Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 - 3/25/08

[JE]

O'K, about the 5th

Did it actually say the party was at his "house"....or just that he was the host??

Read some old Dutch comments from 2005-2006.  Not many were found.  Someone made a comment like..."wasn't that May 30, 2005.....was that mn brother's birthday??....you probably couldn't remember it....".

Anybody know who an mn is?   (ps I know it's reaching....)

Buckeye do you have a link to that post?

No, I was going to go back in history for the Netherlands google search....but Silverfox scared me so much this morning, I have cleared everything....I'll try to rethink what I was looking for.

if it was a translation from a dutch post mn could mean mijn/my

for example: was dat mn broers verjaardag
                  was that my brothers birthday

[klaasend]

Looks like someone drowned in Aruba today.  They've had some really high surf lately and rough seas.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4264/5/

[Buckeye]

O'K, about the 5th

Did it actually say the party was at his "house"....or just that he was the host??

Read some old Dutch comments from 2005-2006.  Not many were found.  Someone made a comment like..."wasn't that May 30, 2005.....was that mn brother's birthday??....you probably couldn't remember it....".

Anybody know who an mn is?   (ps I know it's reaching....)

Buckeye do you have a link to that post?

No, I was going to go back in history for the Netherlands google search....but Silverfox scared me so much this morning, I have cleared everything....I'll try to rethink what I was looking for.

if it was a translation from a dutch post mn could mean mijn/my

for example: was dat mn broers verjaardag
                  was that my brothers birthday

Think I found it...but it's new...



@Mark. Was het niet op 30 mei 2005? Toen was mn broer jarig (die heeft al vaker voor mn albi gezorgd).

Geplaatst door: Jos van Vliet RLP | 5 februari 2008 om 22:52


http://josvanvliet.web-log.nl/josvanvliet/2008/02/nieuwe_ster_in_.html#comments


Let me know if it's anything.

[Buckeye]

San's locked and loaded????  YIKES !!!!!!!!

I can never catch up now, being on the road every week precludes that now. Anyway I was stuck on the tarmac for several hours (do not fly american airlines) last night, sitting next to a french-american. You talk about many things (beside how much american is delayed) and the conversation turned to what interested me  and the internet, Natalee then became a topic. It was very enlightening for he lives in the US half of the year and Paris the other half. I'll summarize what he shared with me, I have no way to validate this but......I did think of Dilbart as I conversed with this french-american gentleman who is so much nicer than Dilbart   

He said that everyone in Europe is well aware of Joran's "criminal bent" and his "decadent lifestyle". When I asked him to define decadent well it was  unrepeatable here. Europe is so different than the US in that way, we forget that at times, much more liberal and even intrigued by decadence out in the open. He said that his father isn't so powerful himself but attached to those like Rudy Croes that are - so much so that if Paulus falls, the domino effect could begin.

I did ask him what he thought about the loss of Natalee, whether he felt it was an abominable act. He said yes for he said in Europe, a "virginal" girl is respected for her choices by educated society. He went on to say that only in a 'barbaric' place like Aruba are women still treated like "tools" to be used however one wants.

I know this isn't anything new but I did find it interesting to hear his perspective. We also exchanged email addresses, he's heading back to Paris soon but promised to visit some of the sites he knows of, some of which he said he feels could have posts that reveal more about Joran's life in Holland. He also said Peter de Vries isn't a blowhard at all, that he is a respected reporter - found that significant too.

Happy Easter None...to you and your's....still in the cookie business, at all?

[bleachedblack]

Looks like someone drowned in Aruba today.  They've had some really high surf lately and rough seas.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4264/5/

...sure hope it didn't have anything to do with the work slow down.
Maybe paramedics and police were slow to arrive?

[Blue Moon]

Heading out for the weekend. Tuncia, MS casino's. Can't wait.

Anything yet on the Dutch lawyer?  Is he taking the case for Beth against Joran?  Thanks.

[JE]

@ buckeye Its a story about lorenzo now being looked at as the possible daury The guy who owns the blog says: make sure you have an alibi because before you know it everyone is a suspect

The guy that responds says: wasn't it may 30th? that was on my brothers birthday( he 's been my alibi before)

So no MN, its just an abbreviation of mijn=my

srry it's nothing

[klaasend]

Heading out for the weekend. Tuncia, MS casino's. Can't wait.

Anything yet on the Dutch lawyer?  Is he taking the case for Beth against Joran?  Thanks.

Have a great weekend and Happy Easter!

Nothing on the Dutch lawyer yet.  Probably won't be getting any news until after Sunday now unless they decide to do something on Sunday since they appear to like to arrest people on holidays. 

[Nut44x4]

I GOT MY TOTE BAG AND IT IS PERFECT!!!
It does have Natalees picture on it and the bag is BIG!! I LOVE IT AND I CAN't wait to tote stuff around in it!! No one can take it away from me...it is mine!! LOL! 

[Blue Moon]

Heading out for the weekend. Tuncia, MS casino's. Can't wait.

Anything yet on the Dutch lawyer?  Is he taking the case for Beth against Joran?  Thanks.

Have a great weekend and Happy Easter!

Nothing on the Dutch lawyer yet.  Probably won't be getting any news until after Sunday now unless they decide to do something on Sunday since they appear to like to arrest people on holidays. 

Thanks, you have a great Easter and relax and take a little break. You deserve it.

[Buckeye]

@ buckeye Its a story about lorenzo now being looked at as the possible daury The guy who owns the blog says: make sure you have an alibi because before you know it everyone is a suspect

The guy that responds says: wasn't it may 30th? that was on my brothers birthday( he 's been my alibi before)

So no MN, its just an abbreviation of mijn=my

srry it's nothing

Thanks...it's nice to have someone yeh or nay , not to mention REALLY translate the Dutch.   

[dennisintn]

Looks like someone drowned in Aruba today.  They've had some really high surf lately and rough seas.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4264/5/

...sure hope it didn't have anything to do with the work slow down.
Maybe paramedics and police were slow to arrive?

if jvds had been there, polis and paramedics wouldn't have been needed.
dennisintn

[cubbeegirl]

Looks like someone drowned in Aruba today.  They've had some really high surf lately and rough seas.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4264/5/

...sure hope it didn't have anything to do with the work slow down.
Maybe paramedics and police were slow to arrive?

if jvds had been there, polis and paramedics wouldn't have been needed.
dennisintn

Ain't that the truth....

[klaasend]

I GOT MY TOTE BAG AND IT IS PERFECT!!!
It does have Natalees picture on it and the bag is BIG!! I LOVE IT AND I CAN't wait to tote stuff around in it!! No one can take it away from me...it is mine!! LOL! 

I'm so glad you got it and it turned out nice!  I'm hoping Red can get things straightened out with Cafepress so we can sell them again. 

[jackb]

Jack, we should talk.

OK, meet me at the corner of 4th st and vine.  I'll be standing on the corner.
LOL.  Probably need to. GS.  Perhaps we should.   jackb

[jackb]

Looks like someone drowned in Aruba today.  They've had some really high surf lately and rough seas.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4264/5/

Another accident via crab cage?

[jackb]

jackb wrote;

His connection may be that he uses and maybe sells this videotaped stuff.  He was in Aruba for awhile.  He may still be connected there (or was.)  They have a market from these dirty old men who live in Thailand.  (note: JM Carr.)  Old martin had what appeared to be statues, at first of BTK killer, J. Gacy, Dahmer, and the likes in this room.  There were sever pictures of a "room" of his on there, but after I got the "doll and dollhouse" that particular room pic got taken down.  I have all this, however.  The statues were pictures of them and books on a shelf.  I really have done some work.  I have made my rounds on this, for sure.   Thanks.....

jackb hope you don't mind a few questions. How do you know Marten was definitely in Aruba? I have been aware of him and the speculative connections to this case from the beginning.....but sorry never heard of any statues, where did this information come from? I would appreciate it if you would please share some of your homework.

I do share it in the right time to whom I can.  Also the organized clubs in aruba will give you information about who belonged to what and what years.  Some in the 2005 era have been taken down, but there are others who have incomings of officers that precede the 2005 year and outgoing, etc.  Sort of like a chamber of commerce brag book.  It is best left said that some things people need to find and use if they can to support or not support where they are going.  If I put all that I have found and connected on this blog, no one else would have a chance to write or be heard and I would be backtracking in my work that I am doing.  I would also surmise that no one is going to go much past their own theories as it would just confuse.  I do stir the pot once in awhile, but for someone such as myself who would take tiny tiny pics off beer bottles in pics and enhance them to clear large pictures, I believe the tediousness of what I am doing would bore you to tears.  Jack b.

Aaahhhh OK...............I guess. Most of the time though it is encouraged to not make a statement ie about the statues with nothing at all to back it up. Lets just say with something, maybe one of the tiny pictures you alude...tends to lend credibility to what you post. OK heading out , back later.

There are those that have seen them on here I am sure.  I do not wish, at this time to post those for the public consumption, just yet.  I will say the beer bottle shows reflection of the sender from one side and the receiver, somewhat from the other and because light travels faster the pic was taken before the beer bottle broke.  No I will not explain farther, just whetting your appetite, but someone who could use this will have to completely do the procedure over in order for it to be used in any way legally.  They should be able to do it and faster than I did, as they are supposed to have the equipment for that specifically.  If they do not, then I want to know why I have been paying taxes.  Now an't I clever?  No, just patient and thorough in some things.  LOL  jackb

[texasmom]

@ buckeye Its a story about lorenzo now being looked at as the possible daury The guy who owns the blog says: make sure you have an alibi because before you know it everyone is a suspect

The guy that responds says: wasn't it may 30th? that was on my brothers birthday( he 's been my alibi before)

So no MN, its just an abbreviation of mijn=my

srry it's nothing

Thanks...it's nice to have someone yeh or nay , not to mention REALLY translate the Dutch.   

I agree Buckeye! 

[jackb]

Looks like someone drowned in Aruba today.  They've had some really high surf lately and rough seas.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/4264/5/

...sure hope it didn't have anything to do with the work slow down.
Maybe paramedics and police were slow to arrive?

 

My question is:  How could they tell there is a work slow down?

[Lala'sMom]

DennisinTn...Mum sent me some stuff on Jean Akers today.  I am going to post in Shango thread.  It has links to previous convos in the LCD here.  She said she didn't keep what she posted...so I will have to search again to find it all..but it is a start.


Jackb... Please post your theories about the 5th suspect in the Shango thread for us to read.  That thread will eventually have an index and it will be easier to find or if you prefer here...I will just bring them over there later.