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« Reply #600 on: March 17, 2008, 07:40:34 PM »

I do believe that Aruba should be focusing blame the decline in tourism on those closer to home.

Janet

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People thought Beth caused bad publicity for the island, but Beth is not at fault, it is the three suspects. If there's damage to the island it should be on the shoulders of the three suspects.

For some reason they don't blame PJK2 for anything and they even seem to protect them Janet. Just seems to me that the Perps and the Aruban Govt are all on the same team Sad  Hans Mos and AHATA seem to be leading the charge of blaming the American Media,the Family,the Fbi and even the Victims,anyone but the Pimps and the Failed Judge.
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« Reply #601 on: March 17, 2008, 07:41:24 PM »

The number of elderly persons grows explosively  

ORANJESTAD – At the end of 2007, the number of elderly persons in Aruba was 104.494.  That is 1035 more than in 2006.  The number of babies and pre-schoolers in Aruba dropped since 2000 from 7028 to 6352 last year; a decrease with 9.6 percent.  The number of sixty-plusses increased with 38.2 percent in that same period.  These figures are from the Demographic Quarterly report of the Central Bureau for Statistics (CBS).   

In the late nineties, when the number of newborn babies was dropping steadily, it increased again for the first time with 1239 in 2007, of which 152 from mothers younger than 19, which is exactly the same as in 2006, when the number was 1227. 

56 Percent of the babies born last year were from single mothers.  The number of people that died in Aruba last year was 521, a little less than in 2006, when 537 people died.   

In Aruba, 48 percent of the population is male and 52 female.  This is partly because the number of female immigrants exceeds the male ones; 51.9 percent is female.  2159 New immigrants were registered in 2007, 638 from Aruba and the Neth.Antilles, 465 from the Netherlands, and 839 from elsewhere.  143 People with the Dutch nationally but born in another country came to Aruba.

Last year, 1839 people emigrated, of which 68.8 percent to the Netherlands.  There were 1013 marriages in 2007; this was 1006 in 2006.  417 Divorces were registered in 2007, compared to 531 in 2006.

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« Reply #602 on: March 17, 2008, 07:42:36 PM »

I wonder who else may have gotten similar letters?  Perhaps some in Aruba?  Some in Holland?  Some in hiding?

I wonder how Dr. Phil is doing?  What is the status of the case in California?

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« Reply #603 on: March 17, 2008, 07:50:16 PM »

The number of sixty-plusses increased with 38.2 percent in that same period.

Yup they are getting more cheap older Americans and Dutch retiring and getting away from the winter. They also get a lot of time share owners and cheap ignorant Americans. Bottom line is these people aren't spending anywhere near what the Tourists did in 2005,who didn't use coupons with everything 
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« Reply #604 on: March 17, 2008, 07:54:38 PM »

I wonder who else may have gotten similar letters?  Perhaps some in Aruba?  Some in Holland?  Some in hiding?

I wonder how Dr. Phil is doing?  What is the status of the case in California?



The status is....The lawsuit is taking forever Sad Where are all the discovery requests that the Dr.Phil lawyers were granted?

2/21/08    Plaintiff   Notice of Continuance of Hearling (from Feb 29, 2008 to April 29, 2008)   

Future Hearings
(1) C/T 4/29/08 ON COURT'S OWN MOTIONM/P TO GIVE NOTICE.)

(2) 04/03/2008 at 08:30 am. Motion to Dismiss ((Second) and Request for Terminating Sanctions;)

(3) 04/29/2008 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Compel ((2) C/F 2/29/08)

(4) 05/06/2008 at 08:30 am. Conference-Case Management (2) MTN TO DISMISS3) MTN FOR SUBST. OF PERS. REP.FOR DECEASED DEFT4) MTN FOR STAY OF ORDER5) CASE MANAGEMENT CONF6) OSC RE FTA ON 12/7/07)
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« Reply #605 on: March 17, 2008, 08:00:52 PM »

I do believe that Aruba should be focusing blame the decline in tourism on those closer to home.

Janet

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Mansur:

People thought Beth caused bad publicity for the island, but Beth is not at fault, it is the three suspects. If there's damage to the island it should be on the shoulders of the three suspects.

For some reason they don't blame PJK2 for anything and they even seem to protect them Janet. Just seems to me that the Perps and the Aruban Govt are all on the same team Sad  Hans Mos and AHATA seem to be leading the charge of blaming the American Media,the Family,the Fbi and even the Victims,anyone but the Pimps and the Failed Judge.

I have to wonder how many incidents brought JVDS to the attention of authorities prior to his eighteenth birthday?  I've only seen hints at some things, but I know little about who handled the cases, who made the decisions, and if he received special considerations.

I have to wonder if others in his circle of friends received considerations that were not the norm?  At what point does he become just an average citizen?

Who do the police protect on Aruba? 

Who decides?  Prosecutors and judges? 

Who advocates for the tourists?

What happens when the next missing tourist is a young British girl?
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« Reply #606 on: March 17, 2008, 08:01:30 PM »

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Palus and his oldest (at least) spawn came from hell.  jackb
Also Joran and Palus are throwbacks from FREEK Vds.  J/b


lol,I saw that Jack B and thought that name fit them both perfectly.
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« Reply #607 on: March 17, 2008, 08:05:24 PM »

Hmm..Looks like a hit and run accident involving Hendrick Croes?  I believe this is Hans Mos in the picture.



police owing to detene hendrik croes last
monday, 17 march 2008
   
Oranjestad (aan): cos all owing to cuminsa during the parade of sindicatonan in accion hour cu at one given instant advocate of government, mr. Hendrik croes stop was in the file of autonan protesting. Police cu was diverting the traffic was send some car in one direccion y direccion others in one another. Look like cu at one given instant advocate croes owing to arrive at file and not owing to stay satisfaction cu direccion in which the agent of the law owing to order for bay. Here the advocate opts for follow owing to send the car in direccion of the agent police cu was dirigiendo trafico. Alas not the police owing to succeed sufficient lihe wing and the car owing to dale. Given instant at the police owing to cay abao and wanta owing to stay at the car. In his attempt for the police stop the car owing to open the door of car of hendrik croes and owing to go back order for her stop. Sinembargo owing to the advocate opts for follow on one core rate high bay and let the police injury behind. Of the police after esey owing to hospitaal at bay where cu past owing to worde someti at medical treatment, including photograph and draws ricibi needle for pain. Past owing to tell the daily paper cu can not compronde he can con owing to dal'e cu car and follow core bay. "Is one in the bunch are you strike on caya and follow core bay," so the police agent the.m. Owing to tell we combersacion in one. "Mi delivery owing to one official complaint of attempt of asesinato or attempt of severe mistreatment at my persona," the police owing to comment.

All the time at airports hendrik croes was cla lever for plane for colombia at where the bay will have to owing to follow for chile at where the will have to lever owing to one crusero for bay happen some day of vacacion cu his family. Past owing to come here come across cu polisnan cu owing to pidie for actonan give account of his first cu the bandona aruba. The process of interogacion did take more time of thing owing to wait for the result cu cu owing to the plane avianca bay lage.

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« Reply #608 on: March 17, 2008, 08:06:01 PM »

Am I crazy or does this image look like joran with a green shirt and green hat on?
Dang,can't post it but it image #4,near the very top of the image.Also,did you notice Steve Croes DJ'ing on the Tatoo boat in the link you sent earlier?


I'm fairly certain those are pictures of the protest and I doubt Joran would be there, LOL.  In any case, this is the person you were thinking looked like him.  He does resemble Joran a bit.


LOL...that would be just like joran to try and insert himself in a protest on aruba.Scarey though how much that looks like him.Thanks for snatching it Klaas.
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The only thing Joran would protest is not getting his daily dose of dope, or porn.  This boy looks to have a soul.  Joran lost his in the ditch.   Jackb
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« Reply #609 on: March 17, 2008, 08:19:17 PM »

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.
 


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Monkey? as in one of us?

Maybe as"...monkey chases the weasel."


Old...old children's sing-song rhyme thingie...

*Ring around the mullberry bush...the monkey chased the weasel...the monkey stopped to pull up his sock...POP goes the weasel*...IIRC...
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« Reply #610 on: March 17, 2008, 08:37:33 PM »

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.
 


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Monkey? as in one of us?

Maybe as"...monkey chases the weasel."


Old...old children's sing-song rhyme thingie...

*Ring around the mullberry bush...the monkey chased the weasel...the monkey stopped to pull up his sock...POP goes the weasel*...IIRC...

I can't believe it!!!  I remember that song!

Perhaps you will remember this one as well.  How sad...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080317/ap_en_mu/spain_abba_drummer

Oh, my apologies!

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« Reply #611 on: March 17, 2008, 08:38:24 PM »

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.
 


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Monkey? as in one of us?

Maybe as"...monkey chases the weasel."


Old...old children's sing-song rhyme thingie...

*Ring around the mullberry bush...the monkey chased the weasel...the monkey stopped to pull up his sock...POP goes the weasel*...IIRC...

Shango, the monkey?
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« Reply #612 on: March 17, 2008, 08:41:30 PM »

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.
 


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Monkey? as in one of us?

Maybe as"...monkey chases the weasel."


Old...old children's sing-song rhyme thingie...

*Ring around the mullberry bush...the monkey chased the weasel...the monkey stopped to pull up his sock...POP goes the weasel*...IIRC...

Shango, the monkey?

I can neither confirm or deny the answer to your question.
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« Reply #613 on: March 17, 2008, 09:05:47 PM »

Family Search, the Mormon database, has hundreds of Ditches listed.  We'd have no way to figure out who Paulass and Urine belong to without more information.  I wonder if our Dutch posters could poke around for us.  Paulass had to come from somewhere.   

Yes, the Mormons have a great database. Info only good as those who submit lineage, or those two guys on the bikes have time to find. There are others.

Perhaps, to find more fruit, one might need to seek another family tree.

Maybe shake the tree of a retired ex-polis and see what kinda flavour falls out.

Who knows...it may lead to the fifth and a monkey.
 


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Monkey? as in one of us?

Maybe as"...monkey chases the weasel."


Old...old children's sing-song rhyme thingie...

*Ring around the mullberry bush...the monkey chased the weasel...the monkey stopped to pull up his sock...POP goes the weasel*...IIRC...

Shango, the monkey?

I can neither confirm or deny the answer to your question.

Dayum!  Who'd I piss off?????
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« Reply #614 on: March 17, 2008, 09:14:32 PM »

You didn't piss me off Sweet Pea...I was born pissed Wink
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« Reply #615 on: March 17, 2008, 09:32:26 PM »

You didn't piss me off Sweet Pea...I was born pissed Wink

Thanks!

Like my Dad always used to say....

It's better to be pissed off than pissed on.
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« Reply #616 on: March 17, 2008, 09:40:09 PM »


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« Reply #617 on: March 17, 2008, 09:52:07 PM »




Right backacha *******!...passes out *green* beer to everyone....now for your entertainmet...presenting....MONKEY RIVER DANCE!!!


 
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« Reply #618 on: March 17, 2008, 09:53:34 PM »

Thanks *******! Happy St Patrick's Day Everyone! 
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« Reply #619 on: March 17, 2008, 10:02:43 PM »

I'm chiming in as well with Good Wishes for all on St. Pat's Day! 

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