanleiding van het heimelijk opgenomen gesprek. De beelden zijn nog niet op de Arubaanse televisie getoond, maar waren wel deels te zien op YouTube.

Het OM liet vrijdag weten dat de gefilmde gesprekken tussen Joran van der Sloot en Van der Eem in diens auto op zich zelf staan. „De recente uitlatingen van Van der Eem op Aruba doen daar niets aan af”, aldus justitie.

[Observer]

But instead he was recorded saying that he knew who had dumped Natalee’s body at sea and that Van der Sloot had asked him for €2,000 to buy the man’s silence, the Telegraaf reports.

Why would Patrick buy this persons silence who dumped Natalee's body? That doesn't make any sense!

Van der Eem was also heard saying he had known Van der Sloot for several years. On Peter R de Vries’ tv programme, he claimed he befriended the Dutch student in a Nijmegen casino in 2007.

This reporting can't get any worse! The interviewer already said there was a mistake in translation and that Patrick never said he knew Joran for years!

[Nut44x4]

Glenda wrote:


According to people trying to call Patrick, he is no where to be found. He is not taking calls.... Not even Greta can find him. 

PATRICK IS MISSING!
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[Tamikosmom]

Pronkjewail wrote:


So, according to this tvpresenter Patrick has claimed to know who dumped Natalees body in the ocean. This person lives in Holland AND is hiding with Joran at the moment?

Geez, this case really gets freakier by the minute. Who needs the Bold& the Beautiful when you can follow this case????


http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

link via resigned

Thanks Nut.

Janet

[Observer]

Pronkjewail wrote:


So, according to this tvpresenter Patrick has claimed to know who dumped Natalees body in the ocean. This person lives in Holland AND is hiding with Joran at the moment?

Geez, this case really gets freakier by the minute. Who needs the Bold& the Beautiful when you can follow this case????


http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

link via resigned

Hmm...Anyone seen Koen Gottenbos lately?

[caesu]

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

Poentje says that Patrick has said that Joran is in hiding in the netherlands together with the person who dumped Natalee in ocean.

[Dihannah1]

FOX NEWS - VENEZUELA CROSSES INTO COLOMBIA AND FIRES SHOTS.

LOL,  sorry THAT's not funny, but FOX just reported and showed video of Columbian President getting up and walking over to the other presidents (Chavez and Ecuador) shaking hands and even hugging other top aides.  It's supposedly over now, as Columbians Prez, just did that and then said it's "over".    So, all is well now. 

[caesu]

also SBS6 had a certified translator confirm the Revu's translation.

this was in the early edition of Hart van Nederland.
the follow up program starts in a minute.
i expect more about this or a reaction from Peter R. / Patrick

SBS6 is the same channel Peter R. has his program on.

[blah]

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

Poentje says that Patrick has said that Joran is in hiding in the netherlands together with the person who dumped Natalee in ocean.

so Paulus is in the Netherlands?

[JE]

Pronkjewail wrote:


So, according to this tvpresenter Patrick has claimed to know who dumped Natalees body in the ocean. This person lives in Holland AND is hiding with Joran at the moment?

Geez, this case really gets freakier by the minute. Who needs the Bold& the Beautiful when you can follow this case????


http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

link via resigned

Hmm...Anyone seen Koen Gottenbos lately?

or guido wever? i thought gottenbos was in the US?

[JE]

Destiny,
   I was reading around yesterday in different places here and believe I read that one of the black security gaurds was talking about a guy that was always on the beach every single day and then suddenly gone...Maybe someone else is familiar with this story?

Yes it is from the PV of Solvert Reneska talking about the thug "M" and the slim white guy.

http://homepage.mac.com/mcgraw.kalpoe.docs/.Public/Statements/reneskajuly8.pdf

His name is Marlon Celaire

[private eye]

Julia is one of the hardest working members of the coverup and misinformation task force. Her primary mission is to ensure that Beth is sentenced to a living hell for the rest of her life.

Why Julia? What's in it for you? Why do you think you can act so reprehensibly, so brazenly, so callously?

I hope one day, that I find a photo of you, hung up by the neck, with your hand in your pocket. I'll say I knew who that bitch. She finally did the right thing. And I won't lose one minutes sleep over it.

[klaasend]

[Observer]

Pronkjewail wrote:


So, according to this tvpresenter Patrick has claimed to know who dumped Natalees body in the ocean. This person lives in Holland AND is hiding with Joran at the moment?

Geez, this case really gets freakier by the minute. Who needs the Bold& the Beautiful when you can follow this case????


http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

link via resigned

Hmm...Anyone seen Koen Gottenbos lately?

or guido wever? i thought gottenbos was in the US?

Sander and Koen are most likely in the Eindhoven area. Sander plays for FC-Eindhoven

http://www.fc-eindhoven.nl/html/Jeugdopleiding/nl-NL/pages/teamg/index.html?idd=59&s=1&team=3

[Blonde]

If this is the same link Klaas please delete it , I have the flu and i'm a little nuts today TY
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

[Observer]

Julia is one of the hardest working members of the coverup and misinformation task force. Her primary mission is to ensure that Beth is sentenced to a living hell for the rest of her life.

Why Julia? What's in it for you? Why do you think you can act so reprehensibly, so brazenly, so callously?

I hope one day, that I find a photo of you, hung up by the neck, with your hand in your pocket. I'll say I knew who that bitch. She finally did the right thing. And I won't lose one minutes sleep over it.

She will get her's in good time and no one will lose any sleep over it,not even the Arubans....

[klaasend]

If this is the same link Klaas please delete it , I have the flu and i'm a little nuts today TY
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

Carpe's youtubes are very popular 

[Frijole]

Glenda wrote:


According to people trying to call Patrick, he is no where to be found. He is not taking calls.... Not even Greta can find him. 

PATRICK IS MISSING!
~~~~~~~~~

LOL  Well hell, Aruba will never be able to find him.  They couldn't find Natalee.

[JE]

Pronkjewail wrote:


So, according to this tvpresenter Patrick has claimed to know who dumped Natalees body in the ocean. This person lives in Holland AND is hiding with Joran at the moment?

Geez, this case really gets freakier by the minute. Who needs the Bold& the Beautiful when you can follow this case????


http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/6525/Van_der_Eem_bedreigt_tv_presentator

link via resigned

Hmm...Anyone seen Koen Gottenbos lately?

or guido wever? i thought gottenbos was in the US?

Sander and Koen are most likely in the Eindhoven area. Sander plays for FC-Eindhoven

http://www.fc-eindhoven.nl/html/Jeugdopleiding/nl-NL/pages/teamg/index.html?idd=59&s=1&team=3

Sander Gottenbos heeft tijdens het seizoen de Jeugdopleiding van FC Eindhoven verlaten.

Sander Gottenbos has left the youth training programme of FC Eindhoven during the season

[Blonde]

Here is a good photo showing the simple padlock on the door at the huts:

It is from this site, apparently 2003:

http://www.island-temptations.com/old/summer03/story4/

I believe the green doors are on the back of the huts, but someone can confirm this.

ARUBA TODAY
Julia Renfro….Editor

ISLAND TEMPTATIONS Magazine
Julia Renfro….Photography
Heleen Bongers…..Editor

WATERSPORT Co. Owners
Julia Renfro
Heleen & Erik Bongers

Based on the collaboration between Renfro and Renée Gielen in the recent Amigoe articles, it looks like Julia might be trying out her hand at tabloid reporting, in preparation for her reputed new job with The Globe magazine.




and there is this caption ~ (Left) Heidi Munzenhoffer modeling her own design