SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[sharon]

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/news_releases.htm


good places to look here...at the right side of page.
Best to check out anything 'Cocaine' too. I just looked a bit into the Heroine link...didn't find anything interesting.

Anywhoooo...DEA is a place to start.

Thanks nut!

I've been following your links to see if I can find anything,too. So far nothing.

I'm checking local (Miami) news as wll -- the Miami offices of the FBI and DEA also 'handle' the Caribbean.

So far nothing -- but I don't know how 'timely' these things get posted

[Rob]

I recall a person from Aruba listed on the "who's a rat?" website as an informant from Aruba that was busted and was working as a DEA / FBI informant.

http://whosarat.com/

it's now a pay only site... and I'm not buying a membership to that one too. LOL

But maybe someone remembers that listing also.

[MumInOhio]

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....

Caps....It has been posted that Joran was seen by the cinemas.

Could you tell us which Steak house he was at? The beach one or the downtown one?  TIA

Hi Sharon...been checking since yesterday...no luck either!

[Rob]

I recall a person from Aruba listed on the "who's a rat?" website as an informant from Aruba that was busted and was working as a DEA / FBI informant.

http://whosarat.com/

it's now a pay only site... and I'm not buying a membership to that one too. LOL

But maybe someone remembers that listing also.

maybe last name is Diaz, but not totally sure. I know I made a post about it a good while back when I found it initially. Can some use the search tool here and see if that post still exists?

I can't seem to get the search option to fully function for me.

[COLOMBO]

the loot = (VIRGINIA)

IT fit perfectly.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA

If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found.

the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot

[MumInOhio]

I recall a person from Aruba listed on the "who's a rat?" website as an informant from Aruba that was busted and was working as a DEA / FBI informant.

http://whosarat.com/

it's now a pay only site... and I'm not buying a membership to that one too. LOL

But maybe someone remembers that listing also.

Morning Rob…I wonder if that is Mr X…the FBI protected witness in J’s book?

[COLOMBO]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.

[Rob]

I recall a person from Aruba listed on the "who's a rat?" website as an informant from Aruba that was busted and was working as a DEA / FBI informant.

http://whosarat.com/

it's now a pay only site... and I'm not buying a membership to that one too. LOL

But maybe someone remembers that listing also.

Morning Rob…I wonder if that is Mr X…the FBI protected witness in J’s book?

Morning Mummy 

Good thinking!!

[Rob]

is there a deceased or accused "G" Lampe from yesterday?

[Rob]

the loot = (VIRGINIA)

IT fit perfectly.

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA

If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found.

the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot

Collins ave in Florida was at one time a yellow brick road. Not sure if it today, but it was a while back.

Collins and Hollywood intersect if I recall correctly and leads to Brickell ave... again all IIRC..

Good Morning Colombo

[Buckeye]

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....

Caps....It has been posted that Joran was seen by the cinemas.

Could you tell us which Steak house he was at? The beach one or the downtown one?  TIA

Hi Sharon...been checking since yesterday...no luck either!

Mum

I don't have the Caps' translator, but I think he was saying the Van der Sloots were there, but not Joran.

[Lala'sMom]

So are we still waiting to find out if the arrested person is the original Daury that Joran fingered as the boat guy or do we have any idea yet?  Caps indicated it was THE Daury that was part of the confession. 

And Mum, I too, would like to know about the steakhouse story.  I may have this wrong but is seems that Caps is saying Joran was not there but Paulus was.  I know I must not understand that sentence...just need clarification.

[MumInOhio]

You do not understand, Exposing Joran in publick is for two reason,
1. Money.
2. A bluff
3. to reach a point in Holland, that we can declare Joran unfit and crazy ---> leading to the story of Mental Health treatment.

BTW Vander sloot  stink physicaly and He and Anita and his sons but not Joran was Eating at this steak house. He was in the company of a bigwig from the Mariotte....

Caps....It has been posted that Joran was seen by the cinemas.

Could you tell us which Steak house he was at? The beach one or the downtown one?  TIA

Hi Sharon...been checking since yesterday...no luck either!

Mum

I don't have the Caps' translator, but I think he was saying the Van der Sloots were there, but not Joran.

Hi  Buckeye...Hmmm...I asked him that yesterday...May be Zeolla...Thanks

Been looking at the de Veer guy downtown...where is JE?...Vice-Consul to Denmark!

[MumInOhio]

Morning Lala's...posting for reference from Pita...I don't think it has anything to do with what Rob posted...???

« Reply #238 on: October 04, 2007, 02:35:16 PM » 

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This article confirms Eric Williams worked for the DEA.

Case law involving DEA agent Eric Williams....

snipped....

In 1993, federal and state law enforcement agencies began an operation in South Florida called "Hard Rock." The purpose of the operation was to alleviate inner city drug trafficking. While acting in an undercover capacity, Special Drug Enforcement Agency ("DEA") Agent Eric Williams ("Williams") met Diaz and two confidential informants ("CI #1") and ("CI #2"), at Bavarian Auto Parts in Miami to discuss the purchase of three ounces of crack cocaine. Agent Williams overheard Diaz tell CI #1 that the crack cocaine would arrive shortly. When Agent Williams asked CI #1 why Diaz had rushed them to the location when the cocaine was not ready, Diaz replied "What he [CI #1] is not telling you, man, is that I had it, I had it . . . since last week, and you all are late." (1SR1:19). Agent Williams then observed Quiles leaving the scene after speaking with Diaz. Diaz told Agent Williams that Quiles had gone to get the cocaine.......

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=964405opn
 

[Rob]

Morning Lala's...posting for reference from Pita...I don't think it has anything to do with what Rob posted...???

« Reply #238 on: October 04, 2007, 02:35:16 PM » 

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This article confirms Eric Williams worked for the DEA.

Case law involving DEA agent Eric Williams....

snipped....

In 1993, federal and state law enforcement agencies began an operation in South Florida called "Hard Rock." The purpose of the operation was to alleviate inner city drug trafficking. While acting in an undercover capacity, Special Drug Enforcement Agency ("DEA") Agent Eric Williams ("Williams") met Diaz and two confidential informants ("CI #1") and ("CI #2"), at Bavarian Auto Parts in Miami to discuss the purchase of three ounces of crack cocaine. Agent Williams overheard Diaz tell CI #1 that the crack cocaine would arrive shortly. When Agent Williams asked CI #1 why Diaz had rushed them to the location when the cocaine was not ready, Diaz replied "What he [CI #1] is not telling you, man, is that I had it, I had it . . . since last week, and you all are late." (1SR1:19). Agent Williams then observed Quiles leaving the scene after speaking with Diaz. Diaz told Agent Williams that Quiles had gone to get the cocaine.......

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=964405opn
 

This is it. Thanks Mum... that's the Diaz that was on the "who's the rat" site. Doubtful he has anything to do with Natalee's case....I was kinda just thinking out loud...

thanks again

[Rob]

Morning Lala's...posting for reference from Pita...I don't think it has anything to do with what Rob posted...???

« Reply #238 on: October 04, 2007, 02:35:16 PM » 

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This article confirms Eric Williams worked for the DEA.

Case law involving DEA agent Eric Williams....

snipped....

In 1993, federal and state law enforcement agencies began an operation in South Florida called "Hard Rock." The purpose of the operation was to alleviate inner city drug trafficking. While acting in an undercover capacity, Special Drug Enforcement Agency ("DEA") Agent Eric Williams ("Williams") met Diaz and two confidential informants ("CI #1") and ("CI #2"), at Bavarian Auto Parts in Miami to discuss the purchase of three ounces of crack cocaine. Agent Williams overheard Diaz tell CI #1 that the crack cocaine would arrive shortly. When Agent Williams asked CI #1 why Diaz had rushed them to the location when the cocaine was not ready, Diaz replied "What he [CI #1] is not telling you, man, is that I had it, I had it . . . since last week, and you all are late." (1SR1:19). Agent Williams then observed Quiles leaving the scene after speaking with Diaz. Diaz told Agent Williams that Quiles had gone to get the cocaine.......

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=964405opn
 

This is it. Thanks Mum... that's the Diaz that was on the "who's the rat" site. Doubtful he has anything to do with Natalee's case....I was kinda just thinking out loud...

thanks again

wait, maybe it doesn't... I'm not sure at all...I'm confused.

IIRC, and I'm not sure I do, the person was a former drug dealer working with the DEA and FBI  . . . but I can't remember it all.

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks Mum.  I was over reading and missed the point I guess. I am bad to scan and then go back and still not get the point of a post.  I am not sure about the Joran at steakhouse reference, though.  If Joran was not there...I am not sure where "there" is either...does that mean that both Paulus and Anita were there?  Oh heck!  Maybe I should just forget it...I really do not understand that post at all...there I admit it...I can't understand Capspeak. LOL

[Lala'sMom]

Rob
You are not talking about Daury are you? You are talking about another person.  I knew I was confused again...slinking off to the corner.

[MumInOhio]

Thanks Mum.  I was over reading and missed the point I guess. I am bad to scan and then go back and still not get the point of a post.  I am not sure about the Joran at steakhouse reference, though.  If Joran was not there...I am not sure where "there" is either...does that mean that both Paulus and Anita were there?  Oh heck!  Maybe I should just forget it...I really do not understand that post at all...there I admit it...I can't understand Capspeak. LOL

I am not sure if he meant Paulus, Paulus and Anita, or Joran.

Remember Melody's post about the theaters?

I want to know where J2K and Paulus was from 10PM to 12.30AM that night!

Caps, please help us out on the Steak House!...TIA

Rob...Not sure...It was a long time ago...1993 for that Diaz!

[Lala'sMom]

Mum do you mean these?


from RWV #123 Natalee Holloway Chat

i saw him that saturday that's why, that was the 29th, but it's the 30th right? ...
i was just sitting around and remembered that :$ and i asked which casino because where
i saw him is very close to a casino, but the Seaport casino.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:17 AM

i know for sure i saw him that saturday, i can swear upon it, i had a party to go to on
28th and next day i went to the movies where i saw him. i'm really sorry , i don't remember
the time, but it was before 12am for sure.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:24 AM
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but Dan i SWEAR i saw him , he was standing alone leaning against a pilar.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:26 AM
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man i'm confused i saw him the next day, the day after the party, and i know it was
the 28th (the party)

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:27 AM
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wait no... thank goodness for being as big of a girly girl as i am Daisy Smile ... i wrote down
the party and the movies because the movies was the first time me and my curent boyfriend
kissed :$ ... so i know for sure now.. i saw him the 29th! and before 12am. ... sorry guys,
don't get mad at me for being wrong ta first...

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:33 AM
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sorry :S ... it was on a saturday.. so you guys tell me which date then :$

and rock pier??? where's that?? is that the one next to the phoenix hotel??

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:38 AM
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Dan - i know my seeing him has no impact whatsoever. it was the first time i haven;t said
hi to him at all because of his face _expression and me being with someone else.... so i;m
sorry for not helping with any facts. but i asked for personal reasons :$ ... and no i
really don't have feelings for him anymore...

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:51 AM
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nonono annie... i didn't see him at the casino ... you see the casino is very VERY near,
like turning the corner on that shop and crossing the road... i saw him standing against a
pillar alone... but i didn't say hi to him since when he saw me his face turned into a
''hurt'' face, i thought it might be me walking with my now-boyfriend ... but that happened
Downtown... near carlos and charlies? yes... 3 min away by car maybe? i've walked it in
about 10 ??

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:00 AM