Lively Case Discussion #484 6/30 - 7/1/2006

[San]

Oh so what if Bo was kinda pushy ?
All there ppl have been " protecting " J-Goon from real life.
And didn't Joe T go to see " JANE DOE " and get pushy with an underage little girl ?
Can you just picture that ?
What an AspHole Joe T is.
Would never have happened in this country.

I'm going to say Joe T. didn't need to get pushy because Joran, his friends and the ALE already got to her.  Joran was the one who could identify and give her name out.

[Jacqueline]

Do you think all those men were perps before they chatted or do you think chat made them turn into perps?

I don't think chat turns people into perps, I think they were perps before they went to chat.  You aren't a perp right?

I will need to read back    

I'm really a woman, not a pretend woman, so it is unlikely that I will ever be a perp.  Just the facts.

Women can be perps as well, all perps aren't men although probably most are.

Kinda depends on what one is 'perping' for don't it?

Off in your fantasy world now aren't you?  The facts are the facts.  When was the last time you heard about a woman showing up at a boys home or kidnapping him for sex?  That's okay, don't bother answering, because I'm off to relax.  Goodnight and Sleep tight!

What about the rash of incidents that have been on the news lately about women teachers who have been carrying on with their male students.  Some as young as 13.

Those are facts too.

Those are on tv because they are such rare cases.  We are now the third most populated country in the world, and it definitely isn't a common thing.  In these cases, the women knew the boys, they didn't get on the internet or go to a playground to get a stranger.  And in at least one case, she married him after getting out of prison.  I just don't think of them as perps, even though it is wrong, it is doubtful that they would do it again with another boy.

Any grown woman who has sex with a minor child is breaking the law and committing a crime.
I don't care if she met him thru the internet, school, or at Disneyland.

Doubtful they will do it again?

Once is enough as far as I am concerned.

Talk about Double standards.  A 35 year old man has sex with a 13 year old student and he would be put away and rightfully so.

Should be no different with women.

[Anna]

Klaas,
Uh, all ready for the company?  You're not drinking today by any chance are you.  

Nope, don't drink but maybe I should  

Well, just don't drink that awful mess Carnut described.  I don't often but think I am going to now.  Yes, there are times when it does help.  I was just wondering about you as not once but twice I have detected some uninhibited language that is not like you.  We all have our limits, however.


Tell me, what was done to the Lundsfords as a family that was similar to what was done to Natalee's via the internet?  Just the usual trashing or did they try to deal directly with the public and received hate emails or what happened?  I did not hear about that before today.

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[Sleuth]

Sweetie!  How the heck have you been!

Hey...Mermaid is here at night - how are you?

I keep checking the local upscale deli to see if their daily special matches your dinner menu     You are amazing if you can prepare those meals AND work .....Just know that both TerryD and I are coming your way if a hurricane approachess......

[Carnut]

You didn't have to describe me soo vividly did you?

Carnut, you make me laugh.  That was funny.

Hey, Jacquie, I mentioned something the other day that I was disappointed that you didn't catch.

I mentioned the 'Warriors are the greatest' and you didn't pickup on that.

Ya know I do remember reading that.....But sad to say I don't know who the Warriors are.....only thing I could think of was the Movie The Warriors.  Was that what you were refering to??

Yep, that's my favorite 'cult' movie. Fraid I'm not into sports.

That was a great movie!!!!!

I loved the DJ and the way the boyz "bopped" their way back home.

Great flick!!!!!!!!!

Ya know the DJ was the late Lynne Thigpen, sister of Yancy Thigpen of the Pittsburgh Steelers?

[MominTN]

Yep Marten chatted and also emailed me and sent me a pic.

[flyingmermaid]

Sweetie!  How the heck have you been!

Hey...Mermaid is here at night - how are you?

I keep checking the local upscale deli to see if their daily special matches your dinner menu     You are amazing if you can prepare those meals AND work .....Just know that both TerryD and I are coming your way if a hurricane approachess......

I look forward to seeing you both but NOT to another storm.  I just renovated this entire house so hurricanes are out of the question this year!

[Anna]

Yep Marten chatted and also emailed me and sent me a pic.

Will you share the photo with us?

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[Jacqueline]

You didn't have to describe me soo vividly did you?

Carnut, you make me laugh.  That was funny.

Hey, Jacquie, I mentioned something the other day that I was disappointed that you didn't catch.

I mentioned the 'Warriors are the greatest' and you didn't pickup on that.

Ya know I do remember reading that.....But sad to say I don't know who the Warriors are.....only thing I could think of was the Movie The Warriors.  Was that what you were refering to??

Yep, that's my favorite 'cult' movie. Fraid I'm not into sports.

That was a great movie!!!!!

I loved the DJ and the way the boyz "bopped" their way back home.

Great flick!!!!!!!!!

Ya know the DJ was the late Lynne Thigpen, sister of Yancy Thigpen of the Pittsburgh Steelers?

I remember her!!!   Her voice very unique.....That's some good trivia!

[MominTN]

Too bad I didn't figure it out and warn people not to go to Aruba.

[klaasend]

Klaas,
Uh, all ready for the company?  You're not drinking today by any chance are you.  

Nope, don't drink but maybe I should  

Well, just don't drink that awful mess Carnut described.  I don't often but think I am going to now.  Yes, there are times when it does help.  I was just wondering about you as not once but twice I have detected some uninhibited language that is not like you.  We all have our limits, however.


Tell me, what was done to the Lundsfords as a family that was similar to what was done to Natalee's via the internet?  Just the usual trashing or did they try to deal directly with the public and received hate emails or what happened?  I did not hear about that before today.

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Anna - regarding the Lunsfords, just the usual forum stuff.  Just like the refugees but everywhere.  They were at CTV, Websleuths all the forums.  Even in the JML forum.  It was horrible the things they accused the Lunsford family of doing that that little girl.   Then, when she was found people said it was Mark Lunsford's fault because he wasn't home.  Very sick and very sad.  Just like the Refugees, IMO.

[Jacqueline]

Yep Marten chatted and also emailed me and sent me a pic.

Will you share the photo with us?

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Yes that would be great to see it!

[MominTN]

Yep Marten chatted and also emailed me and sent me a pic.

Will you share the photo with us?

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It's all the ones you've seen.  The face pic, then the other ones that look more casual and real, even he one with the purse which I will never forget.

[MominTN]

I'm sure Klaas has the pics, I'm going upstairs now, goodnight!

[Anna]

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It's disappointing that he was using the same photos years ago.  Just
goes to show you never know to whom you are speaking on the Net.

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[Sleuth]

I look forward to seeing you both but NOT to another storm.  I just renovated this entire house so hurricanes are out of the question this year!

I hear ya...post-hurricane landscaping just completed here this last week - the new trees actually went in today.   The roof blew off our beach condo, and is yet to be replaced (should occur in the next 30 days, hopefully).

[Jacqueline]

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It's disappointing that he was using the same photos years ago.  Just
goes to show you never know to whom you are speaking on the Net.

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So true Anna.

[Sleuth]

Yep Marten chatted and also emailed me and sent me a pic.

Will you share the photo with us?

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It's all the ones you've seen.  The face pic, then the other ones that look more casual and real, even he one with the purse which I will never forget.

Just don't tell me it is one with the Natalee case airing in the background....

[Anna]

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It's disappointing that he was using the same photos years ago.  Just
goes to show you never know to whom you are speaking on the Net.

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Speaking of which and replying to myself, I would like to see photos of Joran age fifteen and younger.  Also the rest of the PIMPS.  I hope you will share those as well.  Most of the ones we have now are recent and I don't think any date back that far so would be something unique.

[klaasend]

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It's disappointing that he was using the same photos years ago.  Just
goes to show you never know to whom you are speaking on the Net.

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That's a fact!  I have to say if Marten ever sent me a pic of himself I think I'd run a virus scan.