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« Reply #440 on: March 16, 2008, 11:10:44 AM »

Morning Monkeys!  So Aruba thinks Greta reported things that were not true and that has caused them irreparable harm?  Hmmmmmm.  I wonder what that night be? 

Joran let Natalee die on the beach?   Didn't he confess to that one?
Joran asked Daury to dispose of the body?  Didn't he confess to that too?
Joran took her to his house?  PV states they stopped at the Sloots but didn't go in.
Joran showed her the sharks?  Even the Kalpoes said they went to lighthouse.
Paulus sweats too much?  Oops!  Sorry that's documented.
Paulus picked Joran up at 11:00 P.M. at the McDonald's?  Gosh!  I think there documentation that he really didn't...yep, it's there.
Anita doesn't wear a bra?  Nah!!!  We all know she does. LOL
Joran was never in CnC's that night it was someone else?  Let's ask Deepak about that one.
Freddy needs to tell the truth?  You betcha! 

So what did Greta say that was any different from everyone else?  That's what I thought, AHATA is about the most useless organization on planet earth.  You got that right!
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« Reply #441 on: March 16, 2008, 11:20:25 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys!

Destiny, Miss Scarlet and Tot..I'm Sooo Happy to see that You are All OK after the storms Yesterday.....

Me too!!  Glad you're all ok
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« Reply #442 on: March 16, 2008, 11:38:40 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys!

Destiny, Miss Scarlet and Tot..I'm Sooo Happy to see that You are All OK after the storms Yesterday.....

Mornin' Hotping!   Tis' good to be here Wink
Mornin' Back At Ya Destiny! Tis' Very Good To have You Here....
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« Reply #443 on: March 16, 2008, 11:41:40 AM »

Morning Monkeys!  So Aruba thinks Greta reported things that were not true and that has caused them irreparable harm?  Hmmmmmm.  I wonder what that night be? 

Joran let Natalee die on the beach?   Didn't he confess to that one?
Joran asked Daury to dispose of the body?  Didn't he confess to that too?
Joran took her to his house?  PV states they stopped at the Sloots but didn't go in.
Joran showed her the sharks?  Even the Kalpoes said they went to lighthouse.
Paulus sweats too much?  Oops!  Sorry that's documented.
Paulus picked Joran up at 11:00 P.M. at the McDonald's?  Gosh!  I think there documentation that he really didn't...yep, it's there.
Anita doesn't wear a bra?  Nah!!!  We all know she does. LOL
Joran was never in CnC's that night it was someone else?  Let's ask Deepak about that one.
Freddy needs to tell the truth?  You betcha! 

So what did Greta say that was any different from everyone else?  That's what I thought, AHATA is about the most useless organization on planet earth.  You got that right!

Yep Lala's...AHATA is 'bout as useless as tits on a boar...

I really do hope that those dumbazzes follow through with this current *flight of fancy* and file suit against FOX/Greta...talk about keeping the backside of Aruba in the spotlight...I didn't think anything more stupid than Urine confessing on tape could happen...AHATA proved me wrong on that one....

What *perfect* justice for Aruba...those pea sized craniums taking on the US Media, in a *rights* defamation law suit...as Greta said *BRING IT ON!!!*
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« Reply #444 on: March 16, 2008, 11:59:14 AM »

Ahhh very interesting! Rik Smid is a expert on Money Laundering in Casino's!

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Caribbean Financial Action Task Force

Caribbean Financial Action Task Force CFATF Typology Exercise II: Casino Regulatory Conference Aruba - July 16-17, 1997

The Nature and Extent of Money Laundering in the Casino and Gaming Industry Hon. Tennyson R.G. Wells, AG and Minister of Justice-The Bahamas
Mr. Rick Smid, National Public Prosecutor-Netherlands

Mr. Smid noted that Casinos are attractive to money launderers for a variety of reasons. One reason that Casinos are attractive to money launderers is because they offer a broad range of financial services including the issuing of credit, transfers of money into and out of bank accounts, currency exchanges services, issuance of checks and the acceptance of deposits.

As Gomer Pyle would say; "well surprise, surprise!"   

Well Golleeee TM  What was Mr Van Der Sloot doing in 1997 and 1998  About that time he was setting up contracts for the Govt and was the cabinets leader for the public ministry. Right after this Rick Smid gave this report on Money Laundering in Casinos. One Mob group left the Holiday Inn/Excelsior and then another took there place in 1997/1998,strange is it not?  8 and 10 years later this same Rick Smid became a Judge in the Antilles and played a vital role in sabataging Natalee's justice.

Appears Mr. Van Der Sloot was just about everywhere in that Aruban Govt. Worked 5 years as a lawyer for the Aruban Govt and was there legal advisor,set up contracts for the Govt,was a the cabinet leader in the Public Ministry,worked for the Attorney General and taught Administrative Law,then became a substitute Judge. After he failed as a Judge he then asked to work for Rudy Croes in the Dept of Justice. We know he then was released as a suspect in Natalee's dissapearance and was allowed to be a partner in a law firm and serve on several Govt Committees. Even though the Supreme Court has wire taps,witnesses and from his own mouth that he had two contacts with Natalee Holloway and picked her up at 4AM. He is still the last known person to see Natalee besides his son.
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« Reply #445 on: March 16, 2008, 12:02:16 PM »

Good to see Destiny back with us!  Earthquakes only last less then a minute but these Tornado's last hours and are scary huh destiny? I think I'd rather see a earthquake,but not the kind I felt in 1994 in Northridge   
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« Reply #446 on: March 16, 2008, 12:16:40 PM »


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« Reply #447 on: March 16, 2008, 12:32:20 PM »

Faces and names have changed but it's always been business as usual for the Mafioso and the Aruban Govt. That Holiday Inn and Casino has been run by the Mob for 30 years. I am convinced this plays a role why Natalee has never received justice. Paul Van Der Sloot is involved in this one way or another.IMO

We have all read the Rothchilds of Aruba and it's no coincidence that the names involved all play a part in Natalee's nightmare. Just last week Aruba had there biggest corruption case and you will see many of them were involved like the Emans and Croes. 7 out of 10 were convicted and received light sentences.
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Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied.

Paolo Cuntrera visited the island regularly despite his expulsion in 1988. The government opposed his legal actions for re-admittance. But Hendrik Croes has to admit the procedures were not stainless. A blundering government lawyer, an official who signed a residence permit 'by mistake', meant that de facto Paolo Cuntrera was able to circulate freely on the island.

According to Canadian police reports, in 1978, Pasquale Cuntrera owned the Holiday Inn Casino – although the registers indicated otherwise.
"At the start of 1980s the Cuntrera's were often at the Holiday Inn casino," says a croupier. "In 1989 they were there again, although they were ostensibly thrown of the island."

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« Reply #448 on: March 16, 2008, 12:48:05 PM »

Good to see Destiny back with us!  Earthquakes only last less then a minute but these Tornado's last hours and are scary huh destiny? I think I'd rather see a earthquake,but not the kind I felt in 1994 in Northridge   

LOL, small earthquakes are way more enjoyable, those mild rolling ones, not the kind that go verticaly ka boom.

"He is still the last known person to see Natalee besides his son." quoting you from above post. As I recall, it was Paulus himself who let it slip that he picked "them" up at 4 am. If I recall correctly, I think that was one of the reasons Paulus lost his lawsuit. What I would love to see is the records of any wiretaps.
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« Reply #449 on: March 16, 2008, 12:54:10 PM »

Good Morning Monkeys!

Destiny - I am so glad that you and everyone from Georgia are OK.

Karma - You were so awesome.  I didn't Google.  I just followed your lead.

******* - You're right!  I did mean Destiny instead of Dynasty.  See, I keep telling all of you that my mind is Swiss cheese since reading the Hodge's book.

Klaas - Can someone get us the name of the dealership that is giving the trip to Crappy Island?  I think that they need some mail.
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« Reply #450 on: March 16, 2008, 12:59:42 PM »

Good Morning Monkeys!

Destiny - I am so glad that you and everyone from Georgia are OK.

Karma - You were so awesome.  I didn't Google.  I just followed your lead.

******* - You're right!  I did mean Destiny instead of Dynasty.  See, I keep telling all of you that my mind is Swiss cheese since reading the Hodge's book.

Klaas - Can someone get us the name of the dealership that is giving the trip to Crappy Island?  I think that they need some mail.

I think SB was going to look into the name of the dealership.  i can't do much about looking into it from where I am, lol .  It will take someone in the Birmingham area to physically go to the mall and see. 
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« Reply #451 on: March 16, 2008, 01:01:35 PM »

Good to see Destiny back with us!  Earthquakes only last less then a minute but these Tornado's last hours and are scary huh destiny? I think I'd rather see a earthquake,but not the kind I felt in 1994 in Northridge   

LOL, small earthquakes are way more enjoyable, those mild rolling ones, not the kind that go verticaly ka boom.

"He is still the last known person to see Natalee besides his son." quoting you from above post. As I recall, it was Paulus himself who let it slip that he picked "them" up at 4 am. If I recall correctly, I think that was one of the reasons Paulus lost his lawsuit. What I would love to see is the records of any wiretaps.

Yup..After going through enough quakes you can hear the rumble before it hits..I know you guys in California have felt your share..I must admit they were all fun except in 1994 when I was almost bouncing on the ceiling..lol..Although the aftershocks were cool with the car bouncing and seeing stop signs swaying back and forth 

That was the reason PVDS lost his lawsuit according to the Supreme Court..It's not like the slimeball told one person he picked them up at 4AM,he stated it many times until he changed his story before he was arrested. Wiretaps and Phone records no doubt tell the full story what happened.
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« Reply #452 on: March 16, 2008, 01:04:14 PM »

Good Morning Monkeys!

Destiny, Miss Scarlet and Tot..I'm Sooo Happy to see that You are All OK after the storms Yesterday.....

Mornin' Hotping!   Tis' good to be here Wink
Mornin' Back At Ya Destiny! Tis' Very Good To have You Here....
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« Reply #453 on: March 16, 2008, 01:20:02 PM »

Good to see Destiny back with us!  Earthquakes only last less then a minute but these Tornado's last hours and are scary huh destiny? I think I'd rather see a earthquake,but not the kind I felt in 1994 in Northridge   

LOL, small earthquakes are way more enjoyable, those mild rolling ones, not the kind that go verticaly ka boom.

"He is still the last known person to see Natalee besides his son." quoting you from above post. As I recall, it was Paulus himself who let it slip that he picked "them" up at 4 am. If I recall correctly, I think that was one of the reasons Paulus lost his lawsuit. What I would love to see is the records of any wiretaps.

Yup..After going through enough quakes you can hear the rumble before it hits..I know you guys in California have felt your share..I must admit they were all fun except in 1994 when I was almost bouncing on the ceiling..lol..Although the aftershocks were cool with the car bouncing and seeing stop signs swaying back and forth 

That was the reason PVDS lost his lawsuit according to the Supreme Court..It's not like the slimeball told one person he picked them up at 4AM,he stated it many times until he changed his story before he was arrested. Wiretaps and Phone records no doubt tell the full story what happened.
*******...Have We ever learned the reason why Paulus did not make Judge? Seems He has lots of so called friends I just can't imagine why He didn't make it....
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« Reply #454 on: March 16, 2008, 01:21:01 PM »

Haha thanks TM Smile You make me feel good!



I wonder if this is the same Judge Smid? I know his name is Smit also Sad

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Rick Smid
Oberstaatsamwalt, Dept. of Justice,
Rotterdam, The Netherlands

http://tinyurl.com/3dzoot
*******, I think that is one of the places I found him referenced; it seems like the other was a summit on drugs IIRC.
Why did I think your post said "Aids" policy?  I promise I'm not BUI!  I found him referenced signing 2 different policies, which is all I could make heads or tails of because most of the links were in Dutch.
 

I edited it from Aids to Drugs because other links confirmed the drug policy  PVDS spent a year in Holland training for to be a Judge,ample opportunity to meet this Rick Smid as well as his 20 years he spent in Holland working in the same field.
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« Reply #455 on: March 16, 2008, 01:31:48 PM »

*******...Have We ever learned the reason why Paulus did not make Judge? Seems He has lots of so called friends I just can't imagine why He didn't make it....

I read he failed his exams not sure how correct that was,others say he learned of his failure right before May 29th 2005 but Im not sure about that either. PVDS when interviewed said he was not ready to be a Judge.
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I do not intend to point any fingers or acuse anyone, nevertheless for the sake of what is going on I will provide this information: Paul v/der Sloot failed a substancial part of his exams in the judge-in-training program (RAIO-opleiding in Dutch) . He was actually kicked out of the program the beginning of this year and cannot return, hence not become a full fledged judge. Considering his position and his career in the Dutch/Aruban justice system so far, this should have had a great impact on him. Although I truly hope that Paul is not involved and that Natalee will show up alive, it must be said that he was already in a ‘difficult’ position before his son being involved in this situation.

I hope someone picks up on this. I apologize for the anonimity.


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Hello All...

Geraldo is in Aruba. He interviewed the judicial minister today who cleared up that Paul Van Der Sloot was a failed judge in training. He failed the test in Holland and the week prior to Natalee's disapearance Paul was in to see the judicial minister asking for a job. Paul was out of work. The judicial minister also told Geraldo that he thought Paul was arrested to put pressure on his son to talk. We get bits and pieces from the officials but this was more info than I have heard from any of officials.

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« Reply #456 on: March 16, 2008, 01:43:07 PM »

*******...Have We ever learned the reason why Paulus did not make Judge? Seems He has lots of so called friends I just can't imagine why He didn't make it....

I read he failed his exams not sure how correct that was,others say he learned of his failure right before May 29th 2005 but Im not sure about that either. PVDS when interviewed said he was not ready to be a Judge.
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I do not intend to point any fingers or acuse anyone, nevertheless for the sake of what is going on I will provide this information: Paul v/der Sloot failed a substancial part of his exams in the judge-in-training program (RAIO-opleiding in Dutch) . He was actually kicked out of the program the beginning of this year and cannot return, hence not become a full fledged judge. Considering his position and his career in the Dutch/Aruban justice system so far, this should have had a great impact on him. Although I truly hope that Paul is not involved and that Natalee will show up alive, it must be said that he was already in a ‘difficult’ position before his son being involved in this situation.

I hope someone picks up on this. I apologize for the anonimity.


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Geraldo is in Aruba. He interviewed the judicial minister today who cleared up that Paul Van Der Sloot was a failed judge in training. He failed the test in Holland and the week prior to Natalee's disapearance Paul was in to see the judicial minister asking for a job. Paul was out of work. The judicial minister also told Geraldo that he thought Paul was arrested to put pressure on his son to talk. We get bits and pieces from the officials but this was more info than I have heard from any of officials.

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Thank You ******* for the reply...its sounds to Me like getting Kicked Out and failing His exams are two very different reasons for Him not becoming a Judge....hmmmmm...like failing the exams is just the excuse for kicking Him out of the program   
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« Reply #457 on: March 16, 2008, 01:44:39 PM »

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Faces and names have changed but it's always been business as usual for the Mafioso and the Aruban Govt. That Holiday Inn and Casino has been run by the Mob for 30 years. I am convinced this plays a role why Natalee has never received justice. Paul Van Der Sloot is involved in this one way or another.IMO

I have no doubt this is true. We all have read about what I perceive to be the less than "above board" actions of those in management positions at the Holiday Inn Sunspree Aruba with the disappearance and locating of American tourist Joyce Buckley. Does everyone recall her parents reported her missing only to have it later said she "turned up" and was found sleeping in her mothers room? Hmmmm how could she have gotten in there when the key card she possessed fit her own room? Many others have experienced
 problems, ie robbery through a locked room equaling an inside job at the HI Aruba.

The hotels corruption filters down through all levels. Didn't this hotel allow Joran to frequent it's premises even when they knew he "prayed upon tourists"? Didn't Dave Holloway (as stated in his book) encounter Michael Dompig in the hallway of the HI with a friend trying to "pick-up" tourists?

If AHATA would like to improve Aruba's image, they should not think first about suing Greta for  allegations they feel were harmful  but try cleaning up the unlawful management of the Holiday Inn.
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« Reply #458 on: March 16, 2008, 01:48:26 PM »

Haha thanks TM Smile You make me feel good!



I wonder if this is the same Judge Smid? I know his name is Smit also Sad

1993 signed the clintons Drug Policy

Rick Smid
Oberstaatsamwalt, Dept. of Justice,
Rotterdam, The Netherlands

http://tinyurl.com/3dzoot
*******, I think that is one of the places I found him referenced; it seems like the other was a summit on drugs IIRC.
Why did I think your post said "Aids" policy?  I promise I'm not BUI!  I found him referenced signing 2 different policies, which is all I could make heads or tails of because most of the links were in Dutch.
 

I edited it from Aids to Drugs because other links confirmed the drug policy  PVDS spent a year in Holland training for to be a Judge,ample opportunity to meet this Rick Smid as well as his 20 years he spent in Holland working in the same field.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #459 on: March 16, 2008, 01:52:10 PM »

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Faces and names have changed but it's always been business as usual for the Mafioso and the Aruban Govt. That Holiday Inn and Casino has been run by the Mob for 30 years. I am convinced this plays a role why Natalee has never received justice. Paul Van Der Sloot is involved in this one way or another.IMO

I have no doubt this is true. We all have read about what I perceive to be the less than "above board" actions of those in management positions at the Holiday Inn Sunspree Aruba with the disappearance and locating of American tourist Joyce Buckley. Does everyone recall her parents reported her missing only to have it later said she "turned up" and was found sleeping in her mothers room? Hmmmm how could she have gotten in there when the key card she possessed fit her own room? Many others have experienced
 problems, ie robbery through a locked room equaling an inside job at the HI Aruba.

The hotels corruption filters down through all levels. Didn't this hotel allow Joran to frequent it's premises even when they knew he "prayed upon tourists"? Didn't Dave Holloway (as stated in his book) encounter Michael Dompig in the hallway of the HI with a friend trying to "pick-up" tourists?

If AHATA would like to improve Aruba's image, they should not think first about suing Greta for  allegations they feel were harmful  but try cleaning up the unlawful management of the Holiday Inn.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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