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Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wait! There is an arm in that pic that appears to be wearing a watch...could that be what we are looking for?
GVC could be the blond behind Patrick (on left?). I thought maybe the pics had come from the same function and someone had changed the filter on the camera making the same dress look pink and then blue....
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Quote from: Buckeye on April 04, 2008, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wait! There is an arm in that pic that appears to be wearing a watch...could that be what we are looking for?
GVC could be the blond behind Patrick (on left?). I thought maybe the pics had come from the same function and someone had changed the filter on the camera making the same dress look pink and then blue....
Well, that seems to be a Soul Beach tag around her neck in the blue...so I am wondering. I wish I could do a side by side of the two pics to compare. I am not good at that either.
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Found this one of my folders. This would seem to be after Condi was made Sec of State. Previously she was Foreign Policy Adviser and I doubt would have met with Oduber. I wonder if this was from the meeting in Florida?
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From the SM link of Kermit's info:
Boset, Patrick",delta@setarnet.aw
Diamonds International Aruba"
,"L.G. Smith Blvd. #17","Oranjestad, - AW","011 297 880443","
http://www.0-0.com/txt_s/cn_aruba.htm
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 03:01:52 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on April 04, 2008, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wait! There is an arm in that pic that appears to be wearing a watch...could that be what we are looking for?
GVC could be the blond behind Patrick (on left?). I thought maybe the pics had come from the same function and someone had changed the filter on the camera making the same dress look pink and then blue....
Well, that seems to be a Soul Beach tag around her neck in the blue...so I am wondering. I wish I could do a side by side of the two pics to compare. I am not good at that either.
looks to me as if they are standing right in front of Moomba and part of the event that was held on Palm Beach.
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I'll grab the pics and side by side them ladies.
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wait! There is an arm in that pic that appears to be wearing a watch...could that be what we are looking for?
That's who Jackb thinks is G VC fighting with someone?
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http://www.tundruk.com/index.php?pg=partners
Arlene Ellis-Schipper
Arlene Ellis-Schipper has studied hotel management at the ‘Hogere Hotel School’ in Maastricht in the Netherlands for two years from 1990 until 1992. During this time she also completed a marketing course and was offered a position as a marketing coordinator and customer service manager in Aruba for a large jewelry store (Colombian Emeralds) in the Caribbean. She has worked in this position from 1992 until 1995 in which period she obtained extensive experience in management, motivation of personnel, customer service and marketing.
Arlene started studying law at the University of Aruba in 1994 and completed her studies in 1999. During this time she worked for a local television station from 1995 until 1996, presenting different kind of local television programs, as well as international shop station programs. This work allowed her to develop public speaking and public relations skills.
Arlene started to practice law as a junior assistant to the Prosecutor (parket secretaris) from 1997 until 1999. After obtaining her degree in law Arlene worked as a senior assistant to the Chief Prosecutor from 1999 until 2001.
In 2001, after having been admitted to the Aruban Bar Association, she has been working as an attorney-at-law in Aruba before becoming partner and managing director of Tundruk Consulting N.V.
Practice areas (1999- 2005):
• Civil law and civil litigation law (in first instance, summary/injunction proceedings, as well as in appeal procedures);
• Commercial law (ie. labor/ purchase/ lease/ distribution/agency and franchise);
• Labor law;
• International private law;
• Prejudgment seizures and executory attachments (including related declaration and validation Court proceedings);
• Corporate and business law;
• Mergers and acquisition;
• Real estate and construction related advices and interferences.
• Criminal law;
• Administrative law.
I haven't found much on Guido Wever, our little croupier. Guido is the son of Frohved Wever and he is reported to be a cousin of Arlene Ellis-Schipper on his mother's side. Her name is supposedly Pauline von Raalte. Frohved is the brother of Seff Weber who I think is connected to the crematorium. The Wever and Sloot families are very close.Guido left Aruba right away and has been in the Netherlands. There was a relationship with John Chemaly, Jr. and after seeing JACs MySpace page, I am confident in agreeing with the rumors about the orientation of both of them. There are reported to be many photographs of them together, although there is a pretty big age gap. Guido is supposed to be an outstanding tennis player. In his 6/16/05 statement to the police, Deepak said that Guido drove a white Nissan. I did find one rumor that says Frohved Wever is actually Robert Wever of the Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement.
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Quote from: Rob on April 04, 2008, 03:04:48 PM
I'll grab the pics and side by side them ladies.
Thanks!
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Posted by Pita at same link but scroll to almost bottom:
ABC TODAY
Business address
SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company
MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 14 MAY 2002
Main branch: MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V. registered under number 28973
located at CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST
NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN
;
Residing in PARADERA 35, PARADERA, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 14 MAY
2002
Authority FULL
RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE
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Residing in
SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966
Nationality AMERICAN
Position PROXY A W/T
"ASST. MANAGER"
Effective 27 JUNE 2007
Authority FULL
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Is Steve Croes related to Hendrick Croes? I am so confused on this...I should hang around a bit more at night.
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Quote from: Rob on April 04, 2008, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 03:01:52 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on April 04, 2008, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wait! There is an arm in that pic that appears to be wearing a watch...could that be what we are looking for?
GVC could be the blond behind Patrick (on left?). I thought maybe the pics had come from the same function and someone had changed the filter on the camera making the same dress look pink and then blue....
Well, that seems to be a Soul Beach tag around her neck in the blue...so I am wondering. I wish I could do a side by side of the two pics to compare. I am not good at that either.
looks to me as if they are standing right in front of Moomba and part of the event that was held on Palm Beach.
Yep, and Kermit has them labeled
Soul Beach 2005
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Quote from: Blonde on April 04, 2008, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wait! There is an arm in that pic that appears to be wearing a watch...could that be what we are looking for?
That's who Jackb thinks is G VC fighting with someone?
But all I see is that arm...is there a wider view that includes that person and others?
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 03:11:39 PM
Is Steve Croes related to Hendrick Croes? I am so confused on this...I should hang around a bit more at night.
I would need some proof of this one. His house, living with grandma....nothing looks like he is from a prominent family....
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Quote from: Buckeye on April 04, 2008, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 03:11:39 PM
Is Steve Croes related to Hendrick Croes? I am so confused on this...I should hang around a bit more at night.
I would need some proof of this one. His house, living with grandma....nothing looks like he is from a prominent family....
I totally agree...no one in Hendrick's family would be treated this way...he is certainly being shunned if that is the case.
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I believe he's referring to Patrick Boset (Renfro's husband/friend or whatever) ...
Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 - 9/30/2007
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UNKNOWN MALE AND GVC
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Quote from: Buckeye on April 04, 2008, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2008, 03:11:39 PM
Is Steve Croes related to Hendrick Croes? I am so confused on this...I should hang around a bit more at night.
I would need some proof of this one. His house, living with grandma....nothing looks like he is from a prominent family....
Rudy Croes lives in a 900,ooo florin house... maybe they don't share? LOL
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Had to go to wayback machine to get originals and they are loading too slow for me. Some info on the bands (was Caps looking for that?).
http://web.archive.org/web/20051027064441/http://guiafashion.com/fashion/internacional/27to29-05-05soulbeach/index.htm
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OK, it looks like there are two Guido Wevers .
Guido Wever, son of the Health Minister, is currently a student of dental surgery in the Netherlands. From the stuff that I looked at, this guy is fair and thin, not dumpy and dark like the Guido pictures that we have.
I have a question. How old is Guido? According to what I am reading a croupier must be 21 years old. Guido wasn't 21 was he? So, is the Guido Wever who was a croupier the same Guido Wever who was Joran's buddy in the pictures that we have? Or, is the Guido dental student now in the Netherlands the Guido who worked as a croupier and probably not a close friend of Joran?
Does this make sense?
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