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« Reply #800 on: March 23, 2008, 08:30:02 PM »

Hi San and Happy Easter, the "lying" is NOT to be believed for Joran but it's "GOOD" for the Kalpoes? How does that exactly work? LOL

In the Aruban World of Realism - this should have been a lynch pin that the Kalpoes are the actual perpetrators. hahahaha

just believe the opposite of what is said!!!

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« Reply #801 on: March 23, 2008, 08:34:05 PM »

Hi San and Happy Easter, the "lying" is NOT to be believed for Joran but it's "GOOD" for the Kalpoes? How does that exactly work? LOL

In the Aruban World of Realism - this should have been a lynch pin that the Kalpoes are the actual perpetrators. hahahaha

just believe the opposite of what is said!!!



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« Reply #802 on: March 23, 2008, 08:37:48 PM »

In order for there to many more people involved, that little pool side chat must have involved threats that have never been revealed. And the Kalpoes are real dolts.

The Kalpoes say the lie was for Joran. I wonder if the Dolt Bros. have learned their lesson? Nowhere is there any indication that anyone else but the main suspects are involved. There are no PVs linking anyone else to my knowledge. It's just a bunch of idiots covering for each other. And of course the low lifes that think Paulus is something special.

And I have been thinking that Shango is one of Anita's new age cronies from the ISA. That school is a barrel full of fruit loops.
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« Reply #803 on: March 23, 2008, 08:38:57 PM »

Bro Bro-
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« Reply #804 on: March 23, 2008, 10:44:02 PM »


The 5th person has an alibi...so tight...so tight. Remember?  If Paulus did not have one..then it can not be him...just saying...don't throw things in my direction.  It's your words...not mine.   

Acccckkkkkkkkkkk!!!!....am heading off for the day...so, am tossing this on the fire....The 5th person has an alibi...so tight...so tight...I would even consider...*Anita*....the stories of who went where with her...don't add up...carry on Monkeys Wink


I'm with you on this Destiny! 

Paulus, Anita and the 2 younger bros were all gone -- Paulus flew home that fateful Sunday.....

Then we have Paulus being home all along -- with the 2 younger bros.......the reason why Paulus had to leave the casino......

And where were these young boys when Paulus left his home in the middle of the night for several hours when Beth and Jug arrived?? Where were the younger boys then?? And why wasn't Paulus concerned at all about leaving them alone. He NEVER mentions them.


lala's -- one of the thoughts I've been mulling in recently weeks (although not having any time to post and share and get smarter monkey's thoughts)

Paulus's '2 singing cards' that were 'up his sleeve' and the 'alibi that was so tight'.....
Valentjin and Sebastian 

Also -- imo -- 'party at his home' may not be as 'literal' as we are taking it.

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Sharon and Destiny...I have to agree with You it is really strange that Paulus even says that Val is the one that woke Him up when Beth and Jug arrived that first night...now how could Val wake Him up if Val was in Holland with Anita....So were the boys at home or were the boys and Anita at home or in Holland.... when Natalee was there the morning of May 30....none of Paulus' story adds up..His alibi is not airtight...
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« Reply #805 on: March 23, 2008, 10:49:46 PM »


Innocent people don't lie. They cooperate with the police.
Innocent people don't lawyer up themselves and their friends from the get go.

I still can't fathom how the Sloots can afford all those attorneys. 

  The ones whose children are involved are making sure there are lawyers because if one falls, they all will...the adults who have covered this thing up as well.
It is being covered as well by the casinos who have lawyers on retainer, most likely because they served minors, their employee(s) may have been involved and made the decision to be involved while working as NH was there when (Guido) was, etc.
They have it all covered and that is one reason why it fits that adults were involved even deeper than the coverup.  This may not be the first time this has happened.  Looks to me like those working on Monday would be preparting to go to work or to school.  This surely says a lot about where the Aruban taxes are going.
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And maybe a couple of lawyers are willing to work for free in this case...the publicity is always there.
from the transcript of JVDS & Patrick:

What the f*** do you want?

Give me enough f***ing money, so I can buy a house in Spain.
We already filed a claim for compensation.
That had to be done within a month.
My father has arranged all that.
There are enough lawyers that are willing to help my father.



Hey TM...I'm wondering how His compensation claim is working out now since He opened His big mouth to Patrick.....LOL...How many of the Pimps have Fathers that are Attorneys? HMMMMM....
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« Reply #806 on: March 23, 2008, 11:16:25 PM »


Innocent people don't lie. They cooperate with the police.
Innocent people don't lawyer up themselves and their friends from the get go.

I still can't fathom how the Sloots can afford all those attorneys. 

  The ones whose children are involved are making sure there are lawyers because if one falls, they all will...the adults who have covered this thing up as well.
It is being covered as well by the casinos who have lawyers on retainer, most likely because they served minors, their employee(s) may have been involved and made the decision to be involved while working as NH was there when (Guido) was, etc.
They have it all covered and that is one reason why it fits that adults were involved even deeper than the coverup.  This may not be the first time this has happened.  Looks to me like those working on Monday would be preparting to go to work or to school.  This surely says a lot about where the Aruban taxes are going.
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And maybe a couple of lawyers are willing to work for free in this case...the publicity is always there.
from the transcript of JVDS & Patrick:

What the f*** do you want?

Give me enough f***ing money, so I can buy a house in Spain.
We already filed a claim for compensation.
That had to be done within a month.
My father has arranged all that.
There are enough lawyers that are willing to help my father.



Hey TM...I'm wondering how His compensation claim is working out now since He opened His big mouth to Patrick.....LOL...How many of the Pimps have Fathers that are Attorneys? HMMMMM....
Hey Hotping!  I hope you had a great Easter!
You know in a perfect world that compensation claim would have been in the toilet!  But since it's not a perfect world and we are talking about Aruba where EVERYTHING is actionable;  I can hear it now.....Poor JVDS all he did was give the American girl a ride to where she wanted to go and left her.  She'd wanted more but he had school the next day and had to go home.  When she "disappeared" the mother and American press would not stop until he was incarcerated.  The "wrongful", "repeated" incarceration and fear of sexual abuse while incarcerated put so much stress on him that his already teeny weeny became microscopic, he was driven to smoke pot constantly to relieve his stress of not having one; and the pot made him make up the story he told Patrick.  And he will have the best representation corruption can buy.  How does that sound?
  
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« Reply #807 on: March 23, 2008, 11:30:52 PM »


Innocent people don't lie. They cooperate with the police.
Innocent people don't lawyer up themselves and their friends from the get go.

I still can't fathom how the Sloots can afford all those attorneys. 

  The ones whose children are involved are making sure there are lawyers because if one falls, they all will...the adults who have covered this thing up as well.
It is being covered as well by the casinos who have lawyers on retainer, most likely because they served minors, their employee(s) may have been involved and made the decision to be involved while working as NH was there when (Guido) was, etc.
They have it all covered and that is one reason why it fits that adults were involved even deeper than the coverup.  This may not be the first time this has happened.  Looks to me like those working on Monday would be preparting to go to work or to school.  This surely says a lot about where the Aruban taxes are going.
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And maybe a couple of lawyers are willing to work for free in this case...the publicity is always there.
from the transcript of JVDS & Patrick:

What the f*** do you want?

Give me enough f***ing money, so I can buy a house in Spain.
We already filed a claim for compensation.
That had to be done within a month.
My father has arranged all that.
There are enough lawyers that are willing to help my father.



Hey TM...I'm wondering how His compensation claim is working out now since He opened His big mouth to Patrick.....LOL...How many of the Pimps have Fathers that are Attorneys? HMMMMM....
Hey Hotping!  I hope you had a great Easter!
You know in a perfect world that compensation claim would have been in the toilet!  But since it's not a perfect world and we are talking about Aruba where EVERYTHING is actionable;  I can hear it now.....Poor JVDS all he did was give the American girl a ride to where she wanted to go and left her.  She'd wanted more but he had school the next day and had to go home.  When she "disappeared" the mother and American press would not stop until he was incarcerated.  The "wrongful", "repeated" incarceration and fear of sexual abuse while incarcerated put so much stress on him that his already teeny weeny became microscopic, he was driven to smoke pot constantly to relieve his stress of not having one; and the pot made him make up the story he told Patrick.  And he will have the best representation corruption can buy.  How does that sound?
  
Perfect! I wish You could have heard Me laughing....You have it down pat as far as I'm concerned...Poor Joraaan....Poor Aruba!.....LMAO!  Maybe He can borrow some of MIP's Drugs for Himself....Oh never mind I don't think that Helps Teenie Weenies!...Too Funny! 
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« Reply #808 on: March 24, 2008, 12:20:04 AM »

Same to ya, Rob!

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« Reply #809 on: March 24, 2008, 12:31:57 AM »

I think Dilbert & Daury's check got a lot smaller after
THE GAS POWERED MOUTH FLAPPED HIS LIPS
throughout the Peter De Vries confessions!

Joran, you might want to scale down your new home
ideas in Spain!

I'm thinkin' something more along the lines of a
used camper trailer in Tiajuana, Mexico...
ya stupid jacka$$.

I hope you like generic toilet paper & Pabst Blue Ribbon beer, dude.

Me & THE MAGIC 8 BALL are
seeing a lot more of it in
your future.

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« Reply #810 on: March 24, 2008, 06:28:28 AM »

Hi SB and Happy Easter to you and all the Monks.

I guess in my opinion I go with Mos (not that I think he is completely on the up and up) and think it is just the 4 suspects. If Mos is lying and he could be, he will burn like nothing yet seen. The major players (Authorities) in the case are all gone and hardly a memory to most of America. Mos is the face of the investigation and I can't imagine Godfather Peter R giving him a break. Mos will go back to Holland in the near future - like 1 year. So, if Mos is totally lying and there are more people involved, I can easily imagine that there will be mobs outside his house just like Joran's. Mos will go back to Holland a hero or a goat. There is no in between. He is a relatively young man and I would think he has his family and career to think about.

I have learned that the Dutch don't like liars. They do seem to tolerate some of the issues that got us all hot and bothered, but lying really pisses them off. I'll never forget that guy that made the YouTube so very critical of Joran and for the first time I saw the Dutch outraged by the actions of one Joran Van Der Sloot.

I just don't see a "elders" involved. Not that it couldn't happen and not to say it hasn't happened in the past, but according to Joran's "confession" with Patrick - it's just him and he is there when Natalee dies. It would have been an ample opportunity to blame everyone else and get that on the record if he truly wanted. He didn't. I believe he told a portion of the truth. He could have told Patrick anything and it could have been believed because it seemed "off the record".

So, if someone has anything definitive linking anyone but the four main suspects, I'll listen, but I may not be convinced unless it comes from the FBI or the KLPD. I'm not saying that the possibility doesn't exist, but using the time-line, it's hard to imagine anything bad happening that doesn't involve anyone but JPK2.

You are right Rob.  He told a portion of the truth.  He made sure he left out the Kalpoes and His Father.  This is why those idiot Kalpoes were so happy when they heard the tape.  It's too bad that Joran's pot issues made the tape void. 

Hopefully his pot issues aren't going to cause a lot of trouble. He is a regular user of weed; he does it just about everyday & functions very well with it. I hope that can be proven..... I mean if I drink 5 beers I'm drunk but my boyfriend can drink a lot more before he is drunk. It works a bit like this with weed. I'm sure this argument (he was under the influence...) works for a lot of people; hopefully not in court! His lawyers are trying to do their best to defend him...you can't blame them Wink.
But druguse is a bit more common here (but the idea that everyone uses etc. is way out of proportion!) & people know more about it. Hopefully they can show in court that his druguse wasn't a big deal. Just the opposite; I think it loosened him up; he was more open...the pot didn't make him lie / confess at all.....what kind of wonderweed would that be?
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« Reply #811 on: March 24, 2008, 09:24:09 AM »

Good Morning,

Well, it looks like 24ORA was hacked... and by someone from the Kosova Hackers Group in Albania. And it seems this is not the first time. LOLOLOL!!! and there are more threats of more hacking. 

Apparently the Arubans have made enemies all over the world. The comments are all from a bunch of nutballs.

http://www.24ora.com/

and another tourist was hurt in a scooter accident. It doesn't say what the Nationality of the turista is. But, of course the dumbass Arubans are blaming the scooter driver for the accident and saying all kinds of ridiculous stuff. At least the hospital seems open because that's where the tourist was taken.

Also, there was an emergency landing at the Queenie B Aeropuerto. American Airlines had to make a landing and the fire dept and other emergency service were on hand. No crash - thank God.

More hit and runs and the typical weekend drunken driving accidents.

More fires and and the lighting bug is still on the loose.

Typical weekend in the sun - minus the fun!!!!

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« Reply #812 on: March 24, 2008, 09:33:25 AM »

Good Morning,

Well, it looks like 24ORA was hacked... and by someone from the Kosova Hackers Group in Albania. And it seems this is not the first time. LOLOLOL!!! and there are more threats of more hacking. 

Apparently the Arubans have made enemies all over the world. The comments are all from a bunch of nutballs.

http://www.24ora.com/

and another tourist was hurt in a scooter accident. It doesn't say what the Nationality of the turista is. But, of course the dumbass Arubans are blaming the scooter driver for the accident and saying all kinds of ridiculous stuff. At least the hospital seems open because that's where the tourist was taken.

Also, there was an emergency landing at the Queenie B Aeropuerto. American Airlines had to make a landing and the fire dept and other emergency service were on hand. No crash - thank God.

More hit and runs and the typical weekend drunken driving accidents.

More fires and and the lighting bug is still on the loose.

Typical weekend in the sun - minus the fun!!!!


The Chamber of Commerce website was hacked yesterday too...
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« Reply #813 on: March 24, 2008, 09:35:50 AM »

The Chamber of Commerce website was hacked yesterday too...

HI vms, I *wonder* why everyone seems to have it in for poor little Aruba? What did they do to deserve all this unwanted attention???
 

I am lmao over all this - it's just tooooo funny!!!!
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« Reply #814 on: March 24, 2008, 09:43:24 AM »

The Chamber of Commerce website was hacked yesterday too...

HI vms, I *wonder* why everyone seems to have it in for poor little Aruba? What did they do to deserve all this unwanted attention???
 

I am lmao over all this - it's just tooooo funny!!!!

I dunno but seems they were targeted yesterday for sure.
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« Reply #815 on: March 24, 2008, 09:57:16 AM »

The Chamber of Commerce website was hacked yesterday too...

HI vms, I *wonder* why everyone seems to have it in for poor little Aruba? What did they do to deserve all this unwanted attention???
 

I am lmao over all this - it's just tooooo funny!!!!

I dunno but seems they were targeted yesterday for sure.




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« Reply #816 on: March 24, 2008, 10:08:22 AM »

I sound like a broken record -- but, our FBI KNOWS. THEY DO NOT COMMENT ON ANYTHING!  (which is good)
I still think their "inaction" is really a tool to ferret out ALL those involved. It's better for them to not "tip their hand."
I still think it is "odd" that Beth didn't seem bothered that "The Persistence" went home.


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« Reply #817 on: March 24, 2008, 10:56:07 AM »

I sound like a broken record -- but, our FBI KNOWS. THEY DO NOT COMMENT ON ANYTHING!  (which is good)
I still think their "inaction" is really a tool to ferret out ALL those involved. It's better for them to not "tip their hand."
I still think it is "odd" that Beth didn't seem bothered that "The Persistence" went home.


I hope you are right. I really do. 

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« Reply #818 on: March 24, 2008, 10:57:11 AM »

   Wasn't the headmaster of Joran's school transferred to another country shortly after Natalee's disappearance??

   And my BIG question has always been why can't the Air Line be  checked as to how many Sloots returned....one or three???  wasn't it "confirmed" that the two boy were on the plane????  How can air line information disappear???

  And BTW, if it were my kids, when they were in their early teens, they would have been OUTSIDE when numerous cars, police cars amongst them, roared up to our home!

  
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« Reply #819 on: March 24, 2008, 11:10:41 AM »


The 5th person has an alibi...so tight...so tight. Remember?  If Paulus did not have one..then it can not be him...just saying...don't throw things in my direction.  It's your words...not mine.   

Acccckkkkkkkkkkk!!!!....am heading off for the day...so, am tossing this on the fire....The 5th person has an alibi...so tight...so tight...I would even consider...*Anita*....the stories of who went where with her...don't add up...carry on Monkeys Wink


I'm with you on this Destiny! 

Paulus, Anita and the 2 younger bros were all gone -- Paulus flew home that fateful Sunday.....

Then we have Paulus being home all along -- with the 2 younger bros.......the reason why Paulus had to leave the casino......

And where were these young boys when Paulus left his home in the middle of the night for several hours when Beth and Jug arrived?? Where were the younger boys then?? And why wasn't Paulus concerned at all about leaving them alone. He NEVER mentions them.


lala's -- one of the thoughts I've been mulling in recently weeks (although not having any time to post and share and get smarter monkey's thoughts)

Paulus's '2 singing cards' that were 'up his sleeve' and the 'alibi that was so tight'.....
Valentjin and Sebastian 

Also -- imo -- 'party at his home' may not be as 'literal' as we are taking it.

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  Maybe judge Nit Wit, Smid and Ben Vocking was babysitting.  They could make a tight alibi as well.  It is amazing to me why These people were not preparing for school and work.  Also I am inclined to believe Anita was home for the whole show.  Remember the first words out of the liar's mouth, almost is that had his mom had been home none of this would have happened.  He was then laying the groundwork for everyone to know she was in Holland with the tightest alibi.  She could have been gone, but it would seem she would have come home with her children.  I believe Palus was home earlier in the week as was possibly Anita.  It does not make sense otherwise.  They are all liars and Palus would not have stayed at his inlaws home or even his own home and missed out on any girls and gambling, leaving the goon kid home to destroy the island without him.   Jack b
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