Natalee Case Discussion #741 3/7 - 3/10/08

[klaasend]

Can't tell for sure, but she looks a bit like Karin
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute
"angelique's" homepage

She sure does.....is this really joran's zopia site?He has a"Grace"listed as his GF and sander and Sasha as his family members.

nooooooo...it is not Joran's site!

How do you know? Sorry, I don't know a lot about online profiles - Internet etc. But it states he's been a member since jan. 2005, loverboy362 as his username, some of his friends are known and there is a photo of Floor on this site (a friend of his...this I know for sure)....
Do you know his real site then? Or is this just a really good fake one?

This is definately Joran's Zorpia site.  It was created before Natalee:

http://www.zorpia.com/friend/username/loverboy362

[JE]

In other words Holland will cover up the cover-up?

Well, I would hope not. Especially for the good people of Holland's sake... some who post here. They deserve to know that Jansen is not prosecuting them after what she did. She should be no where near any court room. Same goes for Paulus and why he is still in possession of a law license is mind boggling. He sure didn't help anyone during the driver license scandal and his clients were convicted. He's one crappy father and attorney.

This being a separate matter  - it does not require Natalee's body to be found. It's totally separate.

Rob who did PVDS represent in that driver licence scandal?

[Rob]

Hi Gabby, sorry to hear you have such issue with the net... but glad to hear you read along when you can.

[Rob]

Rob who did PVDS represent in that driver licence scandal?

HI JE,

I forget the fellow's name. It is probably located in the crime and corruption thread. All that stuff is documented there. Ms Marple does a heck of a job on that stuff.

There were (I believe) five or six defendant and Paulus was assigned one or two of them.

[Nut44x4]

Can't tell for sure, but she looks a bit like Karin
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute
"angelique's" homepage

She sure does.....is this really joran's zopia site?He has a"Grace"listed as his GF and sander and Sasha as his family members.

nooooooo...it is not Joran's site!

How do you know? Sorry, I don't know a lot about online profiles - Internet etc. But it states he's been a member since jan. 2005, loverboy362 as his username, some of his friends are known and there is a photo of Floor on this site (a friend of his...this I know for sure)....
Do you know his real site then? Or is this just a really good fake one?

This is definately Joran's Zorpia site.  It was created before Natalee:

http://www.zorpia.com/friend/username/loverboy362

I know.
Karma seemed to ask if the link I posted in the above quote stack was Joran's and I said no. Damn it is hard to explain things here!

[GBMW]

Can't tell for sure, but she looks a bit like Karin
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute
"angelique's" homepage

She sure does.....is this really joran's zopia site?He has a"Grace"listed as his GF and sander and Sasha as his family members.

nooooooo...it is not Joran's site!

How do you know? Sorry, I don't know a lot about online profiles - Internet etc. But it states he's been a member since jan. 2005, loverboy362 as his username, some of his friends are known and there is a photo of Floor on this site (a friend of his...this I know for sure)....
Do you know his real site then? Or is this just a really good fake one?

grrrrr.......sorry my patience is wearing thin this day.
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute  IS NOT Joran's site

http://www.zorpia.com/loverboy362/album/-1/profile_photos  IS

Oh ok; then there was a mix up in the communication I think; because the loverboysite was the site that was referred to...(that one has Grace & Claudia as his girlfriend...Grace has been added recently by the way ...).

[Tamikosmom]

Can't tell for sure, but she looks a bit like Karin
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute
"angelique's" homepage

She sure does.....is this really joran's zopia site?He has a"Grace"listed as his GF and sander and Sasha as his family members.

nooooooo...it is not Joran's site!

How do you know? Sorry, I don't know a lot about online profiles - Internet etc. But it states he's been a member since jan. 2005, loverboy362 as his username, some of his friends are known and there is a photo of Floor on this site (a friend of his...this I know for sure)....
Do you know his real site then? Or is this just a really good fake one?

This is definately Joran's Zorpia site.  It was created before Natalee:

http://www.zorpia.com/friend/username/loverboy362

http://www.zorpia.com/loverboy362

Username: loverboy362
Name: Joran
Location: Arnhem
Country: Netherlands
Age: 20
Gender: Male

Member Since:
Saturday, Jan 15 2005
Last Visit:
Friday, Feb 29 2008

[klaasend]

NUT - I figured that's what you meant 

[Destiny]

Oh Bearly...You are sooooooooo Sweet...garsh darn...you warm my heart....yep....I tend to stay logged in on a tab...ever since the big melt down in here...I don't take chances on getting booted out...if that is a big no-no for the cage...someone needs to let me know....

Hi Destiny! You know what?  I too stay in the Monkey cage and dont shut the page down, except to reboot every couple of days or so. I do that because it takes me SO long to get back into the cage because of my internet issues here, plus the pop ups. I sit here 24/7 for the most part, and that's the reason. Also, if I have a LOT of reading to do in the cage, I open a second window and switch back and forth...while reading one page, the next page is loading. One of the many blessings of living so far out in the country is that we dont have high speed connections available to us way out here for anything less then $700 initial set up fee, and I cant justify that.   

Hey Destiny, would you E mail me some info about your resport, please? It sounded wonderful! My E mail is njackson1245@neto.com
Thanks!
[/quote]

Hey Gabby!

I too live in the *boonies*  was the first one to get WIFI and DSL up here on the mountain...had to install it ourselves...the local phone guys watched how we did it...too funny!

For $700. they must be trying to charge you for the fiber optics too LOL..

Sending you email....

[katrien]

A quote from Patrick van der Eem:

"I'm really sorry I can't talk to you right now; then he refers to Peter Schouten (his & Peter R. de Vries' PR agent). "Everything I say is being twisted so I'm really sorry, but I can't talk to anybody"

He was being friendly; apologetic about not being able to answer questions.
This is too bad though; this probably means he won't be giving any more interviews at the moment & he has given lots of extra information about Joran in interviews.

Or maybe they want to wait with a reaction until tomorrow...

Peter R. de Vries hasn't had a new column about this either...and that's a bit weird. He has stated that he doesn't understand what all the fuss is about so maybe that's why hasn't responded through his website. But as he stated: he doesn't know Papiamento, hasn't seen the total broadcast so he can't really react to what's been said....but it seems it's not just a word or a sentence that is supposed to be misinterpreted...so how can he say that it's just a lot of fuss about nothing?

It is possible that Peter tells it is just a lot of fuss about nothing, because Peter knows what Patrick told in the interview.
Peter and Patrick obviously have contact with eachother (see the Jensen shows last week).
If Patrick said nothing special in the interview, there is no reason to keep reacting.
Its logic that Peter waits for the interview because he was not there either.

But, today it looks much like the famous sentences, translated by Peter R. haters in cooperation with Poentje, are going to be left away completely. 

[KarmaRoundUp]

Can't tell for sure, but she looks a bit like Karin
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute
"angelique's" homepage

She sure does.....is this really joran's zopia site?He has a"Grace"listed as his GF and sander and Sasha as his family members.

nooooooo...it is not Joran's site!

How do you know? Sorry, I don't know a lot about online profiles - Internet etc. But it states he's been a member since jan. 2005, loverboy362 as his username, some of his friends are known and there is a photo of Floor on this site (a friend of his...this I know for sure)....
Do you know his real site then? Or is this just a really good fake one?

grrrrr.......sorry my patience is wearing thin this day.
http://www.zorpia.com/just2cute  IS NOT Joran's site

http://www.zorpia.com/loverboy362/album/-1/profile_photos  IS

Sorry for the misunderstanding
I meant was joran's zorpia site really made by joran,but I see you have answered that already.

[Nut44x4]

Klaas, do you have the pix of Karin w/ the tilted hat on...basball hat kinda tipped?

[GabbyG]

Hi Gabby, sorry to hear you have such issue with the net... but glad to hear you read along when you can.

Hey Rob, Hi!!  I do read every day, but only post occasionally because for me it takes so long. My goal is to one day join the "real world" as far as internet goes      I am very proud to be part of the Monkeys, and to have my own little corner in the cage!! Each of you has come to feel like friends to me!

[klaasend]

Klaas, do you have the pix of Karin w/ the tilted hat on...basball hat kinda tipped?

From Joran's Zorpia site:

[Destiny]

A quote from Patrick van der Eem:

"I'm really sorry I can't talk to you right now; then he refers to Peter Schouten (his & Peter R. de Vries' PR agent). "Everything I say is being twisted so I'm really sorry, but I can't talk to anybody"

He was being friendly; apologetic about not being able to answer questions.
This is too bad though; this probably means he won't be giving any more interviews at the moment & he has given lots of extra information about Joran in interviews.

Or maybe they want to wait with a reaction until tomorrow...

Peter R. de Vries hasn't had a new column about this either...and that's a bit weird. He has stated that he doesn't understand what all the fuss is about so maybe that's why hasn't responded through his website. But as he stated: he doesn't know Papiamento, hasn't seen the total broadcast so he can't really react to what's been said....but it seems it's not just a word or a sentence that is supposed to be misinterpreted...so how can he say that it's just a lot of fuss about nothing?

It is possible that Peter tells it is just a lot of fuss about nothing, because Peter knows what Patrick told in the interview.
Peter and Patrick obviously have contact with eachother (see the Jensen shows last week).
If Patrick said nothing special in the interview, there is no reason to keep reacting.
Its logic that Peter waits for the interview because he was not there either.

But, today it looks much like the famous sentences, translated by Peter R. haters in cooperation with Poentje, are going to be left away completely. 

Another possibility....Peter and Patrick are working together, to stir the pot...waiting to see what floats to the top...LOL....this reminds me of an old saying...*shit floats*....

[Tamikosmom]

 

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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 09:01:22 AM

de moeder van Lorenzo

De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest). Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt

[klaasend]

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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 09:01:22 AM

de moeder van Lorenzo

De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest). Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt

No way do I believe that SandraK is Lorenzo's mom.  SandraK admitted to me that she didn't even know Lorenzo. 

[Destiny]

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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 09:01:22 AM

de moeder van Lorenzo

De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest). Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt

So...Lorenzo's Mom posts as Sandrak...trying to help Lorenzo with an alibi?

[Nut44x4]

O/T Klaas....
Another missing' needs to be marked Body Found....

Analyce Guerra remains were found in Jan. and not identiified until now. Thanks.

[Tamikosmom]

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Quote from: johan555 on March 05, 2008, 09:01:22 AM

de moeder van Lorenzo

De moeder van Lorenzo, Astrid van Rijn, actief is als poster op een aantal websites (als SandraK en Keywest). Zij gaf onlangs aan dat ze op goede voet staat met Robin Holloway, de vrouw van Dave Holloway. Dit is natuurlijk pikant, nu de ex vriendin van Lorenzo van Rijn zijn alibi op 30 mei 2005 intrekt

No way do I believe that SandraK is Lorenzo's mom.  SandraK admitted to me that she didn't even know Lorenzo. 

Klaas ... would you please translate the above post and ... WHO IS johan555?

It is so weird.  After three years of articles flashing before me in posts ... I do believe I am able to get the drift of the message.

 

Janet