Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 - 3/14/08

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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

[bleachedblack]

 

[hotping]

 

[Observer]

Sure would be nice if we could confirm this is fact and this is the same reality at BNH!

posts from the Major Wager forum:

07-16-2005, 01:31 AM
shoebox
Two Star General Join Date: Aug 2000


Clev, I was offered a job there in 1999, the guy is from Chicago and his 1st name is Mike, I wont put the last name on here. I thought he was a decent guy but I never took the offer, I believe Reality knows him well. He owns the casino itself which is totally seperate from the Holiday Inn(Excelsior Casino), it has a walk up sportsbook and racebook, Poker Room and all the table games, I always stay there when i go.
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Posted by Clevfan at the Major Wager forum:

07-03-2005, 03:30 AM
clevfan
Staff Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 17,627


these are suspect sites:

www.mrpinkproductions.com

www.guide2paradise.com


both are run by a guy orginally from michigan by the name of paul brough. he is good friends with lorenzo van rijn

old sites are: www.getlegalhookers.com and www.metronightlife.com


http://tinyurl.com/29uuob
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glad you brought up the majorwager forum again. i was looking through that this afternoon and saw that acw posted that paulus and the judge were golfing buddies. i don't remember that ever coming out.

http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/44196-anyone-else-following-natalee-holloway-case-6.html

[bleachedblack]

Sure would be nice if we could confirm this is fact and this is the same reality at BNH!

posts from the Major Wager forum:

07-16-2005, 01:31 AM
shoebox
Two Star General Join Date: Aug 2000


Clev, I was offered a job there in 1999, the guy is from Chicago and his 1st name is Mike, I wont put the last name on here. I thought he was a decent guy but I never took the offer, I believe Reality knows him well. He owns the casino itself which is totally seperate from the Holiday Inn(Excelsior Casino), it has a walk up sportsbook and racebook, Poker Room and all the table games, I always stay there when i go.
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Posted by Clevfan at the Major Wager forum:

07-03-2005, 03:30 AM
clevfan
Staff Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 17,627


these are suspect sites:

www.mrpinkproductions.com

www.guide2paradise.com


both are run by a guy orginally from michigan by the name of paul brough. he is good friends with lorenzo van rijn

old sites are: www.getlegalhookers.com and www.metronightlife.com


http://tinyurl.com/29uuob
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glad you brought up the majorwager forum again. i was looking through that this afternoon and saw that acw posted that paulus and the judge were golfing buddies. i don't remember that ever coming out.

http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/44196-anyone-else-following-natalee-holloway-case-6.html

I recall that poster clevfan, typepad appeareded with their name on it at majorwajor site and they were an early poster her at SM.

[Observer]

That doesn't suprise me Mojo..I bet PVDS knew Nit Wit and Smit fairly well. PVDS was a replacement Judge and his connections are pretty deep in the OM and the Govt of Aruba.

What is curious to me was if he just learned he was a failure on May 29th 2005 after returning from Holland. Anita was away and he appears to be getting hammered and gambling at the casino. Just how deep is his involvement? Why would Michael Posner be so angry releasing the casino tapes? Joran told that reporter in Holland that he and Natalee went inside the house for a while after the bar and Deepak stated that PVDS was not sleeping in his bedroom..Are they clues to what happened? Did they spend a hour at the VDS house and leave?

Was the plan to drop her off at the beach at 3AM when something horrible happened? Just what is Mr.Pinks and Lorenzo Van Rijn's involvement if any? That would be quite interesting if it was true they are good friends. Also interesting if this Reality is the same one at BNH and is connected to Michael Posner.

[Peaches]

Present and accounted for. 

Some of those clevfan posts looked familiar..... interesting stuff.....BBL

[Tamikosmom]

vms ... I see you lurking.

"The Last Boleyn Girl" was an excellent movie.  IMO.

 

Thanks for forewarning me regarding the title.  I had anticipated a spy thriller with a German location when I had misunderstood from my friend with a Scotish accent that the title of the movie was "The Berlin Girl".

 

Anyways the lesson in British history ... my heritage ... was very interesting.

Janet

[katrien]

That doesn't suprise me Mojo..I bet PVDS knew Nit Wit and Smit fairly well. PVDS was a replacement Judge and his connections are pretty deep in the OM and the Govt of Aruba.

What is curious to me was if he just learned he was a failure on May 29th 2005 after returning from Holland. Anita was away and he appears to be getting hammered and gambling at the casino. Just how deep is his involvement? Why would Michael Posner be so angry releasing the casino tapes? Joran told that reporter in Holland that he and Natalee went inside the house for a while after the bar and Deepak stated that PVDS was not sleeping in his bedroom..Are they clues to what happened? Did they spend a hour at the VDS house and leave?

Was the plan to drop her off at the beach at 3AM when something horrible happened? Just what is Mr.Pinks and Lorenzo Van Rijn's involvement if any? That would be quite interesting if it was true they are good friends. Also interesting if this Reality is the same one at BNH and is connected to Michael Posner.

Did Deepak stated that PvdS was not sleeping in his bedroom?

[vms]

vms ... I see you lurking.

"The Last Boleyn Girl" was an excellent movie.  IMO.

 

Thanks for forewarning me regarding the title.  I had anticipated a spy thriller with a German location when I had misunderstood from my friend with a Scotish accent that the title of the movie was "The Berlin Girl".

 

Anyways the lesson in British history ... my heritage ... was very interesting.

Janet

Thanks, Janet! I am glad you enjoyed it.

Now I have to decide theater or DVD. 

[Tamikosmom]

vms ... I see you lurking.

"The Last Boleyn Girl" was an excellent movie.  IMO.

 

Thanks for forewarning me regarding the title.  I had anticipated a spy thriller with a German location when I had misunderstood from my friend with a Scotish accent that the title of the movie was "The Berlin Girl".

 

Anyways the lesson in British history ... my heritage ... was very interesting.

Janet

Thanks, Janet! I am glad you enjoyed it.

Now I have to decide theater or DVD. 

The spactaculor scenery along dictates that viewing at least once at the theater is where it is at.

Janet.

[Tamikosmom]

If it had not been for Paulus' influencial connections in Holland and Aruba ... justice would have prevailed for Natalee Holloway from the getgo ... the family would have been spared almost three years of a H--- on Earth and ... except in the hearts of her family and friends ... a missing 18 year old American citizen who did not return home from an Aruban vacation would now be a distance memory.

Janet

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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005

GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?

MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


Paulus van der Sloot
NOVA (Twan Huys)
June 28, 2005

JUDICIARY

Reporter (Twan Huys): Which function do you have here at the island? Because many stories go around about that. What is your function?
 
Paulus van der Sloot: I am a replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba [1] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from January the first, 2003, until January the first, 2006.
 
Reporter (Twan Huys): So, you are replacement judge?
 
Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.


PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE
 
Reporter (Twan Huys): Do you know the people very well, for example, the people here from the public prosecutors' office that ordered your detention?

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes, for sure, because, before that, I have worked for eight years as chief of the cabinet of the prosecutor general [2].

Reporter (Twan Huys): So, you also know the current prosecutor general?
 
Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.
 
Reporter (Twan Huys): Mrs. Croes.
 
Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.


ARUBAN LAW ENFORCEMENT

Reporter (Twan Huys): Yes, and what does that mean when your colleagues stop by to arrest you?

Paulus van der Sloot: That gives a feeling of absurdity. It is indeed almost unimaginable that by someone you actually know very well, where you worked together with for a long time, that that one comes to tell you that you are suspected of complicity to murder.

Reporter (Twan Huys): Who was that in your case?

Paulus van der Sloot: That was, in this case, that was the leader of the team of police commissioners.
 
Reporter (Twan Huys): Jan van der Straaten.

Paulus van der Sloot: That was Jan van der Straaten, yes.
 
Reporter (Twan Huys): And you know each other very well?

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.

Translation Credit: Dugo - Riehl Worldview

[vms]

vms ... I see you lurking.

"The Last Boleyn Girl" was an excellent movie.  IMO.

 

Thanks for forewarning me regarding the title.  I had anticipated a spy thriller with a German location when I had misunderstood from my friend with a Scotish accent that the title of the movie was "The Berlin Girl".

 

Anyways the lesson in British history ... my heritage ... was very interesting.

Janet

Thanks, Janet! I am glad you enjoyed it.

Now I have to decide theater or DVD. 

The spactaculor scenery along dictates that viewing at least once at the theater is where it is at.

Janet.

OK, TY!

I waited for the Elizabeth: The Golden Age DVD and regretted that I did not see it in the theater for that exact reason.
Sorry for the O/T everyone.

[Observer]

Did Deepak stated that PvdS was not sleeping in his bedroom?

Can't find it at the moment but I thought I read that PVDS was sleeping in the main house or somewhere where he normally did not sleep.

Satish statement

6/11/05
The father of Joran at that moment was sleeping inside the house

Deepak Statements
6/11/05
To your question whether Joran could have been involved with a rape some time before, I can say the following. I do not know. My brother told me once that a girl had said that she had been impregnated by Joran. I do not know what happened after that.

6/13/05

We then went to Joran's room because Joran's dad wanted to talk to us so we sat down on the floor, because Joran's mattresses were on the floor in his room. Joran's father said to us, see boys what kind of problems this had caused. Then he asked us what we had learned from this. I answered, never offer someone a ride. Joran agreed with me.

6/16/05

To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a sick person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police want more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee.

[Tater]

Hi Monkey's,
  Just got caught up reading.Watched the video link and listened to Dave and Beth.Seem's Dave thinks it all went down at the Sloots house..Bless his heart and Beth's heart too..One thing I've always wondered about and that is why Dave had to find out from his son that Natalee was missing.I wonder why Beth or Jug didn't call him immediatly..I don't know,just sad...

[Magnolia]

*******,
I do believe that Walter Brentt Posner is Michael's son.
I think the article that you posted states that he
has no children with his current wife..though not clearly stated.

Michael Posner is a businessman and casino owner in Aruba. Posner is the owner of the Excelsior, Holiday Inn and Grand Holiday Casinos.

On September 20 2005, MSNBCtelevision news journalist Rita Cosby interviewed an FBI agent who identified Posner as a convicted felon with alleged organized crime ties. Posner's casino, the Excelsior, has been implicated in the Natalee Holloway disappearance. He is currently married with no children to Robin Abergel.

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Monkey's,
  Just got caught up reading.Watched the video link and listened to Dave and Beth.Seem's Dave thinks it all went down at the Sloots house..Bless his heart and Beth's heart too..One thing I've always wondered about and that is why Dave had to find out from his son that Natalee was missing.I wonder why Beth or Jug didn't call him immediatly..I don't know,just sad...

Tot ... at this point Beth knew NOTHING

Dave Holloway
Corruption in Paradise

Page 6
On Money, May 30, Natalee's trip came to an end, and she was due to fly home to Alabama.  But late in the afternoon, I received a call from Matt telling me that Ntalee had missed her flight and that Beth wasgetting on a plane to Aruba.  She had told him to call me, but had no details yet.  I attempted to get in touch with Beth.  No answer.  I googled hotels in Aruba and found a number for the Holiday Inn where the kids had been styaying. 

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Monkey's,
  Just got caught up reading.Watched the video link and listened to Dave and Beth.Seem's Dave thinks it all went down at the Sloots house..Bless his heart and Beth's heart too..One thing I've always wondered about and that is why Dave had to find out from his son that Natalee was missing.I wonder why Beth or Jug didn't call him immediatly..I don't know,just sad...

Tot ... at this point Beth knew NOTHING other than what her mother's instinct told her ... SOMETHING WAS TERRIBLY WRONG ... HER DAUGHTER HAD MISSED THE FLIGHT HOME!

Janet.

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Dave Holloway
Corruption in Paradise

Page 6
On Monday, May 30, Natalee's trip came to an end, and she was due to fly home to Alabama.  But late in the afternoon, I received a call from Matt telling me that Natalee had missed her flight and that Beth was getting on a plane to Aruba.  She had told him to call me, but had no details yet.   I attempted to get in touch with Beth.  No answer.  I googled hotels in Aruba and found a number for the Holiday Inn where the kids had been staying.  I called and was able to talk to one of the trip chaperones who had stayed behind in Natalee's room.  He filled me in about Natalee missing her flight.  At the time, there was not much to go on.

[katrien]

6/16/05

To your question whether I can state anything about the case of the missing girl, I can say the following. Joran had made up the story that there were traces of blood in my car. My car was ripped open by the police and one could see that was this was a lie. Now he is telling a story about how the police should look into it that I always have money. I have a job and get an allowance from my parents. I am not Joran who steals money from his parents. And I am of the opinion that, that this is not the issue at this moment. If you want to find out what happened to the girl and where she is, you have to be with Joran van der SLOOT Joran van der SLOOT is a sick person, he has admitted that he is in the care of a psychologist and that he hits his brother. If the police want more information about Natalee, then you have to be with Joran. He was the last person with the girl, that I can guarantee

.

Weird. Johan555 writes strange things on Fok in the first Nathalee rebound chapter.

[Observer]

*******,
I do believe that Walter Brentt Posner is Michael's son.
I think the article that you posted states that he
has no children with his current wife..though not clearly stated.

Michael Posner is a businessman and casino owner in Aruba. Posner is the owner of the Excelsior, Holiday Inn and Grand Holiday Casinos.

On September 20 2005, MSNBCtelevision news journalist Rita Cosby interviewed an FBI agent who identified Posner as a convicted felon with alleged organized crime ties. Posner's casino, the Excelsior, has been implicated in the Natalee Holloway disappearance. He is currently married with no children to Robin Abergel.

I think your right as I see his name is listed as Michael William Posner: It say's he is 67 years old