SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[MumInOhio]

everyone that comes to live in aruba habe to register to continue living in Aruba. If you come on vacation yu will not be part of the database.

Then you will not find his mother listed, if she lives in Curacao. Correct?

VMS:
Correct but steve is an adult and left curacao to come and live here in Aruba. How long has he been living in Aruba.

if he came as a minor less then 18, his Mother and father would have to resgister them self for him to get register. and the names will be here.

now he married in Aruba, now the gei should have some info on him...his roots.

was hendrick croes the lawyer ever working in Curacao?

This is Steve's lawyer, I believe. thanks vms

Mr. Eline Lotter-Homan.

[vms]

everyone that comes to live in aruba habe to register to continue living in Aruba. If you come on vacation yu will not be part of the database.

Then you will not find his mother listed, if she lives in Curacao. Correct?

VMS:
Correct but steve is an adult and left curacao to come and live here in Aruba. How long has he been living in Aruba.

if he came as a minor less then 18, his Mother and father would have to resgister them self for him to get register. and the names will be here.

now he married in Aruba, now the gei should have some info on him...his roots.

was hendrick croes the lawyer ever working in Curacao?

I don't know how long he has lived there and I'm not sure that he ever married Jeanet Gei.

JMO, but if he was related to Rudy's family, someone would have revealed that information when he was arrested. I mean I don't think everyone on Aruba is a Rudy fan. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

What about researching 'Statia'....the name is hyphenated....just thinking of maternal surname possibility.

[MumInOhio]

One of the band members of Blue Orchid, which was providing music and entertainment aboard the Rhapsody when Amy Bradley went missing, was nicknamed "Yellow." The fourth person to be named as a suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is a Disc Jockey for music entertainment aboard a "party barge" which operates from Aruba, a man named Croes, who was previously involved with a band named "Yellowjacket".

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=73463

Sirensong…Thanks...Found this after I read the link that you posted…I can’t copy, but the Spirits caught my eye…

More Words Ancient and Modern - Google Books Result
by Ernest Weekley - 1971 - Language Arts & Disciplines 1700) explains " nap the wiper " by " steal the handkerchief. ... spirits or kidnappers ; people that would kidnap or spirit away children in England ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=rqi2sfoufJYC&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=spirits+kidnappers+england+1700s&source=web&ots=RWY81RW9mQ&sig=JtM98E81eDLjb0Vi83M6lu354eI&hl=en

OOPS!!!....LOL...tinyurl????

[Pita]

Zandboer and PVDS attended the same college Tilburg, where PVDS brother is a professor also. 

Nothing on AHATA website....except pictures hmmmm


Calling it a night, Monday morning's not far away!

Found this...It appears to be a part of AHATA....Was this guy even in Aruba May of 2005?



 http://www.meetaruba.com/aruba_convention_services.asp


Meet Aruba is the official group marketing division of the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association (AHATA) and, as such, works closely with all hotels and DMC companies in Aruba
 

So Meet Aruba is NOT separate or competing..they are almost one and the same as far their goals?  Interesting. 

At the AHATA General Assembly
New Chairman Alfonso Riveroll makes an excellent speech
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005

The Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino hosted the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association General Assembly last week. On the assembly’s agenda: the election of the new board with Chairman Alfonso Riveroll at the helm.

Riveroll, the owner of the Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino was visibly excited to assume the leadership of Aruba’s most important association

He’s honored and privileged he explained, to accept the role of Chairman of the Board of the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association. As a board member for the past years, and after serving as first vice chair this year he is well aware, he stated, of the responsibilities and challenges the position entails.

“Let me assure all of you who have placed your trust in me, that I am committed to making a major difference for AHATA and thus for the people of Aruba,” he declared.

A love Affair with Aruba

Riveroll first came to Aruba in 1955, and he’s had a love affair with the island since then, citing the warmth and friendliness of the people here, as the foundation of the island’s success.

Public & Private Sector Partnership

The new chairman of AHATA stated he believed in open doors, and in seeking alliances, thus promoting work in partnership with the members of the association, the business community and the government.

He will encourage, he declared, close ties with the Trade and Industry Association, the Chamber of Commerce, the Retailers and the Gastronomic Association, and he would solicit opinions, support and cooperation in making tourism the greatest contributor to the well-being of Aruba as a community.

Message to the Aruba Tourism Authority

When addressing his colleagues at the Aruba Tourism Authority and other important public sector agencies, Riveroll said that it was time for new thinking and new ways of looking at their respective roles. He asked the public sector to become a facilitator, an enabler, and a cheerleader for the private sector.

Public sector agencies, he reiterated should attempt to control less, and be more concerned with results.

Global trends are clear, he explained, as less public sector bureaucracy yields more public & private sector partnerships, which are the keys to economic success.

Just like the private sector, Riveroll advised, government should also be modeled after enterprise, becoming flexible, entrepreneurial and most of all accountable.

Accountability, Riveroll stressed, must be the guiding light as Aruba moves forward.

Meet Aruba should become a partnership

Praising the recent creation of Meet Aruba, an effective Group Marketing and Sales Organization, Riveroll lamented that valuable time was wasted in trying to establish the ground rules for a partnership with the Aruba Tourism Authority, the government agency.

“In our industry,” Riveroll warned, “wasting time is like handing market share to our competitors. It is something that we simply cannot afford to do.”

Meet Aruba also formed an alliance with the Netherlands Board of Tourism and Conventions, and really put Aruba on the map in the Meetings and Convention market, in just three months, Riverol informed.

It is his hope; he added that the Aruba Tourism Authority, seeing the quick, success and professional results of Meet Aruba, would rejoin the organization, as originally intended.  With private sector contributions, both financial and intellectual reflected in the board of governance, Meet Aruba could and would continue to grow, Riveroll indicated.

Team with Common Purpose

At the end of his presentation, Riveroll reflected a bit on the most unprecedented level of media attention, Aruba has received in the past six month, most of it negative.

“Our image,” he said, “has certainly been tarnished and AHATA has been at the forefront with ATA, ATIA, Government, Chamber of Commerce and local business leaders, teaming up with a common purpose, to preserve the island’s image and minimize the impact of the Holloway disappearance. We have fared well, but we need to face such challenges with bold and fast actions,” he stated.

He pointed out that despite having differences, all entities managed to develop a great rapport, a fact he deemed invaluable to future collaborations, and while he was committed to making a difference and to working with everyone who wanted to move mountains, he called for modification of outdated structures and old ways of thinking.

He concluded his well-received address with compliments to AHATA CEO, Jorge Pesquera his fine team and the AHATA board.

Aruba he predicted will remain the most successful destination in the Caribbean. And while the job as Chairman of the AHATA board is a voluntary one, Riverol expects it to become the most fulfilling job of his life.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_12_04_archive.html

[Pita]

VMS:

Who is the Lawyer of Steve Croes

Looking quickly, I think it was Eleni Lotter-Homan.

That's correct.  Eleni also represented Geoffrey van Cromvoirt.

[MumInOhio]

VMS:

Who is the Lawyer of Steve Croes

Looking quickly, I think it was Eleni Lotter-Homan.

That's correct.  Eleni also represented Geoffrey van Cromvoirt.

Thanks Pita. I hope we don't confuse Caps, but maybe we owe him!

[Pita]

VMS:

Who is the Lawyer of Steve Croes

Looking quickly, I think it was Eleni Lotter-Homan.

That's correct.  Eleni also represented Geoffrey van Cromvoirt.

Thanks Pita. I hope we don't confuse Caps, but maybe we owe him!

 

[Buckeye]

To add to confusion....I don't remember this lawyer....but since we are looking for names...: from RWV

C's family, who are also not allowed to visit him.  Do not understand why he is being detained. "Steve would never murder anyone ", says Jeanet Gei who is his ex-girlfriend and mother of his son,  the 3-year-old Steve junior.

He would easily start crying just after he'd stepped on a lizard''  Even
the attorneys of C. do not know what is going on. "We have not seen any documents yet'', said Berry Weijers, Saterdag.  ,, We only know what our client told us yesterday''  What C. told him, he did not want to disclose. Head officer of justice Karin Janssen will decide today if the detention of C. will be prolonged with 8 days.

Monday, June 20, 2005 at 05:45 PM in Natalee Holloway | Permalink

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/aruba_round_up.html

[Buckeye]

I never saw a "formal" announcement, but I remember reading this post on FOB:

On 1-16 “Freedom of Blog” Identity “MF” reported:

<QUOTE>

The Prosecutor m. Lugo* will now handle the case as of yesterday. She was the person that should have been handling the case. M. Janssen left the island after a formal complaint was brought forward against her at the prosecutor's office.

<END QUOTE>

http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline2007_01.html

[MumInOhio]

I never saw a "formal" announcement, but I remember reading this post on FOB:

On 1-16 “Freedom of Blog” Identity “MF” reported:

<QUOTE>

The Prosecutor m. Lugo* will now handle the case as of yesterday. She was the person that should have been handling the case. M. Janssen left the island after a formal complaint was brought forward against her at the prosecutor's office.

<END QUOTE>

http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline2007_01.html

Thanks Buckeye for both posts...I do remember Lugo now, not the lawyer though.

[Buckeye]

Lugo was the Prosecutor at the Kalpoes search in May 2007 (Diario 5/14/07):

Dutch authorities, along with those of Aruba were present at the Kalpoe family home in Hooiberg, where they searched the house Saturday morning before the sun came up. At the arrival of the authorities along with prosecutor mr. Elvia Lugo they surrounded the house and then knocked at the door.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=26

[MumInOhio]

Lugo was the Prosecutor at the Kalpoes search in May 2007 (Diario 5/14/07):

Dutch authorities, along with those of Aruba were present at the Kalpoe family home in Hooiberg, where they searched the house Saturday morning before the sun came up. At the arrival of the authorities along with prosecutor mr. Elvia Lugo they surrounded the house and then knocked at the door.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=26

Thanks again Buckeye...Tamikosmom said she could not recall anything on Moss until November of 2007.

[Blonde]

Caps
You said last night that the 5th suspect is Rudy Croes' son....which one?  I want to see who it is and how you came to that conclusion...Please don't just throw that info out there and leave it...otherwise no one will even take it seriously.  Please fill in the blanks.

Shango point me to it and it is here were I left last night.

under reasech. I got allready the PM

BTW the PM son look like a doupple ganger of one of the kalpoes...look at the picture and compare....the one in the black that works in the watersport bussiness andis president of the Windsurf.

Caps it was rummored a few years ago the one of his son's raped the maid.
Has anyone ever heard of this?

[Rob]

Caps
You said last night that the 5th suspect is Rudy Croes' son....which one?  I want to see who it is and how you came to that conclusion...Please don't just throw that info out there and leave it...otherwise no one will even take it seriously.  Please fill in the blanks.

Shango point me to it and it is here were I left last night.

under reasech. I got allready the PM

BTW the PM son look like a doupple ganger of one of the kalpoes...look at the picture and compare....the one in the black that works in the watersport bussiness andis president of the Windsurf.

Caps it was rummored a few years ago the one of his son's raped the maid.
Has anyone ever heard of this?

Hi Blonde, Yes! I have because I'm the one that found that info and the source that gave it to me. It's true sister - oh sooo true!

[Blonde]

LOL ROB we must have been in the same place, that this was talked about.

I have done hours of work looking for answers on this.

[COLOMBO]

there was a prty but the party was a Casino Party, Big Shots, Big Weel,

The part goe-ers are not the kids but BUT the BIG GUNS...at the palace

How can you pinch big guns if it they are shielded from RC.

there is a way...but after we solve this.

The 5th suspect was at his house....Simian says so...it was a small party...AT HIS HOUSE.

I give up!!   

how could he have left? he wasn't there-there was no simple party at his house.....the partygoers need to be pinched-for perjury

[COLOMBO]

DirtyHand was not a child of Babylon

Was he a child of Arawak Nation!!!???

[klaasend]

[Rob]

LOL ROB we must have been in the same place, that this was talked about.

I have done hours of work looking for answers on this.

We probably know the same person that knew this to be true LOL!!!

here's the little leg humper here