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« on: March 14, 2008, 02:28:20 AM »

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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 05:38:20 PM »

Ahhh man! what did we have to move for the party was just getting started.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 05:43:40 PM »

In case you guys missed this while you were partying  .  Posted by caesu in the previous thread:

http://patrickvandereem.nl/

you probably already seen this but patrick put a link to SM on his blog
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 05:48:05 PM »

Ahhh man! what did we have to move for the party was just getting started.

Do I dare come out now that Klaas is back?

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 05:50:49 PM »

In case you guys missed this while you were partying  .  Posted by caesu in the previous thread:

http://patrickvandereem.nl/

you probably already seen this but patrick put a link to SM on his blog

 
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 05:51:26 PM »

Ahhh man! what did we have to move for the party was just getting started.

Do I dare come out now that Klaas is back?



  Took a nap, woke up just in time, lol
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 05:52:44 PM »

Moszkowicz was not in the show tonight.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2008, 05:54:42 PM »

Moszkowicz was not in the show tonight.

Is that the Jensen show?  Too bad it would have been interresting.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 05:59:05 PM »

Klaas.....O/T

Autopsy confirms body is Janna Kelly; homicide is cause of death
please mark thread, ty.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 06:03:26 PM »

Klaas.....O/T

Autopsy confirms body is Janna Kelly; homicide is cause of death
please mark thread, ty.

Thanks Nut - done

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2008, 06:07:36 PM »

In case you guys missed this while you were partying  .  Posted by caesu in the previous thread:

http://patrickvandereem.nl/

you probably already seen this but patrick put a link to SM on his blog

Wrong link for BFN
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 06:09:17 PM »

caesu

Did that say that Mos didn't prosecute because Rudy pressured him no to prosecute or Mos didn't prosecute despite the pressure from Rudy??   
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 06:11:45 PM »

In case you guys missed this while you were partying  .  Posted by caesu in the previous thread:

http://patrickvandereem.nl/

you probably already seen this but patrick put a link to SM on his blog

Wrong link for BFN

Yes, he forgot the (s) in Blogs
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2008, 06:14:00 PM »

In case you guys missed this while you were partying  .  Posted by caesu in the previous thread:

http://patrickvandereem.nl/

you probably already seen this but patrick put a link to SM on his blog
Thanks Klaas, I had not seen it!  And I missed the party...
   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2008, 06:20:39 PM »

about the "buoy toll" that was mentioned before, that was from one of the shango posts

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”

i found this poem (for what it's worth)


WINTER FALL by Carol Kohli
 
The scepter lies broken on the field.
Greensward, unblemished, stretches before the eye.
Battle cries long ago ascended, lost among the stars. 
The absence of conflict fills the silent air.
 The world hangs in abeyance between past and future. 
An errant thought sets the new course; 
the completed cycle becomes ancient history, 
recounted in a new context, subject to narrative and vision.

Life slips away. A single breath separates us from the abyss.
To live in the presence of death is the best preparation for life. 
Certainty is an illusion. Change is inevitable;
so is the final yielding.

It is over. Time has the final say. 
No more casting about for hopeful possibility. 
It is time to be still to wait to surrender 
the earthly crown with grace.

Let the bell buoy toll the return to the eternal sea, 
the infinity of water cradle scorched bones softly, 
til all settles silently in the dark depths.

Where does the universe end? It' s expanding-
expanding into what? What's out there, 
billions of light years away, that it's expanding into? 
Does the universe think, feel? 
Does it consider its demise its speculated collapse in on itself?
What happens then? 
If it were an entity, would it be male, female? Would it be kind?

One with the whole, we take the spectacular ride, 
live the questions, die with them still in our hearts. 
From the larger perspective the answers may appear, 
and we may say with relief and satisfaction, "of course."
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2008, 06:22:47 PM »

about the "buoy toll" that was mentioned before, that was from one of the shango posts

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”

i found this poem (for what it's worth)


WINTER FALL by Carol Kohli
 
The scepter lies broken on the field.
Greensward, unblemished, stretches before the eye.
Battle cries long ago ascended, lost among the stars. 
The absence of conflict fills the silent air.
 The world hangs in abeyance between past and future. 
An errant thought sets the new course; 
the completed cycle becomes ancient history, 
recounted in a new context, subject to narrative and vision.

Life slips away. A single breath separates us from the abyss.
To live in the presence of death is the best preparation for life. 
Certainty is an illusion. Change is inevitable;
so is the final yielding.

It is over. Time has the final say. 
No more casting about for hopeful possibility. 
It is time to be still to wait to surrender 
the earthly crown with grace.

Let the bell buoy toll the return to the eternal sea, 
the infinity of water cradle scorched bones softly, 
til all settles silently in the dark depths.

Where does the universe end? It' s expanding-
expanding into what? What's out there, 
billions of light years away, that it's expanding into? 
Does the universe think, feel? 
Does it consider its demise its speculated collapse in on itself?
What happens then? 
If it were an entity, would it be male, female? Would it be kind?

One with the whole, we take the spectacular ride, 
live the questions, die with them still in our hearts. 
From the larger perspective the answers may appear, 
and we may say with relief and satisfaction, "of course."

 
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2008, 06:25:52 PM »

caesu

Did that say that Mos didn't prosecute because Rudy pressured him no to prosecute or Mos didn't prosecute despite the pressure from Rudy??   

Mos said he did prosecute but not because of pressure from Rudy Croes.
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Prosecution no political process

14-03-2008

The matter against the Aruban former prime minister Henny Eman and former minister of finance Tico Croes was no political matter. That says the judge in its pronouncement in the case Fondo Desaroyo Nobo San Nicolas, where in the time of cabinet-Eman would be disappeared the considerable amount outside the budget for. Henny Eman were clearred, but Tico Croes got ten months conditionally and 240 hours service because of corruption.

The judge found that he could assess not well if budgets had been exceeded, because the figures are not certain. There is no approved annual account for the period about which it goes. According to the Public Prosecution Service means this that financial mis governance leads therefore to immunity.

Still Justice chief public prosecutor Hans Mos is on most of the points is not ' dissatisfied '. The acquittal was related to summary offence of the 'comptabiliteitsverordering', a regulation which must guarantee a good government household. Against that acquittal the Public Prosecution Service is considering an appeal.

"It is sour that people who frequently give control are getting of the hook, whereas people who give implementation are condemned", says Mos. For this reason the condemnation of Croes on two points gives nevertheless reason for satisfaction. Further he is glad that the judge has made it clear that the Public Prosecution Service has not proceeded to prosecution under pressure of justice minister Rudy Croes (MEP), a political opponent of the suspected AVP politicians

http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080314_uitspraak-eman

Tico Croes = former finance minister (AVP)
Rudy Croes = current justice minister (MEP)
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2008, 06:33:31 PM »

BBL   I'm going to my son's baseball game, wearing my brand new "Standing with the Girl" t shirt!
   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2008, 06:37:53 PM »

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/tekst/column-peter-politiek-tot.htm

new column Peter R.
not related to Natalee.

in short it is about Peter being asked by the justice commitee of the parliament to hear him about the connections between the criminal world and the regular world.
the justice commitee assumed Peter would come to The Hague for that.
Peter suggested a meeting in his office in Hilversum (near Amsterdam).
but then the justice commitee wasn't interested anymore.
apparently afraid to leave their offices in The Hague.

Peter R. expect the justice commitee to come up with a report in wich they say they did 'thorough' research...
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2008, 06:39:17 PM »

thanks caesu
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