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« on: March 07, 2008, 06:37:43 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 07:24:43 PM »

From Telegraaf.nl.....Strange the goal that Mr.Castro set himself with..Since this is a murder case you would think his goal would be to catch the killers!
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It would interview Thursday evening (local time) on integral TeleAruba be broadcast after a section already be seen on YouTube. "She dared not to be afraid that they would be sued," says Castro. According to him, the NOVA current affairs, and the program SBS6 The World Runs Through some interest shown. "My goal is to show that Van der Eem a questionable figure. He falls through the basket with what he said to me. "

The Public Prosecutor's Office (OM) on Aruba has now had contact with Castro. He has agreed that he will not release pictures that the investigation into the case could hamper Holloway. It also sends out who he is not Van der Eem mentioned as a culprit in the case.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 07:35:05 PM »

Found this so far.



http://www.one-happy-island.com/DaEngine.asp
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 07:36:53 PM »

Who is Jules D.
The only Jules D i know of is Jules Deelder a well know public figure in Holland. Always dresses in black and has the unofficial title of Night Mayor of Rotterdam. He is a writer poet tv personality etc.
I think this is a joke
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 07:38:50 PM »


Hi Everyone!

Has Jossy made any comment about the first part of the show?  If he has would someone direct me to it, please.  I've read some of the pieces of translations, I would really like to see a complete translation that is reliable.  Does one exist?  TIA
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 07:39:40 PM »

So we are supposed to believe Rick & Mashelle Zeola(IFA Members) took care of 10 year old Sebastian Van Der Sloot while Paul And Anita were in Holland? Or was big brother Joran watching him during that time? 
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 07:39:55 PM »

VALENTIJN AND SEBASTIAN VAN DER SLOOT

Paulus Van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005


On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home.  My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005


I woke up Valentijn and Sebastian and I also said to Joran that he
had to go to school even though he wasn't in the mood to go.


Paulus Van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005


On May 30th in the hours of the morning, I did not notice anything different/out of the ordinary with Joran. According to me he got onto the bus of the I.S.A. with his brothers Sebastian and Valentijn just like he always does. I am not absolutely sure about that because I didn't notice it and because Joran didn't have to be at school every day during that period. He was busy with his final exams and sometimes he stayed home.


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Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005


To your question whether Sebastian and Valentijn went to school that Monday, I can state the following. Yes, they got onto the bus and went to school because in the period that Anita was away they took the bus every day.


Paulus van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005


At some point during the night I was awoken by the barking of the dogs. My son Valentijn came to me and asked me what was happening. There were a lot of people at the door and there was also a police-patrol.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005


To your question how it then is possible that I had not seen Joran
get onto the bus, I can state the following. Of course I see the children get onto the bus and that also is true for Joran. But unlike Valentijn and Sebastian who went with the bus everyday Joran didn't go with the bus once or twice during that period.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 25, 2005


We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me. I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran and then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family.


Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 9, 2005


When it was half time of the game my father wanted to go home to go and babysit my ten year old brother.


Anita van der Sloot
On the Record w/ Greta
June 23, 2005


ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: He's very quiet. He's very shy. He doesn't like media coverage at all. And he's very much hurt by things that are happening. And as I look back — I mean, I came back from Holland Wednesday, and I was so surprised at seeing three young men — one kid, two men — involved, maybe, in the disappearance of a girl ...
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 07:41:48 PM »

There are a couple of Juilians on Joran's Hi-5 site. I find no 'Jules' though. It does seem to me a very long time ago I was looking at someones site (can't remember if it was myspace or whatever) and I was checking out a firend of Joran's who had a guy named 'Jules' in some of his photos...but damn, it was so long ago and I can't remember who's site I saw the pix on...sorry.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 07:44:08 PM »

VALENTIJN AND SEBASTIAN VAN DER SLOOT

Paulus Van der Sloot
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June 18, 2005


On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home.  My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.

Thanks Janet for bringing it over.

Here Paulus has the perfect opportunity to say that Sebastian was staying at their house, but he doesn't. This is a critical error in his defense of himself. imo
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 07:47:12 PM »

For some reason I thought the guy on the right in this photo is Jules

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 07:47:24 PM »

VALENTIJN AND SEBASTIAN VAN DER SLOOT

Paulus Van der Sloot
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June 18, 2005


On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home.  My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.

Thanks Janet for bringing it over.

Here Paulus has the perfect opportunity to say that Sebastian was staying at their house, but he doesn't. This is a critical error in his defense of himself. imo

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Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 25, 2005

We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me. I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran and then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family.

Here Paulus is picking up Sebastian, not going home where Sebastian is being dropped off.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 07:49:33 PM »

For some reason I thought the guy on the right in this photo is Jules



That's the guy who was with him when he went to NY.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 07:50:31 PM »


Hi Everyone!

Has Jossy made any comment about the first part of the show?  If he has would someone direct me to it, please.  I've read some of the pieces of translations, I would really like to see a complete translation that is reliable.  Does one exist?  TIA

I translated most of it yesterday from the nieuwe revu transcription. There were some questions as to the accuracy of the papiementu to dutch translation i used to translate it into english. But it was said to day that the Revu translation was correct. So my translation is probably not far off. I posted it in 3 segments. Hope this helps
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 07:52:56 PM »

Yes San, same guy.
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VALENTIJN AND SEBASTIAN VAN DER SLOOT

Paulus Van der Sloot
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June 18, 2005


On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home.  My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.

Thanks Janet for bringing it over.

Here Paulus has the perfect opportunity to say that Sebastian was staying at their house, but he doesn't. This is a critical error in his defense of himself. imo

Critical error? The guy is seen on video 2 hours after he said he went home with Natalee at the BJ table. He couldn't even get the name of the tournament correct as he says it was a Carribean Stud Tournament while Joran says Texas No Hold EM. Joran says he placed 3rd in that tourney and played till around 22:00 but he is also seen on video with the MB girls at 20:14. They are caught in so many lies here its ridiculous and this was before Natalee dissapeared!

Why was Paul Van Der Sloot not sleeping in his own bedroom while Anita was away? Why did Deepak mention that in his statement? Why did they not search where Paul was staying when he was arrested for suspicion of Pre-Mediated Murder and Kidnapping?
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2008, 07:55:58 PM »

Hi Monkeys....What's new in the news?  I've been away for a week...funeral of a dear friend...<sob>
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2008, 08:00:53 PM »

Hi Monkeys....What's new in the news?  I've been away for a week...funeral of a dear friend...<sob>

Hi Annie, sorry to hear that. My condolences.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2008, 08:02:45 PM »

For some reason I thought the guy on the right in this photo is Jules




Nope....that is 'Jens' ...he also has a nickname I can't remember. Not Jules though.
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Hi Monkeys....What's new in the news?  I've been away for a week...funeral of a dear friend...<sob>

Hi Annie, sorry to hear that. My condolences.

Hi Rob - Thx.  I LOVE Family Guy and Stewie!!!  :~)   Any news since Persistence left?
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2008, 08:04:04 PM »

From Telegraaf.nl.....Strange the goal that Mr.Castro set himself with..Since this is a murder case you would think his goal would be to catch the killers!
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It would interview Thursday evening (local time) on integral TeleAruba be broadcast after a section already be seen on YouTube. "She dared not to be afraid that they would be sued," says Castro. According to him, the NOVA current affairs, and the program SBS6 The World Runs Through some interest shown. "My goal is to show that Van der Eem a questionable figure. He falls through the basket with what he said to me. "

The Public Prosecutor's Office (OM) on Aruba has now had contact with Castro. He has agreed that he will not release pictures that the investigation into the case could hamper Holloway. It also sends out who he is not Van der Eem mentioned as a culprit in the case.

*******, I think if Mr. Castro's goal would have been to catch the killer's, and this goal was known;  his show would have never been televised in Aruba.  I don't understand what the last bolded statement is intended to state.
 
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