Natalee Case Discussion #741 3/7 - 3/10/08

[Bearlyhere]

What kind of security business do Mos and Paulus have to talk about?

I may have missed a post but I don't know why you are asking this question?  Was it reported that Mos wanted to talk to Paulus about security? 

Klaas ... maybe the following words of Joran is what Bearlyhere is referring to.  I believe that Joran may have been referring to security for him because of the Peter Devries' video recording.

Janet

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Joran Van der Sloot
Pauw & Witteman
(Phone Interview/Grandma's house)
February 4, 2008

<snipped>

Joran: Yes, well I don't know, I don't know it all. I have talked to my parents and my lawyer, and I just don't know what's happening now. I don't know what the OM is thinking. I think they are going to investigate it all, and it will show that it is not that way.

Question: you have contact with your dad, does your dad have contact with the OM?

Joran: I don't know, I think he had a conversation with Mr. Mos, but it's only about security.

Question: Oh so it was not about an new investigation?

<snipped>


AMIGOE
February 9, 2008

<snipped>

“The cameras were all around his house”, informed district attorney Dop Kruimel.  “He had to take on a lawyer for the contact with us.”

If necessary, the OM will also protect the suspect Joran van der Sloot

<snipped>

I was going to ask you but I didn't want to impose. 

I knew you could find it in a nanosecond.
               

[Noly]

i didn't know if you all have seen this.  i've not seen it before!

 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3962566

Description:  Clip we shot in (oh so dangerous) Aruba (Right Natalee?!)

[Bearlyhere]

Good Night Monkeys.

Janet
9:00 PM

Nite Janet.

[Bearlyhere]

Truthseeker,
I agree and it is the Game that is being protected, not any one particular spawn or even his father.

Going to go watch the snow before snoozing!

G'nite, all!

.

Nite Anna!

[texasmom]

Maybe i m wrong but i think Jules D. and the location Rotterdam
refers to this guy



public figure, writer, poet, tv personality, he even looks like a tango dancer LOL
Night Mayor of Rotterdam dressses in black always
Jules Deelder

I think it's a joke

Yes, it may be a joke but I wanted to check it out and this guy gives me the heebie jeebies....I thought I was going to jump out of my skin before his webpage finished loading....

http://www.deelder.com/ WARNING: Shocking
When the page is loaded, click on "Deedler Shop" then click on "Music".  The CD titled Deelder Draait, notice the title of the third track down

"Red Holloway Sextet-Monkey Sho Can Talk" 

This is some other information I found:

http://www.allbiographies.com/classify-JulesDeelder-42686.html

name: Deelder, Jules 

pronunciation: [daylder]

sex:  male
 
lived:  (1944– )

biography:  Performer, poet, and novelist, born in Rotterdam, W Netherlands. Central themes in his work are his love for jazz music, Sparta football club, and his fascination for both world wars. In his home town of Rotterdam, he is called the ‘Night Mayor of Rotterdam’ by way of an honorary title. Typical of his performances is the speed and rhythm with which he recites, a style also reflected in his writing.

search classifications for: Deelder, Jules
Entertainments - circus, show, puppets - and entertainers - comedians, song & dance, magicians, conjurors, performers, showmen, performance artists, escapologists, clowns

Poets (do later breakdown: classical, 20th, etc)

Novelists in general

Netherlands, Aruba, Netherlands Antilles

major works for: Deelder, Jules
1969 Gloria Satoria

1978 Modern passé

1992 Jazz

1994 Geheid Deelder


Copied this but failed to copy the link:
Hollands second favorite junkie, 1st class poet and excellent old school jazz DJ.

My gut says more like a friend of PVDS.  And something in my head kept saying "folllowwwww the muuussssicccccc"
 

[Bearlyhere]

Bearly - I think they are referring to security for Joran because he was getting death threats.

Thanks, Klaas.  Joran must have better security than Aruba.

[klaasend]

i didn't know if you all have seen this.  i've not seen it before!

 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3962566

Description:  Clip we shot in (oh so dangerous) Aruba (Right Natalee?!)

Yes, I do remember seeing this one a long time ago but had forgotten all about it:

[Observer]

Dave was in BFN chat tonight..Didn't really see anything new that we didn't know..He just confirmed my question that Joran was picked up by the Bus stop in Savaneta by Lorenzo's house the day after Natalee dissapeared. He added that PVDS said he dropped him off there.

[hotping]

Maybe i m wrong but i think Jules D. and the location Rotterdam
refers to this guy



public figure, writer, poet, tv personality, he even looks like a tango dancer LOL
Night Mayor of Rotterdam dressses in black always
Jules Deelder

I think it's a joke

Yes, it may be a joke but I wanted to check it out and this guy gives me the heebie jeebies....I thought I was going to jump out of my skin before his webpage finished loading....

http://www.deelder.com/ WARNING: Shocking
When the page is loaded, click on "Deedler Shop" then click on "Music".  The CD titled Deelder Draait, notice the title of the third track down

"Red Holloway Sextet-Monkey Sho Can Talk" 

This is some other information I found:

http://www.allbiographies.com/classify-JulesDeelder-42686.html

name: Deelder, Jules 

pronunciation: [daylder]

sex:  male
 
lived:  (1944– )

biography:  Performer, poet, and novelist, born in Rotterdam, W Netherlands. Central themes in his work are his love for jazz music, Sparta football club, and his fascination for both world wars. In his home town of Rotterdam, he is called the ‘Night Mayor of Rotterdam’ by way of an honorary title. Typical of his performances is the speed and rhythm with which he recites, a style also reflected in his writing.

search classifications for: Deelder, Jules
Entertainments - circus, show, puppets - and entertainers - comedians, song & dance, magicians, conjurors, performers, showmen, performance artists, escapologists, clowns

Poets (do later breakdown: classical, 20th, etc)

Novelists in general

Netherlands, Aruba, Netherlands Antilles

major works for: Deelder, Jules
1969 Gloria Satoria

1978 Modern passé

1992 Jazz

1994 Geheid Deelder


Copied this but failed to copy the link:
Hollands second favorite junkie, 1st class poet and excellent old school jazz DJ.

My gut says more like a friend of PVDS.  And something in my head kept saying "folllowwwww the muuussssicccccc"
 

TM... This is Weird...I hope one of Our Dutch posters can somehow listen to it and tell Us what it says....

[klaasend]

Dave was in BFN chat tonight..Didn't really see anything new that we didn't know..He just confirmed my question that Joran was picked up by the Bus stop in Savaneta by Lorenzo's house the day after Natalee dissapeared. He added that PVDS said he dropped him off there.

Sometimes I wonder if Dave hasn't been given a bunch of false information.  How can we believe anything out of Aruba?

[Observer]

Dave was in BFN chat tonight..Didn't really see anything new that we didn't know..He just confirmed my question that Joran was picked up by the Bus stop in Savaneta by Lorenzo's house the day after Natalee dissapeared. He added that PVDS said he dropped him off there.

Sometimes I wonder if Dave hasn't been given a bunch of false information.  How can we believe anything out of Aruba?

Your right! Tonight a birdy was in the chat room saying Hans Mos called and emailed her saying Lorenzo and Daury were not involved!  I laughed harder at that then I did last night at the No Frosted Flakes No work from Jacobs..  Amazing what lenghths people will go to tell mis-information! Just breaks my heart seeing people do that to Dave 

[Bearlyhere]

Dave was in BFN chat tonight..Didn't really see anything new that we didn't know..He just confirmed my question that Joran was picked up by the Bus stop in Savaneta by Lorenzo's house the day after Natalee dissapeared. He added that PVDS said he dropped him off there.

Sometimes I wonder if Dave hasn't been given a bunch of false information.  How can we believe anything out of Aruba?

Your right! Tonight a birdy was in the chat room saying Hans Mos called and emailed her saying Lorenzo and Daury were not involved!  I laughed harder at that then I did last night at the No Frosted Flakes No work from Jacobs..  Amazing what lenghths people will go to tell mis-information! Just breaks my heart seeing Dave go through this though

They give us so much material to work with!

       

[texasmom]

Dave was in BFN chat tonight..Didn't really see anything new that we didn't know..He just confirmed my question that Joran was picked up by the Bus stop in Savaneta by Lorenzo's house the day after Natalee dissapeared. He added that PVDS said he dropped him off there.

Sometimes I wonder if Dave hasn't been given a bunch of false information.  How can we believe anything out of Aruba?

Your right! Tonight a birdy was in the chat room saying Hans Mos called and emailed her saying Lorenzo and Daury were not involved!  I laughed harder at that then I did last night at the No Frosted Flakes No work from Jacobs..  Amazing what lenghths people will go to tell mis-information!

 

[Finbar]

JE close up of the boots from March of 05

opps, forgot the original

So, why do the shoes appear to be orange?

Then I remembered my time spent on a clay tennis court. Leaves the shoes with clay dust.

I used Google Earth but could not find a clay court at the RC. But around the green ones there is a rectangular ring of - clay.

Odd. I have never seen a court surrounded by clay before.

That would explain why the tennis shoes look like boots. The clay colour.

Fin

[Observer]

All I can say about the boots/shoes he is wearing on stage is they do not look very big. Certainly not a size 14!IMO

[Observer]

I see there is a few Van Der Sloots here in the U.S. Most notably Michigan..I wonder if they have any relation to the Van Der Sloots involved in this case?

http://www.linkedin.com/find/v/v166.html

[Destiny]

Wow!  Is she going to eat all that by herself? 

It looks like she could 

when they are together, they have to stay in the middle of the island to keep it from tilting over and capsizing.
dennisintn

ROFLMAO!!!!!!  depends time for Destiny...snort...LOL...

[Destiny]

Look at the arch in these two sneakers.  They look like the arch on the ones Joran is wearing.  Also look at the tip and back heel how they are dirty.  Sneakers do that.

San....the photo of the *comparison* sneakers is the one I've been looking for...Thank You!!!...running off to view Robin photos again....Thanks again San!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[texasmom]

I see there is a few Van Der Sloots here in the U.S. Most notably Michigan..I wonder if they have any relation to the Van Der Sloots involved in this case?

http://www.linkedin.com/find/v/v166.html

My inlaws went on a European trip several months ago and she just told me recently that their trip guide was a lady with the last name Vandersloot.  I think it is a fairly common name over there.   I wouldn't think here in the states.  I did notice when looking on the genealogy pages that there were some that had been born in Holland and died in Michigan.

[hotping]

I see there is a few Van Der Sloots here in the U.S. Most notably Michigan..I wonder if they have any relation to the Van Der Sloots involved in this case?

http://www.linkedin.com/find/v/v166.html

Here's one that I found on publicdata.com California courts
Name
VAN DER SLOOT,PAUL G  Docket Number
1-556352 Citation Number
236626  Bail Amount
0.00 
Bail - PC Amount
 First Violation
VC0022350 Violation Count
01 F
9
Case Disposition
 Conviction Date
Aug 28 1989