Natalee Case Discussion #743 3/14 - 3/19/08

[Katherine]

Quote from: crazybabyborg on March 15, 2008, 10:39:35 PM

I did a little research on Greta and her husband last night. I WOULD NOT want to come up against that pair in court! Her hubby's practice is a real HEAVYWEIGHT! Her sister ran for a Senate seat and is a forensic psychiatrist, and he authored the class action suit against the tobacco companies in the 1990's and won. They've attending White House State dinners and hosted fund raisers for the Democratic Party. I so wish Aruba would take them on!

(added HOSTED fundraisers.....)



Greta and her heavyweight husband could call Joran, Paulus, Jannsen, Van der Straten, Jacobs, the Kalpoes, Guido, Lorenao, the Gottenbos, Steve croes, Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Rob Smith, Jorge Pesquera, Bob Wit, Rick Smid, and others to the witness stand.

She will also be able to subpoena the financial files of legal bills of the Van der Sloots/Kalpoes as well as the financial files of AHATA, casino tapes, and all other kind of goodies.

This could be fun! Get them all into a U.S. court where they can use the Fifth Amendment in a civil suit. I think by the time a jury sees all the filth that has gone on down there they will end up awarding Greta the damages.
 
 
Let's don't forget the Strategic Task Force,  our angry ex-pats,
Renee and the "documentary", Posner, and the list goes on!
My personal favorites would be the Americans, because they are a disgrace to their homeland.  Sorry!  That just popped out. 

[KarmaRoundUp]

This is great and you just can't make this up.  It's genetic!!!

Petrus van der Sloot is the patriarch of the Sloots.  He was born in Boxtel in 1808.  It just doesn't get much better than this.  He was born on the floor and thrown in a ditch. 

From this statement, it appears that she knew Theodora van den Broek well and that Theodora was the widow of Mattijs Koppens. She also declared that the floor of her house in the spot where Theodora van den Broek had been sitting showed signs of childbirth. From these lines I concluded that Petrus had been born in the immediate proximity of the home of Catharina van den Heuvel and her husband Johannes de Weert sometime between eleven in the morning and two in the afternoon.

Next Theodora van den Broek said to Catharina van den Heuvel that she was going to Jenneke Vogels’ house where she did not arrive until five o’clock, according to the latter. Between the hours of two and three o’clock this mother must have been busy with the preparations of disposing of our patriarch Petrus, because, according to the statement of Arnoldus Merks, he found him that same day between three and four o’clock. Another argument could be that Petrus from two until three or four o’clock had been lying in the ditch.

Arnoldus Merks makes his discovery after following baby sounds coming from a ditch near the homes of Johannes de Weert and Martinus Leppers. When he got closer, he first discovered a little foot then the child, which was naked and covered with dirt, sand, and foliage.

http://www.vandersloot.com/vandersloothistory/english/default.htm

No doubt it is genetic lol
Thanks for all of this good info SS.

[MumInOhio]

Quote from: crazybabyborg on March 15, 2008, 10:39:35 PM

I did a little research on Greta and her husband last night. I WOULD NOT want to come up against that pair in court! Her hubby's practice is a real HEAVYWEIGHT! Her sister ran for a Senate seat and is a forensic psychiatrist, and he authored the class action suit against the tobacco companies in the 1990's and won. They've attending White House State dinners and hosted fund raisers for the Democratic Party. I so wish Aruba would take them on!

(added HOSTED fundraisers.....)



Greta and her heavyweight husband could call Joran, Paulus, Jannsen, Van der Straten, Jacobs, the Kalpoes, Guido, Lorenao, the Gottenbos, Steve croes, Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Rob Smith, Jorge Pesquera, Bob Wit, Rick Smid, and others to the witness stand.

She will also be able to subpoena the financial files of legal bills of the Van der Sloots/Kalpoes as well as the financial files of AHATA, casino tapes, and all other kind of goodies.

This could be fun! Get them all into a U.S. court where they can use the Fifth Amendment in a civil suit. I think by the time a jury sees all the filth that has gone on down there they will end up awarding Greta the damages.
 
 
Let's don't forget the Strategic Task Force,  our angry ex-pats,
Renee and the "documentary", Posner, and the list goes on!
My personal favorites would be the Americans, because they are a disgrace to their homeland.  Sorry!  That just popped out. 

Hi Katherine...I would like to see the Zeolla's on the witness stand, after all that is where Paulus said that he was picking Sebastion up from in his PV.

But surely the FBI has questioned all the expat Americans as they would not even have to ask ALE for permission to interview American citizens living overseas, would they?

[Magnolia]

This is great and you just can't make this up.  It's genetic!!!

Petrus van der Sloot is the patriarch of the Sloots.  He was born in Boxtel in 1808.  It just doesn't get much better than this.  He was born on the floor and thrown in a ditch. 

From this statement, it appears that she knew Theodora van den Broek well and that Theodora was the widow of Mattijs Koppens. She also declared that the floor of her house in the spot where Theodora van den Broek had been sitting showed signs of childbirth. From these lines I concluded that Petrus had been born in the immediate proximity of the home of Catharina van den Heuvel and her husband Johannes de Weert sometime between eleven in the morning and two in the afternoon.

Next Theodora van den Broek said to Catharina van den Heuvel that she was going to Jenneke Vogels’ house where she did not arrive until five o’clock, according to the latter. Between the hours of two and three o’clock this mother must have been busy with the preparations of disposing of our patriarch Petrus, because, according to the statement of Arnoldus Merks, he found him that same day between three and four o’clock. Another argument could be that Petrus from two until three or four o’clock had been lying in the ditch.

Arnoldus Merks makes his discovery after following baby sounds coming from a ditch near the homes of Johannes de Weert and Martinus Leppers. When he got closer, he first discovered a little foot then the child, which was naked and covered with dirt, sand, and foliage.

http://www.vandersloot.com/vandersloothistory/english/default.htm

SS,  thanks for the genealogy.  This is an interesting document and explains a lot.

[Tamikosmom]

"My Name is Natalee’s Mom"

Beth Holloway

Saturday, March 15, 2008

7:30 p.m.

Muscle Shoals High School Auditorium

Hear:

About the loss of her daughter
How her Faith sustains her each day
About the International Safe Travels Foundation
 

Beth has chosen to speak out about her experiences in the hopes of sparing other families from having to face the same loss.

$30 per ticket

Ticket Outlets:

 Muscle Shoals High School Office
 
 Valley Credit Union – Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, Tuscumbia, & Russellville
 
 Coldwater Books – Tuscumbia
 
 First Franklin Financial – Muscle Shoals & Florence
 

http://mshsbb.org/

*******


Holloway to visit Green Schools

GREEN — The Green Schools Foundation (GSF) will present Beth Holloway March 17 at 8 p.m. in the auditorium at Green High School.

Holloway will share the story of her daughter, Natalee, who disappeared in Aruba May 30, 2005, during a school-sponsored trip.

Holloway has established the International SAFE TRAVELS Foundation to advocate for victims’ rights and to help the millions of Americans who travel internationally plan and enjoy a safer trip. She has appeared on TV networks and in numerous magazine and newspaper articles, and was selected by Barbara Walters as one of the world’s most fascinating people for her perseverance in seeking answers to what happened to her daughter.

Holloway recently completed a nationwide tour promoting her book, “Loving Natalee.”

The presentation is free and open to the public.

http://www.akron.com/akron-ohio-community-news.asp?aID=1896

Thanks Klaas.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Janet
8:15 AM

[Tamikosmom]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:   

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/03/15/aruba-and-the-ahata-suing-greta-van-susteren-for-slanderous-statements-about-aruban-tourism-natalee-holloway-investigation/

Aruba and the AHATA Suing Greta Van Susteren for Slanderous Statements about Aruban Tourism & Natalee Holloway Investigation

Thanks Klaas

Do you have a YouTube link?  It may work better for me.

Thanks

Janet

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:   

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/03/15/aruba-and-the-ahata-suing-greta-van-susteren-for-slanderous-statements-about-aruban-tourism-natalee-holloway-investigation/

Aruba and the AHATA Suing Greta Van Susteren for Slanderous Statements about Aruban Tourism & Natalee Holloway Investigation

Thanks Klaas

Do you have a YouTube link?  It may work better for me.

Thanks

Janet

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BorDI9EzrF4

Here is the old CourtTV one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hfZi9jpsk&feature=user


I'm going to be lurking today again.  I have company for a couple days and intend to spend some time with them.

[Finbar]

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.
 


Fin

[jackb]

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Palus and his oldest (at least) spawn came from hell.  jackb

[BTgirl]

Since there has been some discussion about the VDS ancestry, I was asked to post this by someone who has an interest in genealogy. They were all part of the land lawsuit in Boxtel that Paulus' family started.


{{edit - see link for names}}
 
http://www.echr.coe.int/ECHR/EN/Header/Case-Law/HUDOC/HUDOC+database/

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?item=1&portal=hbkm&action=html&highlight=sloot&sessionid=6262211&skin=hudoc-en

[jackb]

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Palus and his oldest (at least) spawn came from hell.  jackb

Aruba Postal Service emits Solidarity Stamps

The 60+30c stamp represents the Aruba Lions Club, an organization that celebrated its 50th anniversary in Aruba on January 31, 1998.

Aruba Lions Club is a service organization that affiliated with Lions Club International. This international organization exists for 81 years now and has 44,000 clubs and 1,500,000 members around the world. The main objective of the Aruba Lions Club is to identify the necessities in our community and look for the necessary ways to satisfy these necessities. On this stamp we can appreciate our country Aruba, being held in balance on one side by a wheel-chair, that symbolizes one of the main projects of the Aruba Lions Club being the continuous delivery of wheelchairs to those in need for them, and at the other end the Globe signifying that the Aruba Lions Club is affiliated to a world wide organization. In the center the emblem of Lions is reflected. The Aruba Lions Club has 70 members, all civic-minded volunteers serving the community of Aruba.
 

[jackb]

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Palus and his oldest (at least) spawn came from hell.  jackb

Also Joran and Palus are throwbacks from FREEK Vds.  J/b

[MumInOhio]

Since there has been some discussion about the VDS ancestry, I was asked to post this by someone who has an interest in genealogy. They were all part of the land lawsuit in Boxtel that Paulus' family started.


{{edit - see link for names}}
 
http://www.echr.coe.int/ECHR/EN/Header/Case-Law/HUDOC/HUDOC+database/

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?item=1&portal=hbkm&action=html&highlight=sloot&sessionid=6262211&skin=hudoc-en

Thanks...BT...nice to see you...That's a keeper...

Tamikosmom...I hope you had a wonderful weekend on beautiful Vancouver Island. We spent an Easter in Victoria, 24 years ago. Double-decker busses, crumpets and hot cross buns...

[jackb]

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Palus and his oldest (at least) spawn came from hell.  jackb

Also Joran and Palus are throwbacks from FREEK Vds.  J/b

Also smiley may be sitting on some connection things.  j/b

[katrien]

Is it really necessary to put names of familymembers on the Internet.

[BTgirl]

Is it really necessary to put names of familymembers on the Internet.

Hi Katrien,

I'll leave it up to Klaas. If she feels they shouldn't be there, I don't mind at all if she deletes the post.

[klaasend]

Is it really necessary to put names of familymembers on the Internet.

I understand what you are saying but the names are already on the internet.  I can delete the names and leave the link.

[BUCKSHOT]

Quote from: crazybabyborg on March 15, 2008, 10:39:35 PM

I did a little research on Greta and her husband last night. I WOULD NOT want to come up against that pair in court! Her hubby's practice is a real HEAVYWEIGHT! Her sister ran for a Senate seat and is a forensic psychiatrist, and he authored the class action suit against the tobacco companies in the 1990's and won. They've attending White House State dinners and hosted fund raisers for the Democratic Party. I so wish Aruba would take them on!

(added HOSTED fundraisers.....)



Greta and her heavyweight husband could call Joran, Paulus, Jannsen, Van der Straten, Jacobs, the Kalpoes, Guido, Lorenao, the Gottenbos, Steve croes, Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Rob Smith, Jorge Pesquera, Bob Wit, Rick Smid, and others to the witness stand.

She will also be able to subpoena the financial files of legal bills of the Van der Sloots/Kalpoes as well as the financial files of AHATA, casino tapes, and all other kind of goodies.

This could be fun! Get them all into a U.S. court where they can use the Fifth Amendment in a civil suit. I think by the time a jury sees all the filth that has gone on down there they will end up awarding Greta the damages.
 
 
Let's don't forget the Strategic Task Force,  our angry ex-pats,
Renee and the "documentary", Posner, and the list goes on!
My personal favorites would be the Americans, because they are a disgrace to their homeland.  Sorry!  That just popped out. 

Wonder who would take the case for Aruba.............

It could be FRIEND vs FOE (GRETA VS. JOE)

[Jerry from Ohio]

  I am going to the GREEN HS in Green Ohio tonight the 17th if any one else is going to the talk please contact me it's free and I would like to meet any other SM in the area  Please G mail me if you'd like to introduce yourself   my address is
   aniceguyfromohio@gmail.com
  Jerry from Ohio :+)

"My Name is Natalee’s Mom"

Beth Holloway

Saturday, March 15, 2008

7:30 p.m.

Muscle Shoals High School Auditorium

Hear:

About the loss of her daughter
How her Faith sustains her each day
About the International Safe Travels Foundation
 

Beth has chosen to speak out about her experiences in the hopes of sparing other families from having to face the same loss.

$30 per ticket

Ticket Outlets:

 Muscle Shoals High School Office
 
 Valley Credit Union – Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, Tuscumbia, & Russellville
 
 Coldwater Books – Tuscumbia
 
 First Franklin Financial – Muscle Shoals & Florence
 

http://mshsbb.org/

*******


Holloway to visit Green Schools

GREEN — The Green Schools Foundation (GSF) will present Beth Holloway March 17 at 8 p.m. in the auditorium at Green High School.

Holloway will share the story of her daughter, Natalee, who disappeared in Aruba May 30, 2005, during a school-sponsored trip.

Holloway has established the International SAFE TRAVELS Foundation to advocate for victims’ rights and to help the millions of Americans who travel internationally plan and enjoy a safer trip. She has appeared on TV networks and in numerous magazine and newspaper articles, and was selected by Barbara Walters as one of the world’s most fascinating people for her perseverance in seeking answers to what happened to her daughter.

Holloway recently completed a nationwide tour promoting her book, “Loving Natalee.”

The presentation is free and open to the public.

http://www.akron.com/akron-ohio-community-news.asp?aID=1896

Thanks Klaas.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Janet
8:15 AM

[Tamikosmom]

Since there has been some discussion about the VDS ancestry, I was asked to post this by someone who has an interest in genealogy. They were all part of the land lawsuit in Boxtel that Paulus' family started.


{{edit - see link for names}}
 
http://www.echr.coe.int/ECHR/EN/Header/Case-Law/HUDOC/HUDOC+database/

Thanks...BT...nice to see you...That's a keeper...

Tamikosmom...I hope you had a wonderful weekend on beautiful Vancouver Island. We spent an Easter in Victoria, 24 years ago. Double-decker busses, crumpets and hot cross buns...

Mum ... thank you for asking.

Hubby, six year old grandaughter and I had a great weekend.  The weather could have been better.  You are right ... Victoria ... the capital of British Columbia ... as per her namesake ... is very British.

On Saturday fishing was were it was at for eldest son and hubby while DIL and I walked one of the many sea walls and then took the kids to the "Bugs' Zoo".  Along with handling many South American insects ... six year old grandaughter accepted the challenge and ... kissed a cockroach.  Mama  purchased Miss Muffet a T-Shirt that said "I KISSED A COCKROACH".  She insisted on wearing it to church on Sunday ... I let her.

 

I have learned to pick my battles.

Janet