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« Reply #360 on: June 06, 2008, 11:04:16 PM »

#8 is scary!!! 

The Black Value System of Barack and Michelle Obama

By Nancy Matthis  |  Friday, June 6th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Twenty-seven years ago, Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System. This is the moral compass for Barack and Michelle Obama, who repeatedly praised this church as their source of comfort and guidance, and raised their children in its theology. What comes through loud and clear is that this congregation, including the Obamas, subscribes not to the American value system, but to this “black value system.”

Some of the goals, such as the pursuit of education and the pursuit of excellence, are laudable. But the underlying premise is an “us versus them” mentality. The entire motivation is to benefit what is perceived as a separate “Black Community” rather than the American society as a whole. Note in particular the egregious “victimhood” expressed in #8. This stridently apartheid attitude is entirely congruent with that articulated by Michelle in her senior thesis.

Does this express what should be the primary goal of the president of the United States?

To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom.

A president should be devoted FIRST to the general welfare of all Americans.

Every thinking American should read this carefully. To the extent that black individuals subscribe to these concepts, we do have a race problem. And over and over again, we have proof that this represents the world view of the Obamas, which would render them seriously unfit to be the president and first lady of our country. From Trinity United Church of Christ:


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Please go to this link to see  #8 and the rest of the facts..   The bulleted numbers, wouldn't copy for me.

http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=1743#comment-5843


Hi Dihannah

When the foundation of "Black Liberation Theology" is comprehended ... #8 is not at all surprising.

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The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology
April 2, 2008


While Black Liberation Theology is not main stream in most black churches, many pastors in Wright's generation are burdened by (James) Cone's categories which laid the foundation for many to embrace Marxism and a distorted self-image of the perpetual "victim."

... In FOR MY PEOPLE, Cone explains that "the Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see how things really are."

More:
http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php

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Obama Explains Why He Quit Church
June 01, 2008 4:54 AM


ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., held a long press availability in Aberdeen, South Dakota Saturday night to discuss his resignation from Trinity United church.

"Michelle and I told Rev Otis Moss that we were withdrawing as members of Trinity. It's a decision that Michelle and I had discussed for quite some time after the National Press Club episode. I had discussed it with Rev. Moss. We had prayed on it. We had consulted with a number of friends and family members who are also connected to the church. And so this is not decision I come to lightly, and frankly it is one that I make with some sadness," Obama said in prepared remarks.

Obama praised the current pastor of Trinity, Rev. Moss and said that he continues to admire the work that Rev. Jeremiah Wright did in building up the church.

He insisted that Trinity itself is not a church worth denouncing. "I'm not denouncing the church and I'm not interested in people who want me to denounce the church, because it's not a church worthy of denouncing

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/
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« Reply #361 on: June 06, 2008, 11:49:04 PM »

Obama Sought Endorsement of Marxist Third Party in 1996
May 29, 2008


By Warner Todd Huston

Here is some interesting as well as character confirming info about one of Barack Obama’s former runs for office. Apparently, Obama actively sought and received the stamp of approval of a Marxist third party that operated briefly in Chicago between 1992 and 1998. The group was called the “New Party” and was started in 1992 by Daniel Cantor (a former staffer for Jesse Jackson’s 1988 presidential campaign) and Joel Rogers (a sociology and law professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison).

The New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials — most often Democrats. The New Party’s short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.

Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party’s Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.

The New Party’s modus operandi included the political strategy of “electoral fusion,” where it would nominate, for various political offices, candidates from other parties (usually Democrats), thereby enabling each of those candidates to occupy more than one ballot line in the voting booth. By so doing, the New Party often was able to influence candidates’ platforms. (Fusion of this type is permitted in seven states — Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, South Carolina, and Vermont — but is common only in New York.)

Though Illinois was not one of the states that permitted electoral fusion, in 1995 Barack Obama nonetheless sought the New Party’s endorsement for his 1996 state senate run. He was successful in obtaining that endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

In 1996, three of the four candidates endorsed by the New Party won their electoral primaries. The three victors included Barack Obama (in the 13th State Senate District), Danny Davis (in the 7th Congressional District), and Patricia Martin, who won the race for Judge in the 7th Subcircuit Court. All four candidates attended an April 11, 1996 New Party membership meeting to express their gratitude for the party’s support.

The New Party’s various chapters similarly helped to elect dozens of other political candidates in a host of American cities.

One of the more notable New Party members was Carl Davidson, a Chicago-based Marxist who became a political supporter of Barack Obama in the mid-1990s.

In 1997 the New Party’s influence declined precipitously after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that electoral fusion was not protected by the First Amendment’s freedom of association clause. By 1998 the party was essentially defunct. Daniel Canto and other key party members went on to establish a new organization with similar ideals, the Working Families Party of New York.

This news pretty much confirms that Barack Obama is at the very least a neo-Marxist and also confirms the claim that he is one of the most far left leaning Senators we have in office today.

This man is no “new” politician, no “centrist,” and not interested in ever “reaching across the aisle.” This whole “new way” line of bunkum is all smoke a mirrors.

http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/2008/05/29/obama-sought-endorsement-of-marxist-third-party-in-1996/
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« Reply #362 on: June 07, 2008, 12:12:10 AM »

Janet,  I just don't get it.  How much info. do we need to provide to get people to see who Obama really is?  Hannity said it well tonight.  (paraphrasing) The mass Obama supporters are in a trance. They only hear what he says, almost as an idol, rather than viewing the facts and consequences.  (again a sign of the anti-christ) I'm just stunned!

People accuse us of only showing what we want to portray in our favor, but what about the plethora of info. we've been providing?  Even the info. others provide against McCain, doesn't compare to the radical left and racism of Obama.  Hopefully, when the debates really begin in the fall, when more people really begin to pay attention, they will get it.  They say even alot of Hillary supporters will turn to McCain, rather than vote for Obama.  I can only pray!
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« Reply #363 on: June 07, 2008, 06:51:05 AM »

    Well, Di, here goes ......http://youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide 

Take a listen folks........Not my prediction, but one from the Black Community of Harlem!!!!!                             

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« Reply #364 on: June 07, 2008, 07:14:28 AM »

I want to congratulate all American voters on their ability to see beyond race. Now we know race is NOT the issue.




   Correction::::::    That was not, BY A LONG SHOT,ALL American voters, that was a majority of Democrats, a little more than half of the "liberal, illiterate, party.....Don't forget there is another Party,....the Republican!!!  AND, do you think every one of the Dumb Dems, who have been behind Hillary, will cast their vote in Nov. for Barrak Hussein Obama????   I kind of think NOT!!!   OMG!!  I can't believe ALL Dems are that stupid, misinformed or "stuck in a one party system"!!

why you call him Barack Hussein Obama?
why not call McCain then John Sidney McCain?

or are you really that misinformed that you think or want others to think he is a muslim.



    Why did we say John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Dwight David Eisenhower, Richard Milhouse Nixon,  Lyndon Baines Johnson,  (to name a few)
       1. Are you ashamed he has such a Muslim name!!
     
        2.  Are you trying to further hide his deep Muslim, anti-American affliations???
   * Frankly, his last name Obama, is scary enough!!!

   And while I am asking questions, why are you, supposedly a Dutch citizen, so involved in American Politics?  Are you really Dutch or do you reside there, but are you a Muslim Terrorist, as so many of those living in the Netherlands and England now are?  Pissed off due to your foiled attacks on those countries, American Airlines, and further bombings in London Tubes!!!!
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« Reply #365 on: June 07, 2008, 07:29:08 AM »

I want to congratulate all American voters on their ability to see beyond race. Now we know race is NOT the issue.




   Correction::::::    That was not, BY A LONG SHOT,ALL American voters, that was a majority of Democrats, a little more than half of the "liberal, illiterate, party.....Don't forget there is another Party,....the Republican!!!  AND, do you think every one of the Dumb Dems, who have been behind Hillary, will cast their vote in Nov. for Barrak Hussein Obama????   I kind of think NOT!!!   OMG!!  I can't believe ALL Dems are that stupid, misinformed or "stuck in a one party system"!!

why you call him Barack Hussein Obama?
why not call McCain then John Sidney McCain?

or are you really that misinformed that you think or want others to think he is a muslim.



    Why did we say John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Dwight David Eisenhower, Richard Milhouse Nixon,  Lyndon Baines Johnson,  (to name a few)
       1. Are you ashamed he has such a Muslim name!!
     
        2.  Are you trying to further hide his deep Muslim, anti-American affliations???
   * Frankly, his last name Obama, is scary enough!!!

   And while I am asking questions, why are you, supposedly a Dutch citizen, so involved in American Politics?  Are you really Dutch or do you reside there, but are you a Muslim Terrorist, as so many of those living in the Netherlands and England now are?  Pissed off due to your foiled attacks on those countries, American Airlines, and further bombings in London Tubes!!!!

you are hilarious. 
you must be so scared all day round.
please adjust you medicines.
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« Reply #366 on: June 07, 2008, 08:34:33 AM »

    Fool, I'm not on meds and I'm not scared all day long, but I am scared...you'd be too if you were in Lower Manhattan on 9/11 and watched the planes go into the Towers....watched the horrendous flames, the poor souls choosing to jump from 90th and above floor windows to their deaths rather than burn to death, smell the so awful smell, lingering for days, so  that it was necessary to wear surgical masks to walk around Brooklyn Heights.    Keep laughing, I know who you are....one of the idiots we saw on T.V. celebrating the attack on America!!!
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« Reply #367 on: June 07, 2008, 08:37:23 AM »

    Why do you evade my questions with moronic posts????

   Why did we say John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Dwight David Eisenhower, Richard Milhouse Nixon,  Lyndon Baines Johnson,  (to name a few)
       1. Are you ashamed he has such a Muslim name!!
     
        2.  Are you trying to further hide his deep Muslim, anti-American affliations???
   * Frankly, his last name Obama, is scary enough!!!

   And while I am asking questions, why are you, supposedly a Dutch citizen, so involved in American Politics?  Are you really Dutch or do you reside there, but are you a Muslim Terrorist, as so many of those living in the Netherlands and England now are?  Pissed off due to your foiled attacks on those countries, American Airlines, and further bombings in London Tubes!!!!
 
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« Reply #368 on: June 07, 2008, 09:05:24 AM »

good job! you are on to something!

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« Reply #369 on: June 07, 2008, 09:08:59 AM »

   GOOD ANSWER, caesu!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #370 on: June 07, 2008, 10:47:34 AM »

Considering Barack Obama's past vindication of the Palestinian cause ...  I contend that Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri, Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef and ... Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat should not dispair.  Jeremiah Wright is not worried ... he has it all figured out.

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Hamas Un-'Endorses' Obama
June 04, 2008 9:37 PM


Sen. Barack Obama's speech to AIPAC has convinced Hamas that he and Sen. John McCain are interchangeable. If the group had its druthers, neither one would win.

"Obama’s comments have confirmed that there will be no change in the U.S. administration’s foreign policy on the Arab-Israeli conflict," Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters in Gaza.

"The Democratic and Republican parties support totally the Israeli occupation at the expense of the interests and rights of Arabs and Palestinians," he said. "Hamas does not differentiate between the two presidential candidates, Obama and McCain, because their policies regarding the Arab-Israel conflict are the same and are hostile to us, therefore we do have no preference and are not wishing for either of them to win."

Hamas had never actually endorsed Obama. In April, Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef told WABC radio that "we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will [win] the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance."

The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., at the time characterized this as an endorsement, and made hay out of the kind words.

But today it wasn't just the terrorists of Hamas expressing chagrin at Obama's speech.

Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas took issue with Obama's assertion that Jerusalem would remain the "undivided" capital of Israel.

"We reject these words," Abbas said. "Jerusalem is one of the files under negotiation. The entire world knows perfectly well that we will never accept a state without Jerusalem. That should be clear."

And Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said that Obama's "remarks on Jerusalem cast doubt over the chances of peace...We reject the positions of Barack Obama because they are in contradiction with the traditional positions of the United States which considers that east Jerusalem is under occupation."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/hamas-un-endors.html


Transcript: Rev. Jeremiah Wright speech to National Press Club
April 28, 2008


REV. WRIGHT: … We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected. Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability …

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-wrighttranscript-04282008,0,3593201.story?page=6
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« Reply #371 on: June 07, 2008, 11:08:17 AM »

Auntiem

caesu is not an Islamic apologist ... she recognizes the implications of the appeasement policies of the Dutch government in regards to Islam/Muslims.  Please scan the "FITNA" PRODUCER: GEERT WILDERS - DUTCH POLITICIAN" thread.

caesu is one with Monkeys in regards to the issues encompassing the Natalee Holloway case and ... her translations are a Godsend.

However ... the parting of ways ... caesu upholds Barack Obama.  I have worked so hard in my attempt to support my stand that Obama is a "wolf in sheep's clothing" but ... to no avail.

In caesu's defence ... she is far from alone.  More than 50% of the Democratic Party share her firm position.  The proof ... Obama is now leader of the Party.

At this moment in time ... many of Clinton supporters claim that in the November election they will cast their votes for McCain if Obama's name appears on the ballot but ... I tend to think that Party allegience will win out and ... Barack Obama will become the next President of the United States.

Auntiem ... it is my worst nightmare but ...

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« Reply #372 on: June 07, 2008, 11:21:41 AM »

Janet,  I just don't get it.  How much info. do we need to provide to get people to see who Obama really is?  Hannity said it well tonight.  (paraphrasing) The mass Obama supporters are in a trance. They only hear what he says, almost as an idol, rather than viewing the facts and consequences.  (again a sign of the anti-christ) I'm just stunned!

People accuse us of only showing what we want to portray in our favor, but what about the plethora of info. we've been providing?
  Even the info. others provide against McCain, doesn't compare to the radical left and racism of Obama.  Hopefully, when the debates really begin in the fall, when more people really begin to pay attention, they will get it.  They say even alot of Hillary supporters will turn to McCain, rather than vote for Obama.  I can only pray!

Di ... Barack Obama said it all in the following quote and ... I agree 100%.

Janet

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Obama: ‘I’m a Pretty Darned Good Politician’
by FOXNews.com
Wednesday, April 16, 2008


... I’m a pretty darn good politician. And I can give a pretty good speech and I can connect and inspire the American people in ways that I think will become apparent.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/16/obama-im-a-pretty-darned-good-politician/


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For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones.
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« Reply #373 on: June 07, 2008, 12:05:48 PM »

    Fool, I'm not on meds and I'm not scared all day long, but I am scared...you'd be too if you were in Lower Manhattan on 9/11 and watched the planes go into the Towers....watched the horrendous flames, the poor souls choosing to jump from 90th and above floor windows to their deaths rather than burn to death, smell the so awful smell, lingering for days, so  that it was necessary to wear surgical masks to walk around Brooklyn Heights.    Keep laughing, I know who you are....one of the idiots we saw on T.V. celebrating the attack on America!!!

Wow, Auntie, you were there?  How horrifying for anybody who was subjected to such  terror!  I'm sorry  you had to experience that!

I strongly believe you are wrong about CAESU,  I think she, as well as the rest of the world has a big interest in our politics, as it does and will have some sort of impact on the rest of the world.  Though she shares a different view than some of us, doesn't make her a muslim or terrorist, just a showing a genuine interest and her views, whether we agree or not.  Look how many Americans may be putting him in office!   It doesn't mean they are all muslim, just ignorant and naive or a different agenda.
With that said, I do understand your passion and skepticism of others, maybe even more for people in other countries, but I don't think CAESU deserves being attacked for unfounded accusations.  We do all love you though!

You just keep helping us educate people of who/what Obama stands for!  That's all we can do and pray it works!
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« Reply #374 on: June 07, 2008, 02:10:39 PM »

I believe that any organizational/church endorsement (official or not) for a candidate implies that the candidate of choice most closely upholds the position on the issues which the members of that organization embrace.

The candidates who the late Jerry Falwell endorsed ... most closely upheld the positions on the issues which members the Moral Majority or Thomas Road Baptist embrace and ... the media made the most of this knowledge.

It only stands to reason that the endorsing of Barack Obama by a spokesperson of an organization/church implies Obama is the candidate who most closely represents the position on the issues which the members of that organization/church embrace.

In other words ... I believe that there is nothing wrong with an organization/church endorsing a candidate on behalf of its members as long as ... the ideology represented by that organization/church  is not hidden.

Janet

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Black Pastors Choose Words Carefully While Supporting Obama
by Associated Press
Saturday, June 7, 2008


Some pastors at the Hampton conference wouldn’t talk publicly about politics, fearful of hurting their church.

Some criticized media coverage they say focused on black ministers doing something white ministers have done for years.

Michael Battle, president of the Interdenominational Theological Center in Atlanta, pointed to ministers like Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell and Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson.

“For a long time those preachers have been very, very engaged in this effort to get people to register and to vote for the candidate of their choice — so it is not new to the black church, nor is it new to the white church, to encourage participation in the democracy,” Battle said.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/07/black-pastors-choose-words-carefully-while-supporting-obama/

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1.  ENDORSEMENTS FOR BARACK OBAMA'S

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA (DSA) - CHICAGO BRANCH

Thursday, February 14, 2008
Change Obama can believe in: Socialism?
By Cliff Kincaid


Campaign workers for Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama are under fire for displaying a flag featuring communist hero Che Guevara.

But Obama has his own controversial connections. He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based socialist group with ties to the Socialist International, access to millions of labor union dollars and connections to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler.

Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ss_politics_02_14.asp


DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA (DSA)
The Organization

We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo.

We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships.

http://www.dsausa.org/about/index.html
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« Reply #376 on: June 07, 2008, 02:47:06 PM »

Auntiem

caesu is not an Islamic apologist ... she recognizes the implications of the appeasement policies of the Dutch government in regards to Islam/Muslims.  Please scan the "FITNA" PRODUCER: GEERT WILDERS - DUTCH POLITICIAN" thread.

caesu is one with Monkeys in regards to the issues encompassing the Natalee Holloway case and ... her translations are a Godsend.

However ... the parting of ways ... caesu upholds Barack Obama.  I have worked so hard in my attempt to support my stand that Obama is a "wolf in sheep's clothing" but ... to no avail.

In caesu's defence ... she is far from alone.  More than 50% of the Democratic Party share her firm position.  The proof ... Obama is now leader of the Party.

At this moment in time ... many of Clinton supporters claim that in the November election they will cast their votes for McCain if Obama's name appears on the ballot but ... I tend to think that Party allegience will win out and ... Barack Obama will become the next President of the United States.

Auntiem ... it is my worst nightmare but ...

Janet


i see the dangers the islamist ideology.
but i think the current goverment helped the islamist a great deal.

now the USA is spending their treasure and blood to keep islamist goverments in Iraq and Afghanistan in power.
these are islamist countries, with lawbooks based on Sharia.
of course Saddam was an evil dictator - but Iraq then was not an islamist country.
Iran, another islamist power is now the major power in the region.
the USA removed their arc-enemy Saddam.
Iran is openly sponsering Hamas and Hezbollah.

compared to Hezbollah, Al-Qaida is like the boys scouts.
Hezbollah is a very dangerous organistation.
the USA supported the Lebanese Siniora government.

but the West did nothing when Hezbollah staged a military coup last month.
now, Hezbollah is a approved militia in Lebanon - has the same status as the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps.

so Bush Middle East policy is a huge mess. did much more harm than good.
and Bin Laden is still broadcasting his videos from his cave.

as for Obama. he wants to pull the troops out. he isn't going to keep that Islamist puppet regime any longer in power.
this has cost enough treasure and blood.

also Obama has plans to make the country more oil independent.
because now, everytime you full up your tank (of your SUV?), that money goes to Saudi-Arabia or Iran.
they send it straight to Hamas/Hezbollah or groups planting IED's and such in Iraq.






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2.  ENDORSEMENTS FOR BARACK OBAMA

PASTOR JEREMIAH WRIGHT'S WORDS AND THE AFFIRMATION OF MEMBERS TUCC


Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk

Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo


Obama Explains Why He Quit Church
June 01, 2008 4:54 AM


ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., held a long press availability in Aberdeen, South Dakota Saturday night to discuss his resignation from Trinity United church.

"Michelle and I told Rev Otis Moss that we were withdrawing as members of Trinity. It's a decision that Michelle and I had discussed for quite some time after the National Press Club episode. I had discussed it with Rev. Moss. We had prayed on it. We had consulted with a number of friends and family members who are also connected to the church. And so this is not decision I come to lightly, and frankly it is one that I make with some sadness," Obama said in prepared remarks.

Obama praised the current pastor of Trinity, Rev. Moss and said that he continues to admire the work that Rev. Jeremiah Wright did in building up the church.

He insisted that Trinity itself is not a church worth denouncing. "I'm not denouncing the church and I'm not interested in people who want me to denounce the church, because it's not a church worthy of denouncing

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/
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« Reply #378 on: June 07, 2008, 03:10:57 PM »

Auntiem

caesu is not an Islamic apologist ... she recognizes the implications of the appeasement policies of the Dutch government in regards to Islam/Muslims.  Please scan the "FITNA" PRODUCER: GEERT WILDERS - DUTCH POLITICIAN" thread.

caesu is one with Monkeys in regards to the issues encompassing the Natalee Holloway case and ... her translations are a Godsend.

However ... the parting of ways ... caesu upholds Barack Obama.  I have worked so hard in my attempt to support my stand that Obama is a "wolf in sheep's clothing" but ... to no avail.

In caesu's defence ... she is far from alone.  More than 50% of the Democratic Party share her firm position.  The proof ... Obama is now leader of the Party.

At this moment in time ... many of Clinton supporters claim that in the November election they will cast their votes for McCain if Obama's name appears on the ballot but ... I tend to think that Party allegience will win out and ... Barack Obama will become the next President of the United States.

Auntiem ... it is my worst nightmare but ...

Janet


i see the dangers the islamist ideology.
but i think the current goverment helped the islamist a great deal.


caesu

I agree.  However ... my choice of a candidate is one whose  position on the issues "most closely" aligns with my ideology and ... therefore a right of center candidate will have my support in local, Provincial and National elections in Canada.

The appeasement of Islam and ... the "illegal" immigration issues are issues which I believe are the greatest threats to the security of the United States and ... it is my position that the Bush administration has failed the American people miserably.

Granted ... Obama says all the right words.  As Obama states he is a great speaker; great politician.  However ... his twenty-year history with those who embrace a Marxist ideology and Islamic causes ... implies his words are deceptive.

Janet

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Ahmadinejad Calls U.S. 'Satanic,' Israel 'About to Die'
Monday, June 02, 2008


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted that Muslims would uproot “satanic powers” and reaffirmed his prediction that the Jewish state will soon be wiped off the map, the Agence France-Presse news agency reported Monday.

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," Ahmadinejad said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started," the hard-line president said.

The White House immediately dismissed Ahmadinejad's latest attack on Israel and accused him of "total disregard" for the Iranian people's needs and beliefs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361705,00.html
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« Reply #379 on: June 07, 2008, 03:21:32 PM »

4.  ENDORSEMENTS FOR BARACK OBAMA


Farrakhan Praises Obama as ‘Hope of Entire World’
by Associated Press
Monday, February 25, 2008


CHICAGO — In his first major public address since a cancer crisis, Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan said that presidential candidate Barack Obama is the “hope of the entire world” that the U.S. will change for the better. The 74-year-old Farrakhan, former leader of the black Muslim group, never endorsed Obama outright, but spent much of his nearly two-hour speech Sunday to an estimated crowd of 20,000 people praising the Illinois senator.

“This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better,” he said. “This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow. If you look at Barack Obama’s audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed.”

Farrakhan compared Obama to the religion’s founder, Fard Muhammad, who also had a white mother and black father.

“A black man with a white mother became a savior to us,” he told the crowd of mostly followers. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.”

Farrakhan also leveled small jabs at Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama’s rival for the Democratic nomination, suggesting that she represents the politics of the past and has been engaging in dirty politics.

Said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton: “Sen. Obama has been clear in his objections to Minister Farrakhan’s past pronouncements and has not solicited the minister’s support.”

Farrakhan rebuilt the Nation of Islam, which promotes black empowerment and nationalism, in the late 1970s after W.D. Mohammed, the son of longtime leader Elijah Mohammed, moved his followers toward mainstream Islam.

Farrakhan has drawn attention for calling Judaism a “gutter religion” and suggesting crack cocaine might have been a CIA plot to enslave blacks.



http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/25/farrakhan-praises-obama-as-hope-of-entire-world/

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Barack Obama's church gives racist Louis Farrakhan an award
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-ipVJcq1U


Minister Farrakhan Speaks About Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7QUftErt_M&feature=related


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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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