Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 - 3/25/08

[Rob]

nothing on canal 90 or Top 95.

just music and the normal babbling during the music.

I've been trying to call this number:

011 297 8 828952    not working on my cell phone    are we sure the area code is 8?   I have 5 for all my other Aruba numbers....

Thanks to all the Monkeys who replied to my first email

Hi Des, 011 and 297 are correct. Not sure about the #8.

[Destiny]

nothing on canal 90 or Top 95.

just music and the normal babbling during the music.

I've been trying to call this number:

011 297 8 828952    not working on my cell phone    are we sure the area code is 8?   I have 5 for all my other Aruba numbers....

Thanks to all the Monkeys who replied to my first email

Hi Des, 011 and 297 are correct. Not sure about the #8.

I've been trying the *5*...am getting a busy signal...TY

[Windsor]

Thanks, guys.  Carlo sure doesn't sound French to me!!

What do you think of van Loon being "Daury?"  I know you can't believe a thing coming out of Joran's mouth, but he did tell Patrick that "Daury" has never been questioned, and after Beth's reference in her book about van Loon, I have to wonder if he could be the one Joran called.  I was quite surprised when I read that part; I'd never heard about that encounter.  She is quite the woman, if you ask me.

Klaas -- any chance, that, though Chris Lejuez could be Simian??  (wrong thread, I know; sorry)

Also, I was thinking about Simian's post about staying overnight at KIA when it was inaugurated and others in "his" graduating class.  Obviously, we think he was a student, but maybe he was a teacher; teachers are quite possessive of their students/kids.  But, like I said, I found Chris Lejuez's picture as a student there around 1988.  So much to think about ... 

[BTgirl]

nothing on canal 90 or Top 95.

just music and the normal babbling during the music.

I've been trying to call this number:

011 297 8 828952    not working on my cell phone    are we sure the area code is 8?   I have 5 for all my other Aruba numbers....

Thanks to all the Monkeys who replied to my first email

Hi Des, 011 and 297 are correct. Not sure about the #8.

I've been trying the *5*...am getting a busy signal...TY

011 + 297 + 8+ Tel #

from this link: http://www.countrycodes.com/country.php?f=250&t=12&searchCountry.x=123&searchCountry.y=29

[crazybabyborg]

 

Joran's been arrested???
I'm at work and just checked in!
Where did they find him???

[Observer]

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Antonio Carlo(Jorans Lawyer)relieved his conscious to KJ just a couple weeks after Natalee dissapeared. He said that Joran played a major role in Natalee's dissapearance but it was up to the prosecution to prove it.

We know from Beths book that he said they searched his boat and this was within the first few days. He told Beth well what about the Honda? Many of the earliest tips were about a yellow Range Rover with a boat and barrel in the back. I have never seen a PV on him though.

Thanks, ******* -- I was hoping the attorney was Chris Lejuez.  I went to the ColegeArubio web site posted earlier and found his picture there around 1988 or so, so I was thinking, "Well, Lejuez sure sounds French to me, maybe Shango thought Simian (the Frenchman) was Lejuez, and that this was Lejuez's way of getting information out there so the prosecution could nail'em, since Lejuez had a heavy heart, but I'm wrong, it's Carlo.

And if van Loon has never been taken in for questioning, and since I just read Beth's book over the weekend, I thought maybe he's "Daury."  His real name is Theodore, but he goes by Vadir?  What other nicknames might he have?
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I saw that pic of Chris Lejuez in the yearbook and I think they put out the wrong picture..As Chris is very fair skinned and White.

Vader Van Loon in Dutch means the Father of Money..The way he interacted with Beth and what we have seen the last 3 years,I do not think he has anything to do with this case.IMO I was suprised to see that Beth said he was also related to the Van Der Sloots.

[klaasend]

Posted by Nativelingo at RU:

Stanley Arends is the one who mentioned it on Canal 90. It's not confirmed yet. It could just be a rumor to shift attention from other government issues happening here right now.....Strikes, etc. Who knows....

[crazybabyborg]

Posted by Nativelingo at RU:

Stanley Arends is the one who mentioned it on Canal 90. It's not confirmed yet. It could just be a rumor to shift attention from other government issues happening here right now.....Strikes, etc. Who knows....

Thank you Klaas!!!! 

[klaasend]

Joran's been arrested???
I'm at work and just checked in!
Where did they find him???

Not confirmed.  Nativelingo said it was reported on Canal 90 in Aruba but no confirmation that it's really true, could be a false rumor.

[Observer]

Joran's been arrested???
I'm at work and just checked in!
Where did they find him???

Hi CBB remember that same Radio station recently reported rumors that were never confirmed. I think last month they said that Natalee was buried on Lorenzo's property or something like that.

[texasmom]

nothing on canal 90 or Top 95.

just music and the normal babbling during the music.

I've been trying to call this number:

011 297 8 828952    not working on my cell phone    are we sure the area code is 8?   I have 5 for all my other Aruba numbers....

Thanks to all the Monkeys who replied to my first email

Hi Des, 011 and 297 are correct. Not sure about the #8.

I've been trying the *5*...am getting a busy signal...TY

 

[Rob]

vms, do you see him online currently?

[caesu]

i don't read anywhere about joran being arrested again.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/
http://www.nu.nl/
http://www.nieuwnieuws.nl/
http://teletekst.nos.nl/?101-01
http://www.rtl.nl/videotext/rtl4/pag101/01

about Peter de Witte.

the director of the dutch antilles and aruban coast guards (DKW NA&A) is always the commander of the dutch navy in the caribbean area (CZMCARIB). he is also commander of task group 4.4 (CTG 4.4).
F. Sijtsma was this from 2004-2007, then P.W. Lenselink took over.
http://www.marine.nl/overdemarine/admiraliteitsraad/c-carib/
Peter de Witte was acting director was for a period in around 2006 but the real director must have been Sijtsma.

here about the organistion in the KW NA&A:
http://www.kustwacht.an/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=43

no less than 17 ministers of the three countries are involved.
in particular the three justice ministers (croes/ballin/dick).
also the procureur generaals and the governors of aruba and the antilles.
but ultimate responsibilty lies with the dutch defense minister (currently van middelkoop).

[Observer]

Thanks, guys.  Carlo sure doesn't sound French to me!!

What do you think of van Loon being "Daury?"  I know you can't believe a thing coming out of Joran's mouth, but he did tell Patrick that "Daury" has never been questioned, and after Beth's reference in her book about van Loon, I have to wonder if he could be the one Joran called.  I was quite surprised when I read that part; I'd never heard about that encounter.  She is quite the woman, if you ask me.

Klaas -- any chance, that, though Chris Lejuez could be Simian??  (wrong thread, I know; sorry)

Also, I was thinking about Simian's post about staying overnight at KIA when it was inaugurated and others in "his" graduating class.  Obviously, we think he was a student, but maybe he was a teacher; teachers are quite possessive of their students/kids.  But, like I said, I found Chris Lejuez's picture as a student there around 1988.  So much to think about ... 

The only person that jumped out at me was Gino Hodge but he was not in that graduating class,but a few years later. He is GinoX at Racejunkies who was talking about Lorenzo a week before AG did,his brother is Pietjezz who said Lorenzo was involved. I saw others are at that site like Monica Kock and several other Ministers.

[Buckeye]

i don't read anywhere about joran being arrested again.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/
http://www.nu.nl/
http://www.nieuwnieuws.nl/
http://teletekst.nos.nl/?101-01
http://www.rtl.nl/videotext/rtl4/pag101/01

about Peter de Witte.

the director of the dutch antilles and aruban coast guards (DKW NA&A) is always the commander of the dutch navy in the caribbean area (CZMCARIB). he is also commander of task group 4.4 (CTG 4.4).
F. Sijtsma was this from 2004-2007, then P.W. Lenselink took over.
http://www.marine.nl/overdemarine/admiraliteitsraad/c-carib/
Peter de Witte was acting director was for a period in around 2006 but the real director must have been Sijtsma.

here about the organistion in the KW NA&A:
http://www.kustwacht.an/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=43

no less than 17 ministers of the three countries are involved.
in particular the three justice ministers (croes/ballin/dick).
also the procureur generaals and the governors of aruba and the antilles.
but ultimate responsibilty lies with the dutch defense minister (currently van middelkoop).

Thanks caesu.

[vms]

vms, do you see him online currently?

No, showing Mobile now. Online at 8:28 AM. I saved it because of the rumors of hospitalization...

[Rob]

vms, do you see him online currently?

No, showing Mobile now. Online at 8:28 AM. I saved it because of the rumors of hospitalization...

thanks vms

[Observer]

vms, do you see him online currently?

No, showing Mobile now. Online at 8:28 AM. I saved it because of the rumors of hospitalization...

That would be 1:28 in the Afternoon Dutch time depending where you are located..Hopefully that is when he got a knock at his door 

[Destiny]

Using the #5 instead of #8...the 8 only gets me a recording that my intl. call can't be made with this number, please check number.

#5 is in all the other Aruban numbers I have...using the #5 with both numbers listed on CANAL 90 site...one, no answer...other still busy....tried to look them up on Aruba yellowpages...I got no listing...sigh...will keep trying 'til someone else posts info...

[Bladerunner]

Rumor or not, it is only a matter of time before the house of cards comes down. Mos has to make a move sooner or later, how long has it been since the video, a month or more?