Natalee Case Discussion #743 3/14 - 3/19/08

[Jerry from Ohio]

  DUH !!  Gees Destiny  I don't see no River   
   Jerry from Ohio   

Right backacha *******!...passes out *green* beer to everyone....now for your entertainmet...presenting....MONKEY RIVER DANCE!!!


 

[Jerry from Ohio]

 Good Irish wishes to you also sweet CBB >     

I'm chiming in as well with Good Wishes for all on St. Pat's Day! 

[Destiny]

  DUH !!  Gees Destiny  I don't see no River   
   Jerry from Ohio   

SMARTAZZ....dancing an Irish Jig around Jerry...LOL!!!!!

 

[texasmom]

Perhaps you will remember this one as well.  How sad...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080317/ap_en_mu/spain_abba_drummer

Oh, my apologies!

{tips hat to all ladies}

Hey ya'll!

Hey gunslinger!   
yes...I remember Abba very well....dancing queen...young and sweet..only seventeen...
That is very sad, how he died.

[texasmom]

You didn't piss me off Sweet Pea...I was born pissed

Thanks!

Like my Dad always used to say....

It's better to be pissed off than pissed on.

[crazybabyborg]

Jerry, I left you a message in Musings! 

I suppose there's nothing new in Natalee's Case today? I need to catch up!

[texasmom]

  Happy St. Patrick's Day! To all of you too! 

[Observer]

Mother of missing student Natalee Holloway speaks to northeast Ohio students today


   
 Kim Wendel 
Created: 3/17/2008 9:28:32 AM
Updated:3/17/2008 10:00:51 AM

GREEN, Ohio -- The mother of an Alabama girl who disappeared three years ago while on vacation in Aruba will speak at the Green school district, south of Akron. talk about spring-break safety tonight in northeast Ohio.
Beth Holloway's daughter, Natalee Holloway, disappeared in May, 2005 while on spring break in Aruba.

The girl's mother has become an advocate for victims' rights and promotes safety for international travelers.

Her daughter's disappearance remains unsolved.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=85239

[Observer]

Momma: Taped Confession Means Natalee Could Have Been Saved
March 18th, 2008 by Jefrey Teaser

Natalee Holloway power still be live if Joran garde der Sloot held called for help or else of allegedly dumping her unconscious body into the Caribbean, the teen’s mother, Beth Twitty, stated the New York Post.

Vanguard der Sloot, 20, uncoverred in a concealed camera “confession” that Holloway held passed out after they held sex on a beach in Aruba on the nighttime the Alabama teen vanished. Van five hundred Sloot then allegedly asked one of his allies to aid him in tossing her body exploitation his boat and push her out to ocean.

Despite the concealed camera conversation, van five hundred Sloot’s New York-based lawyer, Joe Tacopina, stated the Post the info on tape was non a confession.

Aruba’s top prosecuting attorney, however, expressed that if avant der Sloot existed to be conveyed to run again, the tape recording could be exploited as evidence.

New wave der Sloot continued to refuse any involution in Holloway’s expiry.

http://world.hotnews1.com/momma-taped-confession-means-natalee-could-have-been-saved

[Bladerunner]

Hey, by the way, anyone here any news from those 20 crack detectives Mos has set loose on this case?

What a frggin joke!

 

[Observer]

Easter Video 1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uQYrM4yluGA
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Not much of a Easter Video But Jug tells it exactly how it is.

[jackb]

Hey, by the way, anyone here any news from those 20 crack detectives Mos has set loose on this case?

What a frggin joke!

 

Probably went to C&C to have a beer and wait.  jackb

[SS]

Is it really necessary to put names of familymembers on the Internet.

I understand what you are saying but the names are already on the internet.  I can delete the names and leave the link.

Klaas,

The genealogy information and van der Sloot names which have been given are over 200 years old.  The names were obtained from a van der Sloot relative who had posted them on the Internet, thus making the genealogy information public.  Documents in excess of 75 years, which include census pages and government documents, are public information.

[Observer]

ATV caught off guard... again!
 
TV hostess caught live on tape when she had to be corrected that their plan to have an innocent man put in jail for political reasons by giving false statements to justice was set free and that now justice might go after those who made those false accusations

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TH5w6yaGc1Y

[caesu]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_40685.php

now i am reading about this former MOJ Hendrik Croes arrested for a hit and run.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/article514116.ece/Oud-minister_Aruba_vast_om_aanrijden_agent
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3578572/_Rel_rond_oud-minister_Aruba__.html

i still don't have this MOJ and Croes family history clear.

Hendrik Croes is a brother of Betico Croes and a nephew of Rudy Croes. all are MEP.
but not directly related to Tico Croes (AVP).

i thought Rudy Croes was always the MOJ when the MEP was in power.
apparently not.
but Rudy Croes was MOJ before 1995. or my source is wrong and that has to be Hendrik Croes.
that would explain some dark stuff i had about Rudy.
there is a lot of dark stuff about Hendrik Croes. links with italian mafia alleged.
the dutch didn't want Hendrik croes as MOJ so the MEP went for Rudy.
not that the dutch have anything to say about that officially... but maybe there was a deal concerning financial aid or loans or debt relief.

so difficult to get information about this. just a biography on Rudy Croes i want.
i tried to contact Aruba. was brought in contact with cabinet secretary Peter Davidse but they keep me in the dark.
they want to know why i want to know things - but i don't see why that's relevant i tell them.

but anyway it is very messy.

Hendrik Croes drove into that striking police man. then he went to the airport to go on holiday.
but then richardson went to the airport to get a statement from him and he decided not to travel.

police union got angry why he wasn't arrested.
and now the got him arrested and put him in KIA.
who is in control there?

Mos is mad now. and Peter de Witte (head of police - is he dutch??) is mad too.

Mos: "everybody should keep their heads cool, else it will be a disaster for Aruba.  it is very bad to have police unions demand arrests and threaten strike. only the OM decides who gets arrested".


OMG. knowing how Rudy Croes works he must be very much involved in this prosecutions / investigation of his nephew Hendrik Croes. i also read he is a brother of Rudy Croes. but i read more that he is a nephew of Rudy and a brother of Betico Croes - the founding father of Aruba.

[SS]

I am on my way out but, I was reading the Mathew's case at the European Court site that BT posted.  It talked about earlier Judicial rulings being sent to the Minister of Justice.  Does anyone know:

Do the judges in the Caribbean Court only recommend rulings to the Minister and he has the final say....or do the judges rulings stand on their own??

As far as the Van derSloot family issue....there was a time that we had pretty good confirmation that there were three VanderSloot tickets purchased on KLM from Holland, the Wednesday after Natalee disappeared.  If the two younger Sloots were not on board, then I believe looking at other Sloots would be warranted.  Not sure why you'd bring big guns to island when you're so sure your kid only dropped a girl at the HI (stated belief at the time).  I would like to know who the big family gun is...if there is one....or two.

TIA

I'll check later.

I once read that Paulass has three brothers.  One named Ko is a professor/scientist at the university in Tilburg, one is named Hans, and one is named Marcos.  Marcos supposedly has an influential government position in the Netherlands.

[klaasend]

Is it really necessary to put names of familymembers on the Internet.

I understand what you are saying but the names are already on the internet.  I can delete the names and leave the link.

Klaas,

The genealogy information and van der Sloot names which have been given are over 200 years old.  The names were obtained from a van der Sloot relative who had posted them on the Internet, thus making the genealogy information public.  Documents in excess of 75 years, which include census pages and government documents, are public information.

Hi SS

There were two different links posted.  One was the genealogy information with the ancestors and the other was a court case in the NL with current living Sloot's.  It was the court case link that they objected to.  I deleted the actual names from the post but I left the link to those names.

[Observer]

Your the man Caesu! He drove into a man with his car and then fled the scene and went to Colombia on Vacation..Just lovely,and no one is above the law in Aruba? 
I think Kendrink,Rudy and Hendrick are all brothers. Hendrick was the MOJ before Rudy and Rudy is on record demanding if he isn't the MOJ then Hendrick should be.

[Observer]

Rudy, magnanimous guy that he is, has let it be known that he is willing to settle for the Ministry of Tourism, on the condition that his brother, Hendrik Croes, becomes Minister of Justice.

Hendrik Croes.

Excuse me while I have a good laugh.

See, if there is one corrupt person on this island, it's Hendrik Croes. The Netherlands is never going to accept Hendrik Croes. The thing is, that Rudy Croes surely must be savvy enough to know this, so I'm wondering if he's forcing a showdown between MEP and the rest of the people who are loyal to MEP because of Betico Croes (founder and revered late leader of MEP). As Nel said: 11 (majority) - 1 (Rudy?) = 0 (no majority)

http://arubagirl.typepad.com/lost_in_smallness/2005/10/index.html

[Observer]

Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied.