Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 - 3/14/08

[Bearlyhere]

Glenda aka Renfro is such a load.

She posted at RU:

Glenda Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:34 pm   
Gov't Inspectors at the Entrance of every Casino

This is an absolute fact. Everyone who says it is not true has an agenda to discredit all information that comes from Aruba.

The question is why? 
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So, how did Joran get in to gamble so often?
Isn't there another rule that says a redident of Aruba can only
frequent a casino so many days per month.  That rule doesn't seem to
be enforced either.

Glenda,

Thanks for the clarification.  It was a pleasant surprise to see that you are viewing things the same as the monkeys.  In other words, the government inspectors at the entrance of every casino are not doing their jobs.  They let children in to drink and gamble.  What else of importance are they missing?  Maybe you will pass that on next.  Looking forward to hearing from you. 

Thanks,
BH

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:30 PM

[klaasend]

Glenda aka Renfro is such a load.

She posted at RU:

Glenda Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:34 pm   
Gov't Inspectors at the Entrance of every Casino

This is an absolute fact. Everyone who says it is not true has an agenda to discredit all information that comes from Aruba.

The question is why? 
========================================================
So, how did Joran get in to gamble so often?
Isn't there another rule that says a redident of Aruba can only
frequent a casino so many days per month.  That rule doesn't seem to
be enforced either.

Sure Glenda, just like these inspectors at this entrance.  Maybe they are "invisible inspectors" 

[klaasend]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:30 PM

Nite Janet

[Destiny]

Glenda aka Renfro is such a load.

She posted at RU:

Glenda Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:34 pm   
Gov't Inspectors at the Entrance of every Casino

This is an absolute fact. Everyone who says it is not true has an agenda to discredit all information that comes from Aruba.

The question is why? 
========================================================
So, how did Joran get in to gamble so often?
Isn't there another rule that says a redident of Aruba can only
frequent a casino so many days per month.  That rule doesn't seem to
be enforced either.

The protection of the tourist dollar that feeds an underground economy throughout the Carribean appears to have been the motivation behind the coverup in the Natalee Holloway case from the getgo.

Justice for Natalee Holloway would have demanded ... not just accountability from Joran or Paulus for their roles but ... also the the Excelsior Casino and Carlos and Charlies where ...  as John Q. Kelly stated ... the entire chain of events that resulted in the demise of an 18 year old American citizen would never have happened if an underage Joran van der Sloot had not been allowed on the premises to gamble and drink.

At 17 years of age ... could it be that Joran van der Sloot was already an active contributor to that underground economy ... the underground economy that encompasses gambling ... drugs ... pornography.  Could it be that this is the reason that those "government inspectors" who Julia Renfro refers to turned a blind eye.

Janet

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CARLOS 'N CHARLIES

Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 9, 2005

After that we drove straight to Carlos & Charlies. Deepak was the driver but I cannot remember now who was sitting beside him. I do not remember now if it was Satish or me. I estimate that we arrived at Carlos & Charlies between 00.15 and 00.30 hours. Deepak parked his car on the parking lot behind Carlos & Charlies and after that we walked into the building of Carlos & Charlies. I don't have to pay because I have a VIP pass. With my VIP pass Deepak and Satish were also allowed in.

To your question as to who gave me the VIP pass to Carlos & Charlies, I answer you that I got it through the office of Carlos & Charlies. I do not remember with the help of who I got the VIP pass. I got to Carlos & Charlies about one to three times a week.


EXCELSIOR CASINO

Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE

Page 39 - Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.  He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."  My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."  I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.


RADISSON CASINO

Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 13, 2005

Andre asked me to come inside. I did go inside. I did not play, but did look at the cards of Joran and Guido.

At some given moment in time a tourist who was sitting at Joran's table got angry. The tourist thought that we were looking at the cards of other players and signaling/deciding for Joran when he should play or not. It lead to a disagreement between Joran and the tourist. The manager of the Radisson Casino came over and everything calmed down. I drank about four "whisky coke" gedronken in the Radisson Casino. I now that Joran drank more because the waiters were constantly bringing him drinks.   I am not sure .what he was drinking. His drinks were of a yellow colour. I think it was “whisky soda" or 'Whisky water".

Janet How very right you are....when there are no morals to pass down...none are passed down...a total infrastructure of gain, based on the concept of...*no* morals....

[Bearlyhere]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:30 PM

Nite, Janet!

   

[texasmom]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:30 PM

Goodnight, Janet

[Destiny]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:30 PM

Goodnight, Janet

Piggy-backing on TM...Nite Janet...pawn to Q4....

[Magnolia]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:30 PM

Good Night, Janet.
The information that you come up with at a moments notice
never ceases to amaze me.  Thank you.

[Destiny]

Glenda aka Renfro is such a load.

She posted at RU:

Glenda Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:34 pm   
Gov't Inspectors at the Entrance of every Casino

This is an absolute fact. Everyone who says it is not true has an agenda to discredit all information that comes from Aruba.

The question is why? 
========================================================
So, how did Joran get in to gamble so often?
Isn't there another rule that says a redident of Aruba can only
frequent a casino so many days per month.  That rule doesn't seem to
be enforced either.

Sure Glenda, just like these inspectors at this entrance.  Maybe they are "invisible inspectors" 

Wow Klaas...haven't seen that one in awhile...thanks for refreshing my memory...and Glenda's...LOL

[Magnolia]

What kind of shoes does Joran have on as he is coming through
the door of the casino?  (I know it has probably been checked before)

[klaasend]

What kind of shoes does Joran have on as he is coming through
the door of the casino?  (I know it has probably been checked before)

Really hard to tell when you enlarge it but it looks like just plain white tennis shoes.

[Magnolia]

What kind of shoes does Joran have on as he is coming through
the door of the casino?  (I know it has probably been checked before)

Really hard to tell when you enlarge it but it looks like just plain white tennis shoes.

Well, they look like size 10 1/2 to me.

[hotping]

What kind of shoes does Joran have on as he is coming through
the door of the casino?  (I know it has probably been checked before)

K Swiss..One size 10 the other size 14..klip klop klip klop! 

[klaasend]

Looks like Joran was wearing this or something very similar when he was at the Casino that night (I used this pic to test the size of his shoe to his forearm, lol )

[Destiny]

Looks like Joran was wearing this or something very similar when he was at the Casino that night (I used this pic to test the size of his shoe to his forearm, lol )

Glenda...Yoo-Hooo...see what Klaas has posted?...

[texasmom]

Glenda aka Renfro is such a load.

She posted at RU:

Glenda Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:34 pm   
Gov't Inspectors at the Entrance of every Casino

This is an absolute fact. Everyone who says it is not true has an agenda to discredit all information that comes from Aruba.

The question is why? 
========================================================
So, how did Joran get in to gamble so often?
Isn't there another rule that says a redident of Aruba can only
frequent a casino so many days per month.  That rule doesn't seem to
be enforced either.

Sure Glenda, just like these inspectors at this entrance.  Maybe they are "invisible inspectors"  

Wow Klaas...haven't seen that one in awhile...thanks for refreshing my memory...and Glenda's...LOL

You're right Glenda Julia, WE HAVE AN AGENDA; IT'S CALLED TRUTH, AND JUSTICE.. ..DO YOU FEEL THE WALLS OF BABYLON SHAKING GLENDA JULIA?  THEY'RE GOING DOWN, ALL OF THEM.....NO MORE INFORMATION LIES FROM ARUBA ARE NECESSARY!.

[klaasend]

  TM

[hotping]

Great Post TM! 

[Finbar]

Well, I just find even referring to Beth as a suspect very offensive.

I thought the burden of proof for being labeled a suspect was, according to the lovely and gracious Arleen, STRONG suspicion or reason to suspect thus and so.

Thinking it was an insurance scam because that was the false claim  they told before about Max DeVries would not qualify as reason for strong suspicion since that turned out not to be true at all.

That leaves the psychics and I do have a very hard time believing that anyone really takes them seriously.  One word against another.  But it did come from two of the government Ministers that this should be investigated so perhaps that is where this comes from?

Just more for Bram to work with, I think.  Reflects more on the mindset of the Ministers than on Beth, imo.

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ag & simian were the two I remember posting about insurance scams.
 

Fin