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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on March 19, 2008, 07:49:53 PM
Steve Croes looks like a freak.....he has no shoulders.
Hi Magnolia...I "normally" don't like to comment on someone's appearance, but you have to admit the whole clan of these deranged megalomaniacs looks like they just arrived from Chernobyl.
Steve is a DJ is because they won't let him on the dance floor because he knocks people down with his tail.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Didn't the owner of the Tatoo said that Steve had the key and could have taken out the boat later that night without him knowing it.
Does he have a statement here somewhere
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Quote from: ******* on March 19, 2008, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: bc73 on March 19, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
*******, that "boat" is above average speed, with absolutely nothing but empty space on it. It also would never be questioned because of the frequent trips back and forth. It is a great point, because where else would that creep(SGC) fit into this mess. BTW, it is good to see your posts again after a trying week....
I agree..It's quite big and quick..Would be easy as heck using this boat with a 300lb cage. Not sure where SGC fits in all of this except he's buddies with Deepak and he was at C&C that night. I thought it was interesting that Edward Croes is Hendrik's son as well,his name has popped up a few times in this investigation.
Nice to see you BC73
*******, are you saying you know for a fact that Edward is Henrik's son?
Now, I wonder if Eric Croes is Rudy's kid... check this -
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Eric Croes on right - Anti Christ at head of table.
where do we know the name Eric Croes from? anyone remember?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Quote from: Dayhiker on March 19, 2008, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: ******* on March 19, 2008, 08:03:33 PM
Steve was fired for a reason from the Tatoo. Was it for going to C&C and leaving the Tatoo unattended on May 29th? Or did he do something that got him fired? We heard 3 different excuses why Deepak's Mom was fired but none for the liar SGC?
Marcus just bounced him after his previous glowing review... why? so you're right.
I don't think there is anyway on God's green earth that Croes could operate the Tattoo on his own, but even I can operate that dingy.
Hey Brudda! Throwing Steve into the equation adds a boat capable of handling a big trap and more muscle to get the thing in the boat.
And there's that 6:30 am phone call from a suspect's family he didn't even know.
Yooo!!
That boat would be the logical choice and a lot less work then a cigarette boat or a sea pro if they did use a cage like that. A couple of ATM withdrawls would be enough to borrow that boat from SGC for 90 minutes. It's always docked and easily accessable. Wish we knew exactly who that 6:30 AM call was placed to
Was it the Santa Cruz are or Santa Lucia area?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Quote from: Blonde on March 19, 2008, 08:31:47 PM
Didn't the owner of the Tatoo said that Steve had the key and could have taken out the boat later that night without him knowing it.
Does he have a statement here somewhere
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GRACE: You know what, Karl Penhaul, a lot of what you`re telling me, very, very interesting the fact that no sight nor sound, hide nor hair of Natalee Holloway, and you`re saying this guy D.J.s on a cruise ship. Explain that. What, does he go out for the evening, they party hardy, and then come back?
PENHAUL: Exactly that cruise ship, called the tattoo party boat, like I say, a 110-foot catamaran, that usually leaves the pier in front of the Aruba Grand Hotel. That`s about 300 yards down the beach from the Holiday Inn where Natalee Holloway was staying. That boat leaves most evenings at around 8 o`clock in the evening, gets back about 12 o`clock.
The staff, the crew of the boat, are usually leaving the pier and going home around 1 o`clock. But according to the owner, that boat generally doesn`t go out on a Sunday night, unless, of course, there`s a special party booked. You`ll remember that Natalee Holloway went missing late Sunday night, very early Monday morning -- Nancy?
GRACE: Karl, do we know if there was a special party booked that Sunday night that she went missing?
PENHAUL: We don`t have that answer yet. We are looking into that to see what the boat`s movements were. We do know from the owner, Marcus Williams (sic), that Steve Croes did have a key to the boat. But the owner also tells us that the boat has a special electronic security system on it and he doesn`t believe that Steve Croes would have been able to take the boat without his permission. And he has described Steve Croes as a model employee, Nancy.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/17/ng.01.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Posted by Glenda at RU:
Stanley of Canal 90 caught wind of a sting where someone Joran has associated with was arrested. The arrest has nothing to with Natalee, and I was told it was for an "old" crime, allegedly. I understand how the story got twisted to include Joran. But I can assure you that the OM said today that Joran has not been re-arrested in the N.H. Case.
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Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2008, 08:37:50 PM
Posted by Glenda at RU:
Stanley of Canal 90 caught wind of a sting where someone Joran has associated with was arrested. The arrest has nothing to with Natalee, and I was told it was for an "old" crime, allegedly. I understand how the story got twisted to include Joran. But I can assure you that the OM said today that Joran has not been re-arrested in the N.H. Case.
Followup by Glenda:
Mos did not confirm or deny whether Joran had been arrested, just that the Aruban Authorities did not request an arrest of Joran v/d Sloot.
OG and SMS have stated that they are sure that Joran has not been arrested and I believe them
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Quote from: Dayhiker on March 19, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 07:18:50 PM
*******, if Joran is in the loony bin, I would hope that the taxpayers are not paying for it... and it's putting a bigger kink in the Sloot's bank account!
maybe the haters should pass the love bowl for the 39th time.
The $65,000 question is "At what point does he gut the Sloot bank account?"
Hi Dayhiker - it's always been a war of attrition and the Sloot's don't have Rockfeller money... and I doubt Aruba as a whole has it anymore.
good to see you Bro!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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March 19, 2008, 08:42:56 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2008, 08:35:56 PM
Quote from: Blonde on March 19, 2008, 08:31:47 PM
Didn't the owner of the Tatoo said that Steve had the key and could have taken out the boat later that night without him knowing it.
Does he have a statement here somewhere
Snip
GRACE: You know what, Karl Penhaul, a lot of what you`re telling me, very, very interesting the fact that no sight nor sound, hide nor hair of Natalee Holloway, and you`re saying this guy D.J.s on a cruise ship. Explain that. What, does he go out for the evening, they party hardy, and then come back?
PENHAUL: Exactly that cruise ship, called the tattoo party boat, like I say, a 110-foot catamaran, that usually leaves the pier in front of the Aruba Grand Hotel. That`s about 300 yards down the beach from the Holiday Inn where Natalee Holloway was staying. That boat leaves most evenings at around 8 o`clock in the evening, gets back about 12 o`clock.
The staff, the crew of the boat, are usually leaving the pier and going home around 1 o`clock. But according to the owner, that boat generally doesn`t go out on a Sunday night, unless, of course, there`s a special party booked. You`ll remember that Natalee Holloway went missing late Sunday night, very early Monday morning -- Nancy?
GRACE: Karl, do we know if there was a special party booked that Sunday night that she went missing?
PENHAUL: We don`t have that answer yet. We are looking into that to see what the boat`s movements were. We do know from the owner, Marcus Williams (sic), that Steve Croes did have a key to the boat. But the owner also tells us that the boat has a special electronic security system on it and he doesn`t believe that Steve Croes would have been able to take the boat without his permission. And he has described Steve Croes as a model employee, Nancy.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/17/ng.01.html
Thanks Texasmom.
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Thank You texasmom
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Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2008, 08:40:18 PM
Quote from: klaasend on March 19, 2008, 08:37:50 PM
Posted by Glenda at RU:
Stanley of Canal 90 caught wind of a sting where someone Joran has associated with was arrested. The arrest has nothing to with Natalee, and I was told it was for an "old" crime, allegedly. I understand how the story got twisted to include Joran. But I can assure you that the OM said today that Joran has not been re-arrested in the N.H. Case.
Followup by Glenda:
Mos did not confirm or deny whether Joran had been arrested, just that the Aruban Authorities did not request an arrest of Joran v/d Sloot.
OG and SMS have stated that they are sure that Joran has not been arrested and I believe them
Oh well that settles that, LOL! The second biggest liar on Aruba (oh forgot, he's in Germany now) has spoken.
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Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 07:48:31 PM
Quote from: cubbeegirl on March 19, 2008, 07:45:29 PM
Not bad at all Rob.... kinda thinking like me.... but they already have a cell ready for him at Angola and the welcoming committee is waiting to welcome him.....here comes da bride....
new meat Wednesday?
LOL.... just got back , had to step out for a minute and saw this and LMAO....
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Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 08:41:35 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on March 19, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
The $65,000 question is "At what point does he gut the Sloot bank account?"
Hi Dayhiker - it's always been a war of attrition and the Sloot's don't have Rockfeller money... and I doubt Aruba as a whole has it anymore.
good to see you Bro!
They seem to only be able to afford the infrequent fart from Mafia Joe's mouth now so times must be tight.
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You're welcome Janet, and Blonde.
It still stands out to me from that statement that Wiggins "doesn't believe" Croes could have taken the boat out due to the security system...He didn't state that he "knew" he couldn't or didn't. Also the fact that Croes was fired shortly following still leaves a doubt in my mind.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
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Quote from: Dayhiker on March 19, 2008, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 08:41:35 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on March 19, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
The $65,000 question is "At what point does he gut the Sloot bank account?"
Hi Dayhiker - it's always been a war of attrition and the Sloot's don't have Rockfeller money... and I doubt Aruba as a whole has it anymore.
good to see you Bro!
They seem to only be able to afford the infrequent fart from Mafia Joe's mouth now so times must be tight.
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Quote from: ******* on March 19, 2008, 08:35:54 PM
Yooo!!
That boat would be the logical choice and a lot less work then a cigarette boat or a sea pro if they did use a cage like that. A couple of ATM withdrawls would be enough to borrow that boat from SGC for 90 minutes. It's always docked and easily accessable. Wish we knew exactly who that 6:30 AM call was placed to
Was it the Santa Cruz are or Santa Lucia area?
And it's highly unlikely his boss knew what the heck Steve was doing at 3:00 in the morning. He was surely passed out stoned like the rest of the Arubans at that hour.
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Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2008, 08:53:28 PM
You're welcome Janet, and Blonde.
It still stands out to me from that statement that Wiggins "doesn't believe" Croes could have taken the boat out due to the security system...He didn't state that he "knew" he couldn't or didn't. Also the fact that Croes was fired shortly following still leaves a doubt in my mind.
YUP! He don't know nuthin. He's got his own little cover-up going to protect the integrity of the Tatoo!
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Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2008, 08:53:28 PM
You're welcome Janet, and Blonde.
It still stands out to me from that statement that Wiggins "doesn't believe" Croes could have taken the boat out due to the security system...He didn't state that he "knew" he couldn't or didn't. Also the fact that Croes was fired shortly following still leaves a doubt in my mind.
Yes..Normally Employers try to hang on to Model Employees....
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Quote from: Rob on March 19, 2008, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: ******* on March 19, 2008, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: bc73 on March 19, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
*******, are you saying you know for a fact that Edward is Henrik's son?
Now, I wonder if Eric Croes is Rudy's kid... check this -
original
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Eric Croes on right - Anti Christ at head of table.
where do we know the name Eric Croes from? anyone remember?
Not familiar with Eric but he is in some interesting company in that picture.
Yes in yesterdays newspaper they listed Edward as Hendriks son saying he would sue for his Father if he was jailed. If you go way back to June 10th Edward Croes is on record confirming Natalee is deceased,he was a advisor to Rudy Croes in the DOJ.
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Julia at RU says these psychics in 2005 told her Lorenzo murdered Pitbull.
Daniel:Anybody can do anything. It happens in the states all the time. And you’re talking, you’re talking… quite a … there was another thing that was involved in that we’ll tell another time. That we’re here (hear?) another story that I don’t …that Edward witnessed, I mean they brought tears to his eyes … involved in this and we took him there and we pulled the girl out of the … we pulled the girl out of the store.
And there was another murder due to this. Due to knowing that Natalee was alive.
Question: So someone was murdered because they knew too much?
Female: uh-huh (yes)
Male: Another one here.
Question: By who?
Female and Male – not saying it right now, we don’t want to go…(?)
Male:
But but Edward was there, he witnessed it. Edward Croes right there, witnessed it.
And had tears in his eyes. We pulled this total stranger out of the store and it was and there was something in it and it o.. yeah…
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Quote from: texasmom on March 19, 2008, 08:35:56 PM
Quote from: Blonde on March 19, 2008, 08:31:47 PM
Didn't the owner of the Tatoo said that Steve had the key and could have taken out the boat later that night without him knowing it.
Does he have a statement here somewhere
Snip
GRACE: You know what, Karl Penhaul, a lot of what you`re telling me, very, very interesting the fact that no sight nor sound, hide nor hair of Natalee Holloway, and you`re saying this guy D.J.s on a cruise ship. Explain that. What, does he go out for the evening, they party hardy, and then come back?
PENHAUL: Exactly that cruise ship, called the tattoo party boat, like I say, a 110-foot catamaran, that usually leaves the pier in front of the Aruba Grand Hotel. That`s about 300 yards down the beach from the Holiday Inn where Natalee Holloway was staying. That boat leaves most evenings at around 8 o`clock in the evening, gets back about 12 o`clock.
The staff, the crew of the boat, are usually leaving the pier and going home around 1 o`clock. But according to the owner, that boat generally doesn`t go out on a Sunday night, unless, of course, there`s a special party booked. You`ll remember that Natalee Holloway went missing late Sunday night, very early Monday morning -- Nancy?
GRACE: Karl, do we know if there was a special party booked that Sunday night that she went missing?
PENHAUL: We don`t have that answer yet. We are looking into that to see what the boat`s movements were. We do know from the owner, Marcus Williams (sic), that Steve Croes did have a key to the boat. But the owner also tells us that the boat has a special electronic security system on it and he doesn`t believe that Steve Croes would have been able to take the boat without his permission. And he has described Steve Croes as a model employee, Nancy.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/17/ng.01.html
i was under the impression that steve c. was doing watchman duties on the tattoo that night. he supposedly got fired for not staying on board all night like he was supposed to.
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===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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