Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 - 3/25/08

[hotping]

That car looks more like the one sitting outside Freddy's place than any other photo.  Notice the dark trim on the car as compared to Freddy's.  Just saying...slinking back in corner.

But are any of them a Toyota, is what I would really like to know...LOL

This is from the Dr Phil documents...and of course Freddy was interviewed that same day...

Name: Annie Vicenta Todd
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Ghrizanti Tromp & Dennis Jacobs
Description: witness pointing out an area of interest
 
Name: Annie Vicenta Todd
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Ghrizanti Tromp & Dennis Jacobs
Description: witness statement about a gray Toyota

Mum the top pic in Lala's post reply 435 looks like a Toyota Tercel....My Daughter had one just like it years ago....

Thank You...I think you mean the one at Freddy's house....the one I think could be the 'other car'...Freddy needs to tell the truth! 

Yes He Sure Does! 

[klaasend]

I wonder if Beth/Jug/Dave have considered going after the Aruban media, Amigoe/Bondia (Julia Renfro  ) for making false accusations about them like the McCann's have?   

[Lala'sMom]

As I said...I was just saying. I am never right...alas...heavy sigh.

Lalasmom
please don't think I was critical of you... cause I would never do that. When you "were just saying" I decided to help. 

Of course not...I was just teasing...at least I didn't get my pencils after you. LOL

[Tamikosmom]

HAPPY EASTER MONKEYS


THE OLD TESTAMENT

Isaiah 53 - The Ultimate Sacrifice -Prophecy

1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.

5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.

9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes [c] his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.

11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


THE NEW TESTAMENT

Luke 23: The Ultimate Sacrifice - Prophecy Fulfilled

1-2  Then they all took Jesus to Pilate and began to bring up charges against him. They said, "We found this man undermining our law and order, forbidding taxes to be paid to Caesar, setting himself up as Messiah-King."

3  Pilate asked him, "Is this true that you're 'King of the Jews'?"  "Those are your words, not mine," Jesus replied.

4  Pilate told the high priests and the accompanying crowd, "I find nothing wrong here. He seems harmless enough to me."

5  But they were vehement. "He's stirring up unrest among the people with his teaching, disturbing the peace everywhere, starting in Galilee and now all through Judea. He's a dangerous man, endangering the peace."

6-7  When Pilate heard that, he asked, "So, he's a Galilean?" Realizing that he properly came under Herod's jurisdiction, he passed the buck to Herod, who just happened to be in Jerusalem for a few days.

8-10  Herod was delighted when Jesus showed up. He had wanted for a long time to see him, he'd heard so much about him. He hoped to see him do something spectacular. He peppered him with questions. Jesus didn't answer—not one word. But the high priests and religion scholars were right there, saying their piece, strident and shrill in their accusations.

11-12  Mightily offended, Herod turned on Jesus. His soldiers joined in, taunting and jeering. Then they dressed him up in an elaborate king costume and sent him back to Pilate. That day Herod and Pilate became thick as thieves. Always before they had kept their distance.

13-16  Then Pilate called in the high priests, rulers, and the others and said, "You brought this man to me as a disturber of the peace. I examined him in front of all of you and found there was nothing to your charge. And neither did Herod, for he has sent him back here with a clean bill of health. It's clear that he's done nothing wrong, let alone anything deserving death. I'm going to warn him to watch his step and let him go."

18-20  At that, the crowd went wild: "Kill him! Give us Barabbas!" (Barabbas had been thrown in prison for starting a riot in the city and for murder.) Pilate still wanted to let Jesus go, and so spoke out again.

21  But they kept shouting back, "Crucify! Crucify him!"

22  He tried a third time. "But for what crime? I've found nothing in him deserving death. I'm going to warn him to watch his step and let him go."

23-25  But they kept at it, a shouting mob, demanding that he be crucified. And finally they shouted him down. Pilate caved in and gave them what they wanted. He released the man thrown in prison for rioting and murder, and gave them Jesus to do whatever they wanted.

26-31  As they led him off, they made Simon, a man from Cyrene who happened to be coming in from the countryside, carry the cross behind Jesus. A huge crowd of people followed, along with women weeping and carrying on. At one point Jesus turned to the women and said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, don't cry for me. Cry for yourselves and for your children. The time is coming when they'll say, 'Lucky the women who never conceived! Lucky the wombs that never gave birth! Lucky the breasts that never gave milk!' Then they'll start calling to the mountains, 'Fall down on us!' calling to the hills, 'Cover us up!' If people do these things to a live, green tree, can you imagine what they'll do with deadwood?"

32  Two others, both criminals, were taken along with him for execution.

33  When they got to the place called Skull Hill, they crucified him, along with the criminals, one on his right, the other on his left.

34-35  Jesus prayed, "Father, forgive them; they don't know what they're doing."  Dividing up his clothes, they threw dice for them. The people stood there staring at Jesus, and the ringleaders made faces, taunting, "He saved others. Let's see him save himself! The Messiah of God—ha! The Chosen—ha!"

36-37  The soldiers also came up and poked fun at him, making a game of it. They toasted him with sour wine: "So you're King of the Jews! Save yourself!"

38  Printed over him was a sign: this is the king of the jews.

39  One of the criminals hanging alongside cursed him: "Some Messiah you are! Save yourself! Save us!"

40-41  But the other one made him shut up: "Have you no fear of God? You're getting the same as him. We deserve this, but not him—he did nothing to deserve this."

42  Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you enter your kingdom."

43  He said, "Don't worry, I will. Today you will join me in paradise."

44-46  By now it was noon. The whole earth became dark, the darkness lasting three hours—a total blackout. The Temple curtain split right down the middle. Jesus called loudly, "Father, I place my life in your hands!" Then he breathed his last.

47  When the captain there saw what happened, he honored God: "This man was innocent! A good man, and innocent!"

48-49  All who had come around as spectators to watch the show, when they saw what actually happened, were overcome with grief and headed home. Those who knew Jesus well, along with the women who had followed him from Galilee, stood at a respectful distance and kept vigil.

50-54  There was a man by the name of Joseph, a member of the Jewish High Council, a man of good heart and good character. He had not gone along with the plans and actions of the council. His hometown was the Jewish village of Arimathea. He lived in alert expectation of the kingdom of God. He went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Taking him down, he wrapped him in a linen shroud and placed him in a tomb chiseled into the rock, a tomb never yet used. It was the day before Sabbath, the Sabbath just about to begin.

55-56  The women who had been companions of Jesus from Galilee followed along. They saw the tomb where Jesus' body was placed. Then they went back to prepare burial spices and perfumes. They rested quietly on the Sabbath, as commanded.


THE EASTER STORY - THE GRAVE COULD NOT HOLD HIM

HE IS RISEN - HE IS RISEN INDEED!!

Luke 24: 1-8

1-3  At the crack of dawn on Sunday, the women came to the tomb carrying the burial spices they had prepared. They found the entrance stone rolled back from the tomb, so they walked in. But once inside, they couldn't find the body of the Master Jesus.
 
4-8  They were puzzled, wondering what to make of this. Then, out of nowhere it seemed, two men, light cascading over them, stood there. The women were awestruck and bowed down in worship. The men said, "Why are you looking for the Living One in a cemetery? He is not here, but raised up. Remember how he told you when you were still back in Galilee that he had to be handed over to sinners, be killed on a cross, and in three days rise up?" Then they remembered Jesus' words.

[Miss Scarlet]

HAPPY EASTER MONKEYS


THE OLD TESTAMENT

Isaiah 53 - The Ultimate Sacrifice -Prophecy

1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.

5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.

9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes [c] his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.

11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


THE NEW TESTAMENT

Luke 23: The Ultimate Sacrifice - Prophecy Fulfilled

1-2  Then they all took Jesus to Pilate and began to bring up charges against him. They said, "We found this man undermining our law and order, forbidding taxes to be paid to Caesar, setting himself up as Messiah-King."

3  Pilate asked him, "Is this true that you're 'King of the Jews'?"  "Those are your words, not mine," Jesus replied.

4  Pilate told the high priests and the accompanying crowd, "I find nothing wrong here. He seems harmless enough to me."

5  But they were vehement. "He's stirring up unrest among the people with his teaching, disturbing the peace everywhere, starting in Galilee and now all through Judea. He's a dangerous man, endangering the peace."

6-7  When Pilate heard that, he asked, "So, he's a Galilean?" Realizing that he properly came under Herod's jurisdiction, he passed the buck to Herod, who just happened to be in Jerusalem for a few days.

8-10  Herod was delighted when Jesus showed up. He had wanted for a long time to see him, he'd heard so much about him. He hoped to see him do something spectacular. He peppered him with questions. Jesus didn't answer—not one word. But the high priests and religion scholars were right there, saying their piece, strident and shrill in their accusations.

11-12  Mightily offended, Herod turned on Jesus. His soldiers joined in, taunting and jeering. Then they dressed him up in an elaborate king costume and sent him back to Pilate. That day Herod and Pilate became thick as thieves. Always before they had kept their distance.

13-16  Then Pilate called in the high priests, rulers, and the others and said, "You brought this man to me as a disturber of the peace. I examined him in front of all of you and found there was nothing to your charge. And neither did Herod, for he has sent him back here with a clean bill of health. It's clear that he's done nothing wrong, let alone anything deserving death. I'm going to warn him to watch his step and let him go."

18-20  At that, the crowd went wild: "Kill him! Give us Barabbas!" (Barabbas had been thrown in prison for starting a riot in the city and for murder.) Pilate still wanted to let Jesus go, and so spoke out again.

21  But they kept shouting back, "Crucify! Crucify him!"

22  He tried a third time. "But for what crime? I've found nothing in him deserving death. I'm going to warn him to watch his step and let him go."

23-25  But they kept at it, a shouting mob, demanding that he be crucified. And finally they shouted him down. Pilate caved in and gave them what they wanted. He released the man thrown in prison for rioting and murder, and gave them Jesus to do whatever they wanted.

26-31  As they led him off, they made Simon, a man from Cyrene who happened to be coming in from the countryside, carry the cross behind Jesus. A huge crowd of people followed, along with women weeping and carrying on. At one point Jesus turned to the women and said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, don't cry for me. Cry for yourselves and for your children. The time is coming when they'll say, 'Lucky the women who never conceived! Lucky the wombs that never gave birth! Lucky the breasts that never gave milk!' Then they'll start calling to the mountains, 'Fall down on us!' calling to the hills, 'Cover us up!' If people do these things to a live, green tree, can you imagine what they'll do with deadwood?"

32  Two others, both criminals, were taken along with him for execution.

33  When they got to the place called Skull Hill, they crucified him, along with the criminals, one on his right, the other on his left.

34-35  Jesus prayed, "Father, forgive them; they don't know what they're doing."  Dividing up his clothes, they threw dice for them. The people stood there staring at Jesus, and the ringleaders made faces, taunting, "He saved others. Let's see him save himself! The Messiah of God—ha! The Chosen—ha!"

36-37  The soldiers also came up and poked fun at him, making a game of it. They toasted him with sour wine: "So you're King of the Jews! Save yourself!"

38  Printed over him was a sign: this is the king of the jews.

39  One of the criminals hanging alongside cursed him: "Some Messiah you are! Save yourself! Save us!"

40-41  But the other one made him shut up: "Have you no fear of God? You're getting the same as him. We deserve this, but not him—he did nothing to deserve this."

42  Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you enter your kingdom."

43  He said, "Don't worry, I will. Today you will join me in paradise."

44-46  By now it was noon. The whole earth became dark, the darkness lasting three hours—a total blackout. The Temple curtain split right down the middle. Jesus called loudly, "Father, I place my life in your hands!" Then he breathed his last.

47  When the captain there saw what happened, he honored God: "This man was innocent! A good man, and innocent!"

48-49  All who had come around as spectators to watch the show, when they saw what actually happened, were overcome with grief and headed home. Those who knew Jesus well, along with the women who had followed him from Galilee, stood at a respectful distance and kept vigil.

50-54  There was a man by the name of Joseph, a member of the Jewish High Council, a man of good heart and good character. He had not gone along with the plans and actions of the council. His hometown was the Jewish village of Arimathea. He lived in alert expectation of the kingdom of God. He went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Taking him down, he wrapped him in a linen shroud and placed him in a tomb chiseled into the rock, a tomb never yet used. It was the day before Sabbath, the Sabbath just about to begin.

55-56  The women who had been companions of Jesus from Galilee followed along. They saw the tomb where Jesus' body was placed. Then they went back to prepare burial spices and perfumes. They rested quietly on the Sabbath, as commanded.


THE EASTER STORY - THE GRAVE COULD NOT HOLD HIM

HE IS RISEN - HE IS RISEN INDEED!!

Luke 24: 1-8

1-3  At the crack of dawn on Sunday, the women came to the tomb carrying the burial spices they had prepared. They found the entrance stone rolled back from the tomb, so they walked in. But once inside, they couldn't find the body of the Master Jesus.
 
4-8  They were puzzled, wondering what to make of this. Then, out of nowhere it seemed, two men, light cascading over them, stood there. The women were awestruck and bowed down in worship. The men said, "Why are you looking for the Living One in a cemetery? He is not here, but raised up. Remember how he told you when you were still back in Galilee that he had to be handed over to sinners, be killed on a cross, and in three days rise up?" Then they remembered Jesus' words.

AMEN!  Thank you Janet.  This is the post of the day!  You never who is reading the Natalee thread that needs to read of our Savior's grace.

 

[jackb]

Not the same car in my opinion.

The bottom picture where you cannot see anyone appears to be possibly two vehicles parked very close and side by side.  The driver on this side talking to the driver of the other car.  Cannot be sure at all and that is the way they want it.  The back wheels on the car closest to the viewer (on their far side in back) seems like are setting at a different angle than they should be since the front wheels are showing solid.  The perception is off.
       jackb

[Destiny]

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

Unions: No longer minimum staffing   

Yesterday, a large group of public employees on strike unexpectedly joined the parade in honour of the Day of the Flag and National Anthem.  The protest march went quietly, but a number of bystanders didn’t appreciate the action.

ORANJESTAD – The public employees’ unions are no longer going to stick to their word before the judge last Friday.  They are no longer going to guarantee the minimum staffing of vital government services like police, fire brigade, immigration, and air traffic control.

The deadline for the government to come with a ‘serious’ proposal was moved from Tuesday evening to 09:00 today.  The civil servants were incited to gather in front of Julianaschool at 10:00.  The union was going to tell them how to intensify the actions.  However, the attendance was low at 10:30; about 60 people.   

The government had another proposal on Saturday, in which she indicated for the first time that she wants to talk about indexation.  The proposal included a ministerial disposition of Premier Nelson Oduber, in which a Study Group Legal Position improvement is formally set up.   

This study group must no later than April 8, submit a proposal with ‘the issue of indexation or compensation for cost of living within the financial means of the government’.  The premier’s reason for setting up this study group is that the National Ordinance Material Civil Service Right (LMA) requires this.  In conformity with this law, the improvement of the legal position of the civil service must be done in the Central Committee for organized deliberation.

From the disposition it appears that the government acknowledges the right to strike of the public employees.  She also observes that ‘in this deliberation process, the basic assumptions of the unions and the government are flatly opposed’.   The government furthermore wants to know what the unions think of the legal position improvements, before submitting a definite proposal’.

The unions indicated soon after on Saturday that they won’t accept that proposal either.  A huge protest march was organized yesterday during the parade in the honour of the Day of the Flag and National Anthem.  Some bystanders didn’t appreciate this and were very angry.  “This is disrespectful!  This is our day; how dare they”, said an older woman.  Premier Oduber said that now that the strike has indurate, its consequences are for the union.  He called on everybody that suffers damages as a result of the strike, to take this to court.  According to Tourism-minister Edison Briesen, some airline companies have already indicated that they have suffered damage.  But before he goes public with this, he wants to wait for the report of the Aviation Administration.

According to spokesperson Hendrik Croes of Aruba Airport Authority (AAA), management has decided that in case the air traffic controllers walk out, they will redirect aircrafts with destination Aruba to the airports of Curacao and Bonaire.  “Despite the minimum staffing, the airport is at this moment not troubled by the strikes.  Only problem is that everybody that is present, must work extra hard.”

Other media reported yesterday that the minimum staffing does lead to obvious problems.  Because of that, two aircrafts arrived later than was scheduled.  Croes contradicts that:  “The reason was that yesterday, the airport of Curacao didn’t give clearance for departure when the aircrafts wanted to go.”

Nobody of the government was available this morning for comments on the announcement of the union to no longer guarantee minimum staffing.


 

[jackb]

someone was asking the other day about the gray car spotted in the Aru-Bay tapes. I have tried to find who owns that car for two years, and no real luck - so I am left guessing and the most logical guess would be Ben Voc / King owns that small gray car.

That picture who everyone seemed to think was Joran and a friend or Lorenzo and a friend, was an old picture and most likely Palus and Ben Vocking when they were young and coarousing.  The Sloot-looking one with the middle finger going I do believe was Palus some years ago.  Jackb

Jack - which picture are you referring to here? do you have it to post? TIA

Yes, but Klass posted it here while back.  She has it.  Tell her it is the one where the kid was giving a finger with a friend and the dirty fingered one looks an awful lot like the pvs kids, but not them.  Not Lorenzo either.  I just do not believe it is anyone except Pvs when he was young.   jackb

[private eye]

Hey everyone. Not so many pages of posts but there are certainly some very relevant and interesting posts, with potential significance. I wish I could stay at the computer but unfortunately, time won't permit this week.

Klaas, I would think that Bram's evaluation of the case for Beth might include a review of liability the entities you mentioned might bear.

Janet- Very timely post and an excellent choice showing the foreshadowing of Jesus and then the reasons that we believers believe. I noticed though that in the foreshadowing, "the one" is going to be allowed to see their offspring, which reminds me of the debate whether Jesus had any children, and I assume Mary Magdalene would be the mother. I am really not that familiar with that theory, but am aware of it, and that mention is the first time I have noticed any writing that even suggests that if Jesus is the person mentioned in the prophecy, then it would not be against ALL of the teachings of the Bible for him to have had children. Anyway, it is good to read relevant scriptures in a timely fashion to reinforce the reason for the holiday. AND IT IS REALLY NOT OFF TOPIC BECAUSE IT MAKES DAVE AND BETH'S HEART A LITTLE LIGHTER TO REMIND THEM THAT INDEED LIFE IS EVERLASTING FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND ACCEPT, AND THEIR WORRIES A LITTLE LESS TO KNOW THAT NATALEE IS WITH A GOD WHO KNOWS THE PAIN OF WATCHING A CHILD SUFFER AND THUS GIVES THEM FAITH TO ALLOW AND TRUST HIM TO HEAL THERE PAIN. In addition, Easter is a holiday that Beth and her kids usually celebrated with Beth's Mom, so this is a joyous occasion as they celebrate the fact that Christ arose from the dead but also a very reflective time for Mrs. Reynolds as the silence of Natalee's disappearance can be deafening for the living she left behind. This holiday thus reinforces the belief that there is life after this life, and that while they may miss Natalee, she is where everybody hopes to be one day. It will be a good time to watch the tapes of all of the grandchildren parading around in their Easter clothes, enjoying each other and their family, and even hunting Easter Eggs:)

Kyle- I emailed Beth your concerns and have suggested to her that she contact the appropriate people on the Persistence, including yourself, and attempt to reconcile as best they can the material the crew saw recovered from the cage versus what they received. I specifically mentioned the blue denim and the fact that would be the material of which the skirt was made, and reminded her that the press release said that the material did not match her blouse. I also pointed out that in the December 30 photo there appeared to be a skull and in the January 7, it did not look at all like a skull. But I did think I noticed a second object in one of the zip lock bags that could possibly be the object that resembled a skull, possibly. I am a little amazed that the denim looks remarkably NOT deteriorated. Mostly I was trying to pique her interest to get her to contact the appropriate people. I think Dave worked closely with the owner of the boat, so he may well have already done this. But I know Beth appreciates the heads up, as do I. You are a good man. I did tell her my main concern was that you were concerned, and that I respect and trust your judgment enough for her to investigate this. Thanks.

The grindstone is calling so everybody have a great day and Holiday weekend. Happy Easter:)

[oceanexploration]

Private Eye,

Please email me to discuss this further, not in the forum thanks!

[oceanexploration]

I don't think I said anything about the type of fabric sampled from the trap in the forum.  I'm not sure where this came from.  In any case, PE please email me to discuss. 

[oceanexploration]

would a moderator please send Private Eye my email address?  Thanks in advance.

[klaasend]

would a moderator please send Private Eye my email address?  Thanks in advance.

Sorry, just got back from the store and saw this request.  I'll send PE your email addy.  FYI, the other moderators cannot see email addresses, only Admins can.

[oceanexploration]

would a moderator please send Private Eye my email address?  Thanks in advance.

Sorry, just got back from the store and saw this request.  I'll send PE your email addy.  FYI, the other moderators cannot see email addresses, only Admins can.

Ahh thanks Klaasend.  I appreciate it.  Remember I'm new to this.  I'll keep that in mind.

[Tamikosmom]

HAPPY EASTER TO MY PRECIOUS FAMILY

LOVE NATALEE

+++++++++++++

Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE

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At the top of her closet are some boxes, heavy ones.  I pall them down and open them to find Natalee's composition notebook, which is actually a journal from a high-school English class.  It's in her handwriting.  I have never seen this before.  As I open it, I instantly feel her with me right now at this moment, like a physical presence.  Overwhelmed with this warmth, I take the journal out and sit down on her bed to read what she has written about love and life.

Jesus Christ is the basis of Christianity and is the most influential person in my life.  I believe without Him people would be nothing and have no direction in life.

Love is an emotion that happens naturally when one person feels very strongly for another.  I believe love is controlled by faith and that certain people are made to love each other.  Love is a very complicated emotion.  I think I will know when I will find love, because it will be with someone that I care for and cannot live without.

Family is like a deck of cards.  You never know what kind of card you'll draw.  No one is able to choose their family, but has to accept their own family.  I consider myself lucky because I am really happy with the family that I have.  To me, family is very important and should be a person's top priority.

I am so taken with the depth of her words, her thoughts. And so relieve that her faith was solid.  Just as her Bible troup leaer said, "Natalee knows how to call on God."  Faith has always been a very important part of our lives.

[oceanexploration]

PE - What you are describing isn't entirely accurate and I'm unaware of denim, but am glad to help straighten things out for you.  It's best to go to the original data rather than some poor quality screen shots. 

[caesu]

two little things, maybe already mentioned:

1. joran supposedly is playing online poker again:
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/1237801.html

2. patrick has a new blog posting:
http://patrickvandereem.nl/?p=14

he is talking about the Boca Grande (scar) B.S.

[klaasend]

two little things, maybe already mentioned:

1. joran supposedly is playing online poker again:
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/1237801.html

2. patrick has a new blog posting:
http://patrickvandereem.nl/?p=14

he is talking about the Boca Grande (scar) B.S.

Thanks caesu - I saw the online poker thing but not Patrick's update!

[Tamikosmom]

Beth

I agree that Natalee definition of a hero is describing many people who have stood beside her anguished family for almost three frustrating years in the quest for the justice she has been denied  as well as other who have join the cause along the way but ... your daughter is also describing her mother.  Beth ... through your foundation, your book and your presence in the media ... you have selflessly risen above you pain and ... reached out to the well-being of others in so many ways.

I stand in awe.

Happy Easter

Janet

+++++++++++++


Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE

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As I read on in the journal, I discover that one of the most moving entries is her desription of a hero.  Natalee writes:

A Hero is someone who puts others before himself.  He or she is very selfless and cares about the well-being of others.  Heroes also accept life's challenges and remain strong through tough times.  They also have a strong sense of determination and stick to goals and morals.  I believe that heroes uphold morals and try to encourage others to live life morally correct.  Heroes are not only just people called in times of physical danger, but individuals that can both emotionally and physically help people get through rough times.  A hero should always show respect for other people as well as respect for himself.

Instantly I realize that Natalee is poignantly describing the people who have reached out to help her family get through this "tough time."  It's almost as if she is thanking everyone herself by recognizing the importance of selfless people.  And I am amazed at her profound words here.  I sit and read the entire journal ...

[hotping]

two little things, maybe already mentioned:

1. joran supposedly is playing online poker again:
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/1237801.html

2. patrick has a new blog posting:
http://patrickvandereem.nl/?p=14

he is talking about the Boca Grande (scar) B.S.

Caesue could You tell Us what this says its under the poker site comments

Annette_15 speelt "live" ook goed won volgens mij afgelopen jaar de EPT in Copenhagen of Duplin of zo. +500.000 pleuris, maar kwa uiterlijk is het geen hollowaytje

Thanks in Advance!