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« Reply #1960 on: April 15, 2008, 02:00:05 AM »

Personally I think Mr.Pink plays a role in all of this..

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I noticed another Escort service that advertises in Arubatoday called arubasexy.com
They started the Web Site on 6-30-05.I wonder if they took over Pink's business?
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1961 on: April 15, 2008, 02:04:10 AM »

Now the request for the forbidden fruit came from an Escort Service.

The Escort Service has a link to the News. Now I need to know all the Escort services that go trough The NEWS and and there are sevaral. It operate where the Texas Aqua Search where residing when in Aruba and they know about it exisitng. Now to find which one,

Guido uses this escord service and he goes trough the News to enter this escort service.(Name?)

Does Julia have or must have an escort service in 2005.

This is important. It will show that Natalee was setup.



Caps,
One of Natalee's roommates Madison Whatley reported to the FBI that they had received two weird messages on their phone at the hotel.  The calls were from a woman that said "Rosemary" (another girl on the trip) was scheduled for a massage off of the hotel property.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1962 on: April 15, 2008, 04:02:25 AM »

let me put it this way,

That night there were request from clients for forbidden fruits. This escort service had to provide the request and Guido Wever know this escort service that can provide this type of girl. Dompig know about this service and so all the HOTELS GM's

Now a week before, Natalee has discover the secret of this escort service. Now it seems that some other girl has used the service. This Escort uses the Brickel Hotel for the movies and in the case of Natalee, there was another plan at work. they went to another place.

Now this place is where the garderners work.

Question where did the garderner work and for who?

Now for the maze and the rave

the maze is the location
there ware diffrent maze keys and I have the answer soon the escort name is solved.


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« Reply #1963 on: April 15, 2008, 06:46:00 AM »

Steve Garrido Croes ???? son of Lawyer

Caps, is this a law firm?


STICHTING DERDENGELDEN CROES WEVER TCHONG 
 
Business address SEROE PITA 22, PARADERA 
Legal form  FOUNDATION 
Name of the STICHTING DERDENGELDEN CROES WEVER TCHONG 
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of 20 DECEMBER 2006 
incorporation/commencement:
     
   
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS 
 
CROES, HENDRIK SEFERINO
Residing in  SEROE PITA 22, PARADERA, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 8 JANUARY 1942 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PRESIDENT 
Effective  20 DECEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   
WEVER, RUDOLF MARCOLINO
Residing in  SPAANS LAGOENWEG 21, SAVANETA, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 24 JANUARY 1943 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  SECRETARY 
Effective  20 DECEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   
TCHONG, PETRUS JOANNES
Residing in  BYRONSTRAAT 13, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 26 DECEMBER 1944 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  TREASURER 
Effective  20 DECEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   




Pita…here is the link…Mr Wever is no longer with us! IIRC he was the most senior lawyer in Aruba.

http://www.lawyersaruba.com/







At the risk of giving Lala’s a major headache, and being written up big time…it has crossed my mind that Geoffrey Wever may have been the ‘G’ from Amsterdam working in the casino for the summer. IIRC University of Amsterdam is where our Ms Akers did her Master’s…

Geoffrey B. Wever

http://www.lawyersaruba.com/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=21

Hendrick…Leiden University…shades of Mirian…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiden_University   

Leiden University (Dutch: Universiteit Leiden), located in the city of Leiden, is the oldest university in the Netherlands.[1] It is a member of the Coimbra Group, the Europaeum and the League of European Research Universities. The university was founded in 1575 by Prince William of Orange, leader of the Dutch Revolt in the Eighty Years' War. The royal House of Orange and Leiden University still have a close relationship.
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« Reply #1964 on: April 15, 2008, 07:18:59 AM »

Now the request for the forbidden fruit came from an Escort Service.

The Escort Service has a link to the News. Now I need to know all the Escort services that go trough The NEWS and and there are sevaral. It operate where the Texas Aqua Search where residing when in Aruba and they know about it exisitng. Now to find which one,

Guido uses this escord service and he goes trough the News to enter this escort service.(Name?)

Does Julia have or must have an escort service in 2005.

This is important. It will show that Natalee was setup.



Caps,
One of Natalee's roommates Madison Whatley reported to the FBI that they had received two weird messages on their phone at the hotel.  The calls were from a woman that said "Rosemary" (another girl on the trip) was scheduled for a massage off of the hotel property.

X-otic Massage and Escort Service   aka ArubaSexy

http://www.arubasexy.com/XoticHomePage.htm
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« Reply #1965 on: April 15, 2008, 07:41:34 AM »

First page where the gardener was discussed, last time. Warning…it covers many pages!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.460


Believe after all the discussion the general consensus was Luis Mansur.

Here is the link to Ramos statements.

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/ramos.htm

From Dr. Phil docs…something a little off with the dates compared to above???

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/civil_court_docs/arubancounselfile.htm

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date:22 July 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly/Luigi Croes
Description: witness statement by a gardener

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 26 July 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Shapiro Kelly
Description: witness statement

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 11 August 2005
Pages: 1 (6 attachments of boat crew list) Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 16 August 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Caps….you are not talking about Lorenzo’s gardeners, are you…LOL
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« Reply #1966 on: April 15, 2008, 07:44:01 AM »

Caps...is this the Evert you mentioned re the Tropical Cafe?...TIA

Name: Evert Gerars (Moomba Beach Manager)
Date: 16 July 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator. Luigi Croes Zoraida De Cuba
Description: witness statement by a Moomba Beach manager

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« Reply #1967 on: April 15, 2008, 08:13:35 AM »

Caps...is this the Evert you mentioned re the Tropical Cafe?...TIA

Name: Evert Gerars (Moomba Beach Manager)
Date: 16 July 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator. Luigi Croes Zoraida De Cuba
Description: witness statement by a Moomba Beach manager



Yes,
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« Reply #1968 on: April 15, 2008, 08:17:36 AM »

First page where the gardener was discussed, last time. Warning…it covers many pages!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.460


Believe after all the discussion the general consensus was Luis Mansur.

Here is the link to Ramos statements.

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/ramos.htm

From Dr. Phil docs…something a little off with the dates compared to above???

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/civil_court_docs/arubancounselfile.htm

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date:22 July 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly/Luigi Croes
Description: witness statement by a gardener

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 26 July 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Shapiro Kelly
Description: witness statement

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 11 August 2005
Pages: 1 (6 attachments of boat crew list) Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 16 August 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Caps….you are not talking about Lorenzo’s gardeners, are you…LOL


Dompig knew the gardeners : who are the gardeners and where to they work. the place.?
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« Reply #1969 on: April 15, 2008, 08:17:46 AM »

Caps...is this the Evert you mentioned re the Tropical Cafe?...TIA

Name: Evert Gerars (Moomba Beach Manager)
Date: 16 July 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator. Luigi Croes Zoraida De Cuba
Description: witness statement by a Moomba Beach manager



Yes,


Thanks...was this his golden handshake...or is this another 'coincidence?

Can't seem to get away from both Marriotts though...supposed to be independant except for the name? Marriott-beach...Metacorp and de Veer the Renaissance!
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« Reply #1970 on: April 15, 2008, 08:22:29 AM »

Why would Mr. Pink be the only escort service in Aruba?  I don't think he had a monopoly on it...then again maybe he did.  Would some of the casinos that service the high rollers with the money to pay not have more than one service they utilized there?  Maybe not.

Thinking this out brings me back to the reporter/producer's suicide...again for the "umpteenth" time.  Hey, Simian, I picked that up from you, my dear.

You have my attention!...You have a theory, can you share?  TIA
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« Reply #1971 on: April 15, 2008, 08:28:29 AM »

Caps...is this the Evert you mentioned re the Tropical Cafe?...TIA

Name: Evert Gerars (Moomba Beach Manager)
Date: 16 July 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator. Luigi Croes Zoraida De Cuba
Description: witness statement by a Moomba Beach manager



Yes,


Thanks...was this his golden handshake...or is this another 'coincidence?

Can't seem to get away from both Marriotts though...supposed to be independant except for the name? Marriott-beach...Metacorp and de Veer the Renaissance!
somehow these Dutch have enough money to run these business / bars / cafe's /etc/ , or like a said they must have done something or know something that them well off in an instant.
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« Reply #1972 on: April 15, 2008, 08:32:01 AM »

First page where the gardener was discussed, last time. Warning…it covers many pages!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.460


Believe after all the discussion the general consensus was Luis Mansur.

Here is the link to Ramos statements.

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/ramos.htm

From Dr. Phil docs…something a little off with the dates compared to above???

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/civil_court_docs/arubancounselfile.htm

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date:22 July 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly/Luigi Croes
Description: witness statement by a gardener

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 26 July 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Shapiro Kelly
Description: witness statement

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 11 August 2005
Pages: 1 (6 attachments of boat crew list) Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs/ Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Name: Carlos Penata Ramos
Date: 16 August 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Eric Soemers
Description: witness statement

Caps….you are not talking about Lorenzo’s gardeners, are you…LOL


Dompig knew the gardeners : who are the gardeners and where to they work. the place.?


Caps...if you mean Carlos Ramos, he worked for Eric Mansur...sorry got them mixed up!

If you mean Lorenzo's gardeners...they were I believe Columbians he called gardeners and used as guards or so we have been told!
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« Reply #1973 on: April 15, 2008, 08:44:07 AM »

Caps...is this the Evert you mentioned re the Tropical Cafe?...TIA

Name: Evert Gerars (Moomba Beach Manager)
Date: 16 July 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator. Luigi Croes Zoraida De Cuba
Description: witness statement by a Moomba Beach manager



Yes,


Thanks...was this his golden handshake...or is this another 'coincidence?

Can't seem to get away from both Marriotts though...supposed to be independant except for the name? Marriott-beach...Metacorp and de Veer the Renaissance!
somehow these Dutch have enough money to run these business / bars / cafe's /etc/ , or like a said they must have done something or know something that them well off in an instant.

What did the Kalpoe stepdad do to land the Internet Cafe? Any ideas?  TIA
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« Reply #1974 on: April 15, 2008, 08:46:25 AM »

Maybe if we made a list your string may become a noose!
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« Reply #1975 on: April 15, 2008, 09:09:41 AM »

Now the request for the forbidden fruit came from an Escort Service.

The Escort Service has a link to the News. Now I need to know all the Escort services that go trough The NEWS and and there are sevaral. It operate where the Texas Aqua Search where residing when in Aruba and they know about it exisitng. Now to find which one,

Guido uses this escord service and he goes trough the News to enter this escort service.(Name?)

Does Julia have or must have an escort service in 2005.

This is important. It will show that Natalee was setup.



Caps,
One of Natalee's roommates Madison Whatley reported to the FBI that they had received two weird messages on their phone at the hotel.  The calls were from a woman that said "Rosemary" (another girl on the trip) was scheduled for a massage off of the hotel property.

Also  they saw a arm ,someone tried to open the door

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« Reply #1976 on: April 15, 2008, 09:19:41 AM »

Now the request for the forbidden fruit came from an Escort Service.

The Escort Service has a link to the News. Now I need to know all the Escort services that go trough The NEWS and and there are sevaral. It operate where the Texas Aqua Search where residing when in Aruba and they know about it exisitng. Now to find which one,

Guido uses this escord service and he goes trough the News to enter this escort service.(Name?)

Does Julia have or must have an escort service in 2005.

This is important. It will show that Natalee was setup.



Caps,
One of Natalee's roommates Madison Whatley reported to the FBI that they had received two weird messages on their phone at the hotel.  The calls were from a woman that said "Rosemary" (another girl on the trip) was scheduled for a massage off of the hotel property.

Also  they saw a arm ,someone tried to open the door




Good Morning Blonde...Dark uniforms...IIRC the Soul beach security wore black uniforms, I wonder where they were hired from?

Just an FYI...One of the 'bones' was found right before Kalpoes and Freddy were arrested in August!  What were the new charges against the brothers again?
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« Reply #1977 on: April 15, 2008, 09:43:41 AM »

Good Morning MumInOhio

The Kalpoe brothers were re-arrested on August 26
along with another new suspect.[13] Freddy Arambatzis (21), according to his lawyer, was suspected of taking photographs of and having physical contact with an underage girl, an incident with allegedly occurred prior to the Holloway disappearance and in which Arambatzis's friends Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were supposedly involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway
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« Reply #1978 on: April 15, 2008, 09:44:44 AM »

Now the request for the forbidden fruit came from an Escort Service.

The Escort Service has a link to the News. Now I need to know all the Escort services that go trough The NEWS and and there are sevaral. It operate where the Texas Aqua Search where residing when in Aruba and they know about it exisitng. Now to find which one,

Guido uses this escord service and he goes trough the News to enter this escort service.(Name?)

Does Julia have or must have an escort service in 2005.

This is important. It will show that Natalee was setup.



Caps,
One of Natalee's roommates Madison Whatley reported to the FBI that they had received two weird messages on their phone at the hotel.  The calls were from a woman that said "Rosemary" (another girl on the trip) was scheduled for a massage off of the hotel property.

X-otic Massage and Escort Service   aka ArubaSexy

http://www.arubasexy.com/XoticHomePage.htm

Pita do yu know who owns the X-otic ?
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« Reply #1979 on: April 15, 2008, 09:53:37 AM »

Personally I think Mr.Pink plays a role in all of this..

-------------------------------
I noticed another Escort service that advertises in Arubatoday called arubasexy.com
They started the Web Site on 6-30-05.I wonder if they took over Pink's business?
Registrant:  jeje.margarita@gmail.com
 Aruba Sexy
 Jukuri 66
 Santa Cruz, -- 29000
 AW

 Domain name: ARUBASEXY.COM

 Administrative Contact:
    Mardenborough, Clarens
    Jukuri 66
    Santa Cruz, -- 29000
    AW
    568-0822    Fax: 000-000-0000

 Technical Contact:
    Mardenborough, Clarens
    Jukuri 66
    Santa Cruz, -- 29000
    AW
    568-0822    Fax: 000-000-0000

http://whois.domaintools.com/arubasexy.com

Caps...I am not sure if this is the same place that ******* posted or not?
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