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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2008, 05:11:27 PM »

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To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a sick person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police want more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee
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Weird. Johan555 writes strange things on Fok in the first Nathalee rebound chapter.


katrien, what kind of strange things?  or give us a link.  lol, don't make us come over there, child.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2008, 05:17:45 PM »

That doesn't suprise me Mojo..I bet PVDS knew Nit Wit and Smit fairly well. PVDS was a replacement Judge and his connections are pretty deep in the OM and the Govt of Aruba.

What is curious to me was if he just learned he was a failure on May 29th 2005 after returning from Holland. Anita was away and he appears to be getting hammered and gambling at the casino. Just how deep is his involvement? Why would Michael Posner be so angry releasing the casino tapes? Joran told that reporter in Holland that he and Natalee went inside the house for a while after the bar and Deepak stated that PVDS was not sleeping in his bedroom..Are they clues to what happened? Did they spend a hour at the VDS house and leave?

Was the plan to drop her off at the beach at 3AM when something horrible happened? Just what is Mr.Pinks and Lorenzo Van Rijn's involvement if any? That would be quite interesting if it was true they are good friends. Also interesting if this Reality is the same one at BNH and is connected to Michael Posner.

i didn't surprise me on the one hand, but i was surprised it never really came out. also, earlier you posted something about the dog incident and it mentioned a merryweather. i suspect this may be sidney merryweather. similar age, wonder if we can somehow verify the dog thing.

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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2008, 05:21:07 PM »

Monday, March 10, 2008 14:15
Netherlands gets first book Van der Eem

translated link....

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/laatste_24_uur/artikel/asp/artnr/196514/index.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPoentje%2BCastro%2B-Fidel%26start%3D30%26num%3D30%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26sa%3DN

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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2008, 05:25:07 PM »

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To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a sick person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police want more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee
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Weird. Johan555 writes strange things on Fok in the first Nathalee rebound chapter.


The above quote comprises part of Deepak's suspect statement of June 16, 2005.

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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2008, 05:31:40 PM »

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To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a sick person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police want more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee
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Weird. Johan555 writes strange things on Fok in the first Nathalee rebound chapter.


katrien, what kind of strange things?  or give us a link.  lol, don't make us come over there, child.
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I'll give a link tomorrow evening.
******* knows all about it, I will link (or copy) the posts in the Dutch thread. I think it is old news for you people anyway.
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2008, 05:31:45 PM »

Hi Monkey's,
  Just got caught up reading.Watched the video link and listened to Dave and Beth.Seem's Dave thinks it all went down at the Sloots house..Bless his heart and Beth's heart too..One thing I've always wondered about and that is why Dave had to find out from his son that Natalee was missing.I wonder why Beth or Jug didn't call him immediatly..I don't know,just sad...


Tot ... at this point Beth knew NOTHING other than what her mother's instinct told her ... SOMETHING WAS TERRIBLY WRONG ... HER DAUGHTER HAD MISSED THE FLIGHT HOME!

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On Monday, May 30, Natalee's trip came to an end, and she was due to fly home to Alabama.  But late in the afternoon, I received a call from Matt telling me that Natalee had missed her flight and that Beth was getting on a plane to Aruba.  She had told him to call me, but had no details yet.   I attempted to get in touch with Beth.  No answer.  I googled hotels in Aruba and found a number for the Holiday Inn where the kids had been staying.  I called and was able to talk to one of the trip chaperones who had stayed behind in Natalee's room.  He filled me in about Natalee missing her flight.  At the time, there was not much to go on.


Thankyou Janet for the answer..Beth's instinct told her something was wrong with Natalee in Aruba.Dave's instinct told him it wasn't a good idea for Natalee to go to Aruba to begin with..It's very obvious that these two parents loved that child deeply as we see now,they were both right..God Bless them...
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2008, 05:33:55 PM »


or dutch
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/laatste_24_uur/artikel/asp/artnr/196514/index.html
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2008, 05:34:04 PM »


i didn't surprise me on the one hand, but i was surprised it never really came out. also, earlier you posted something about the dog incident and it mentioned a merryweather. i suspect this may be sidney merryweather. similar age, wonder if we can somehow verify the dog thing.

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Well the entire Van Der Sloot and Hugen Family has been quiet,we don't even know which ones are paul's brothers or why him and his son are so protected. They know the names of all of Dave's kids,every MB student and everything about Natalee and her Family. Very little has come out for obvious reasons as we know years ago Van Der Straten use to work for PVDS,the more thats unraveled the more disgusted we will all be by how well he knows everyone that was involved. It is probably true with the two Judges Wit and Smit as well. It would not suprise me if other Fathers of the pimps influenced the Investigation in Aruba also.

Peter De Vries also reported about Joran killing his own dog in his first show and I take it as a fact. He killed his own pet dumped it in the Moko pond and tried to blame it on this kid. However there probably is no police record of that thanks to Van Der Straten and Pauls friends in the ALE. We saw a similar thing from the reports of the 3 girls who said they were drugged and assaulted by Joran,they went to the police and nothing was done. They came forward again after Natalee dissapeared but then  stepped back after Dennis Jacobs talked to them. When the KLPD looked into this,her Psychiatrist said that she was drugged and abused by Joran,but Dennis Jacobs said she was not willing to come forward because she was still in love with Joran 
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2008, 05:40:13 PM »

she was still in love with Joran 

on drugs maybe, otherwise...  in love with joran....who is she lilly munster? i wish devries would dig around on jacobs and van der stratten.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2008, 05:56:46 PM »

AMERICAN WRITER - E.E. BYARS

Writer Byars (33) helped with some translation for Peter R. de Vries's broadcast on the Holloway case, which is how she met Van der Eem. Until now she has only written fiction but expects that the book on the Holloway case, entitled Disposed, should be in American bookstores in September.

http://www.expatica.com/nl/articles/news/Aruban-justice-authorities-want-to-question-Van-der-Eem-.html
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i didn't surprise me on the one hand, but i was surprised it never really came out. also, earlier you posted something about the dog incident and it mentioned a merryweather. i suspect this may be sidney merryweather. similar age, wonder if we can somehow verify the dog thing.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=107036794
Well the entire Van Der Sloot and Hugen Family has been quiet,we don't even know which ones are paul's brothers or why him and his son are so protected. They know the names of all of Dave's kids,every MB student and everything about Natalee and her Family. Very little has come out for obvious reasons as we know years ago Van Der Straten use to work for PVDS,the more thats unraveled the more disgusted we will all be by how well he knows everyone that was involved. It is probably true with the two Judges Wit and Smit as well. It would not suprise me if other Fathers of the pimps influenced the Investigation in Aruba also.

Peter De Vries also reported about Joran killing his own dog in his first show and I take it as a fact. He killed his own pet dumped it in the Moko pond and tried to blame it on this kid. However there probably is no police record of that thanks to Van Der Straten and Pauls friends in the ALE. We saw a similar thing from the reports of the 3 girls who said they were drugged and assaulted by Joran,they went to the police and nothing was done. They came forward again after Natalee dissapeared but then  stepped back after Dennis Jacobs talked to them. When the KLPD looked into this,her Psychiatrist said that she was drugged and abused by Joran,but Dennis Jacobs said she was not willing to come forward because she was still in love with Joran 

Arubagirl first told us about Joran killing his dog.  The Merrywether mother had told
Arubagirl's mother the story.  Some sort of relative as I recall.  Hubie Merrywether was
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2008, 06:40:45 PM »

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Uitgeverij Foreign Media Books laat maandag weten dat 'Overboord. Hoe ik Joran van der Sloot aan het praten kreeg' rond 25 juni verschijnt.

Publisher Foreign Media Books announced Monday that 'Overboard. How I got Joran van der Sloot to talk' will be published June 25.

http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=62967/contentid=917917/sc=5e16df
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2008, 06:52:44 PM »

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Uitgeverij Foreign Media Books laat maandag weten dat 'Overboord. Hoe ik Joran van der Sloot aan het praten kreeg' rond 25 juni verschijnt.

Publisher Foreign Media Books announced Monday that 'Overboard. How I got Joran van der Sloot to talk' will be published June 25.

http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=62967/contentid=917917/sc=5e16df

I won't be buying...Until it reads,"How I brought down the corruption in Aruba and made the guilty pay", I want none of it....
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2008, 06:59:00 PM »


Thanks Nut.

The Dutch are privy to Patrick van der Eem's book at the end of June while ... it appears that the English version will not be be released until September.

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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2008, 07:22:06 PM »

I thought I understood that there will be 2 books by Patrick one is Disposed and the other is Overboard....please correct Me if I'm wrong...
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2008, 07:24:23 PM »

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Uitgeverij Foreign Media Books laat maandag weten dat 'Overboord. Hoe ik Joran van der Sloot aan het praten kreeg' rond 25 juni verschijnt.

Publisher Foreign Media Books announced Monday that 'Overboard. How I got Joran van der Sloot to talk' will be published June 25.

http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=62967/contentid=917917/sc=5e16df

I won't be buying...Until it reads,"How I brought down the corruption in Aruba and made the guilty pay", I want none of it....

Tot ... you and I have the same mindset.

I cannot comprehend how Peter Devries and Patrick van der Eem can claim that they solved the case.  I do not believe that the Devries/van der Eem investigation alluded to the specific participation of Paulus van der Sloot ... Deepak and Satish Kalpoe ... the sons of the elite (pimps).  I do not believe that the Devries/van der Eem investigation alluded to those within the Aruban and Dutch administrations/judiciary who were involved in/aware of the coverup that has been denying Natalee Holloway justice from the getgo.

All the video recording did was adhere to an Aruban agenda to pacify the family of Natalee Holloway by implicating ONLY Joran in being present at the demise of Natalee Holloway but not ... implicate him in her death.  However ... the encompassing lies which could be affirmed would dictate that Joran van der Sloot would not be detained.

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Court of Appeal upholds lower judge’s decision not to detain J.v.d.S.

J.v.d.S remains prime suspect
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The Court of Appeal announced by the end of yesterday, February 14th, 2008, its decision to uphold the refusal by the investigating judge to order pre-trial detention of J.v.d.S. in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The Office of the Public Prosecutor had requested such an order after the “Peter R de Vries-tapes” had been received by the Office and had been evaluated. Last week the Office appealed the ruling of refusal by the judge.

The reasons underlying the Court’s decision are the following. The Court has seen the visual materials, has listened to the audio materials and has inspected the verbatim reports. Based on that, the Court is of the opinion that there is a lack of sufficient facts and circumstances substantiating serious grounds for the suspicion of the suspect’s involvement in the crimes for which he is being held responsible by the prosecution. The Court will generally be a bit more hesitant when it has to decide on a new request for pre-trial detention of a suspect, when that same suspect has been detained repeatedly before and there has been a considerable lapse of time.

J.v.d.S. has given extensive and detailed statements in Patrick van der Eem’s car, the undercover citizen who worked for Peter R. de Vries, on what happened during the night of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Nevertheless the Court sees various reasons not to accept the serious grounds of suspicion which are statutorily required for pre-trial detention. One of them is the history of contradictory statements by J.v.d.S., which were belied repeatedly by objective findings.

At this moment those parts of the statements made in Van der Eem’s car which contain new elements are not being underpinned by objective findings. Considering the possibility of a serious personality disorder – as voiced by the prosecution – combined with a personal history of untrue statements and remarks, which even according to the suspect himself are frequently false, the Court of Appeal has reasons for doubt regarding the incriminating character of the “car-statements.”

On the pre-trial detention issue the Code of criminal procedure does not provide for further appeals. The effect of the Court decision is that J.v.d.S. cannot be (re)arrested. The investigation of the Natalee Holloway case continues. J.v.d.S. is again the prime suspect.


At the end of the investigation the Office of the Public Prosecution will decide whether to charge or not

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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2008, 07:30:04 PM »

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2008, 07:31:32 PM »

Interesting to look at the islands yearbooks..Such a small class but yet so many with the same last name..Kock,Arendsz,Arends,Maduro..Croes..and yes Wever 

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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2008, 07:33:46 PM »

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?
Hard to say as to what extent OE..But since Karin Janssen,Judge Wit and Gerald Dompig are all caught lying why they blocked the search of the home and refused to let it be searched..One has to wonder why? They had a full search warrant 16 days after Natalee dissapeared but still blocked the search the day of the search..Why would they do that? Why would the Judge say they never asked to search that property anymore then Jorans Apt but the Chief Prosecuter and Deputy commissioner say they were denied,they said they were also denied when Paul Van Der Sloot was arrested for Pre-Meditated Murder and Kidnapping..Why would the Judge say Dompig obstructed Justice and didn't want that house searched so PVDS could have his privacy? Since when do Murder and Kidnapping suspects get immunity from having there house searched? We know they tried to frame two innocent men and they immediately searched there house! What was Peter R reporting that something happened in the garden in 2006? Yet in 2007 that is exactly where the KLPD forensic team focused there search on.
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2008, 07:34:25 PM »

The Persistence is completing its last leg of the journey home.  It should arrive some time on Wed.  Incredibly, the Persistence never saw anything over 4ft seas the entire way from Aruba to Mexico with 2kt currents and the wind at its stern - it made awesome time.  It had to spend a few days in Mexico where it refueled until the Gulf calmed down, but it's good to go now.  Thanks for all the prayers. 
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